redmen4life
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Mean Gene post=431276 said:
Do we know, or are we assuming that LSU was ever on GW's list?
Landing Spots for SJU Transfers
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Do we know, or are we assuming that LSU was ever on GW's list?
I think it shows a few thing relative to what you said:
1)Mike did a great job squeezing a lot out of the roster last year because....
2)The overall roster talent still is not at a level where they need to be to compete consistently for an NCAA bid and
3)This is related to number 1. CMA deserved COY of the year but as it turns out the 10 league wins was not as impressive as I would have thought at the beginning of the year. Because if you had told me they are winning 10 games in the league I would have stated point blank they are an NCAA team. The fact that both they and SHU won 10 league games and neither sniffed an NCAA bid along with Xavier, Marquette, Providence etc being major disappointments the league just was not that good last year.
So it is easier to understand how with a lot of mediocre talent on the roster they were able to win 10 games last year in the BE it is mostly because the league itself was not very good.
Enright post=431275
Based on the programs the SJU players are transferring to or considering It looks like the posters who felt that the players transferring from SJU did not have big east talent were correct and hopefully the players transferring in will raise the level of play. It would also be nice if the one who does have big east talent , Williams , decides to stay unless Anderson can bring it a player with equal or better talent to replace him .
1)Mike did a great job squeezing a lot out of the roster last year because....
2)The overall roster talent still is not at a level where they need to be to compete consistently for an NCAA bid and
3)This is related to number 1. CMA deserved COY of the year but as it turns out the 10 league wins was not as impressive as I would have thought at the beginning of the year. Because if you had told me they are winning 10 games in the league I would have stated point blank they are an NCAA team. The fact that both they and SHU won 10 league games and neither sniffed an NCAA bid along with Xavier, Marquette, Providence etc being major disappointments the league just was not that good last year.
So it is easier to understand how with a lot of mediocre talent on the roster they were able to win 10 games last year in the BE it is mostly because the league itself was not very good.
Enright post=431275
Based on the programs the SJU players are transferring to or considering It looks like the posters who felt that the players transferring from SJU did not have big east talent were correct and hopefully the players transferring in will raise the level of play. It would also be nice if the one who does have big east talent , Williams , decides to stay unless Anderson can bring it a player with equal or better talent to replace him .
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fordham96 post=431277 said:
In fairness you were underestimating most of these kids while they were at sju.
MarkRedman
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SJU14 post=431270 said:
So Dunn is a transfer down to where he can run the show. Sounds like Marcellus is a transfer down to somewhere he can be a perimeter shooter. Greg W is an unknown, and I think may well be a boomerang.
Any news on landing spots for Cole, Moore, McGriff, Roberts?
Any news on landing spots for Cole, Moore, McGriff, Roberts?
I explained that in the post prior. A little bit of both. On the surface perhaps I underestimated them, but when you look back at how good the competition was this year in the BE perhaps not so much.
Amaseinyourface post=431281
In fairness you were underestimating most of these kids while they were at sju.
Amaseinyourface post=431281
In fairness you were underestimating most of these kids while they were at sju.
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boo haarvey
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I think some of you are spending too much time analyzing these kids individually. A team is the sum of its parts. By all accounts, these kids fit together well. Had they chosen to return, they would have brought familiarity with the system and invaluable experience as seniors.
We may well upgrade the individual talent, but that is no assurance of success. I liked our team a lot and felt we were a piece or two away from being really successful. Now we are largely rebuilding.
Many programs are in the same boat as us given the transfer rule, but it’s not ideal. The timing is particularly unfortunate when you consider that we were coming off a promising season with most of the kids slated to return.
We may well upgrade the individual talent, but that is no assurance of success. I liked our team a lot and felt we were a piece or two away from being really successful. Now we are largely rebuilding.
Many programs are in the same boat as us given the transfer rule, but it’s not ideal. The timing is particularly unfortunate when you consider that we were coming off a promising season with most of the kids slated to return.
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MakingPlays
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I don't believe this to be true. Last year was an anomaly in the fact that teams/conferences that were able to play all or most their games had a better shot of making the tournament than teams/conferences that got affected by covid shutdowns and didn't get to play as many games. St. John's was literally the only team in the Big East to not to have a covid shutdown and even we didn't get a chance to play all our games. One of the biggest games on our schedule, was not made up against UConn, you add that game to the schedule and get a win (it was a home game and a Q2 game) and they probably make the tournament.fordham96 post=431280 said:
You look at the Big 10 conference, most of their of the teams played all of their games, and that's why they got so many teams in the tournament. The main factor in making the tournament is having a good NET and the best way to have a good NET is to play games, and play quality games. If you have teams in your league that didn't get to play non-conference games and had several conference games cancelled then their is limited chances to improve your NET, because you're playing teams with bad NETs because they aren't playing games, so you don't get as many teams in the tournament. Xavier, St. John's, and Seton Hall all on normal years would have made the tournament, those teams were all tournament quality. Big East should have been a six bid league this year.
I think the players in question would all have contributed to a successful season. However, most if not all were at or near their ceiling and would be gone after next year. Just speculation on my part, but I think CMA understands the trajectory that a program must be on and doesn’t have an NCAA “appearance” on his bucket list. I think he wants to make noise when he gets there and sees that as the key to future recruiting success. As a result, I don’t think he was going to guarantee PT and/or a position to anyone but a star.fordham96 post=431277 said:
Can't wait for this free agency plus to run its course and see who is on our team when all is said and done. Bottom line is Earlington way overachieved virtually everyone's expectations and has given us some great moments. Hope he winds up with the Bonnies where he could make an excellent team better, but wish him the best wherever he lands. Greg was a borderline 3/4 star recruit out of high school and has played up tp expectations when healthy. I hope he comes back but am confident he will make whatever team he winds up with happy to have him.
JUCOs are always a bit of a crapshoot and for different reasons ours didn't work out as planned.
Onwards and upwards.
JUCOs are always a bit of a crapshoot and for different reasons ours didn't work out as planned.
Onwards and upwards.
Dunn to Robert Morris U
Robert Morris Lands St. John's Transfer Guard Rasheem Dunn | Pittsburgh Sports Now
Robert Morris Lands St. John's Transfer Guard Rasheem Dunn | Pittsburgh Sports Now
