Kyle Anderson PG (UCLA)
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Contrary to what the PC machine says, generalizations can generally be made about many things. Generally it's colder in New York than Florida, generally men are taller than women, and generally D-I athletes do not academically belong at the schools they ended up in. You want to make a case that the ND football or basketball players belong there academically? It's an uphill battle for you. No one should speak in absolutes, but generalizations can be made. I'll wager my money on Shabazz Muhammed not being a 4.0 student in high school quite comfortably. They should be paid as athletes representing a school, not student-athletes. Do you realize some students play for teams like UCLA, Florida, UNC (all top notch academic schools) who can barely speak coherently?
Everyone else's original issue with me was my brashness and non-PC demeanor. Since then though, I think many have come to realize that I'm not the antichrist and actually gained maybe a morsel of respect since then. I try to make the board better by posting any new info I get my hands on, and starting interesting conversations or at least I'd hope they seem interesting. I think there has also been age bias but that was more early on right when I joined and I can't say it has happened lately as more members got used to me and realized I was not as bad as they thought. SI has only been on a personal crusade against me since that SI comment and ever since he has been boiling.
Not everyone is a good public speaking and even the most intelligent don't always sound smart. Using text messages, twitter and even e-mail is not necessarily a good indicator as everything there is abbreviations, acronyms , slang and incomplete sentences. Yes there are student athletes barely getting buy but there are non athletes having the same problems. There are also some one and domes who are fine students. And there also some students at institutions because of a legacies and who shouldn't be there. So overall what is your point?
That's a textbook PC response. Some people are good at some things, some are good at others! Legacies mattered a lot more in the old days...they will not get you in a place alone however. If you are a great football player, you can have an IQ of 85 and get into Florida or ND. The same can't be said for legacy applicants. My point is that players should be paid for being athletes, and the student name should be dropped. You don't put a silk blanket over a pig and call it a horse do you? I never said there weren't guys who actually are good students like Gift...I think he's a fantastic role model and really values education. That is the exception rather than the rule however. If you looked into Florida, Notre Dame, Boston College, UNC, Wake Forest, etc. do you think their football/basketball players really had 3.7-4.0 GPA's like everyone else? Some of these guys can BARELY even get through high school yet they end up at schools honor's students and top SAT scorers dream about. It's ok to admit the truth...it really doesn't make you wicked I promise.
Spare me the that is textbook PC garbage. You tend to throw that out as a defense when you go o ff on your social diatribes and someone disagrees or calls you on it. Are there some athletes who don't belong in college or don't take it seriously? Sure, this isn't anything new. But there are many who do even if they are not even if they struggle in the classroom.
If your point was athletes should be paid, then you should have said so from the start as that has nothing to do with what a persons grades are.
As far as the truth goes, just because someone believes something is true, it doesn't necessarily make it so.
Hell, if ur gunna pick sum1's tweets apart, ur wastin ur time.
That is not the place to judge whether someone has command of the English language. I don't know KA's level of intelligence but to label him dumb because of a tweet---where the number of characters you can use is limited to 140---is silly. Besides, a great number of posters on these boards---graduates of our esteemed alma mater---commit some serious grammatical errors. I'm not sure you can judge their intelligence either. This isn't the proper forum for that.
That is not the place to judge whether someone has command of the English language. I don't know KA's level of intelligence but to label him dumb because of a tweet---where the number of characters you can use is limited to 140---is silly. Besides, a great number of posters on these boards---graduates of our esteemed alma mater---commit some serious grammatical errors. I'm not sure you can judge their intelligence either. This isn't the proper forum for that.
Would love to see droves of examples of Miami football players who had 4.0's in high school, Florida State football players who had 4.0's in high school, Stanford football players who had 4.0's and near perfect SAT scores in high school, etc. If they are so numerous, surely you would have statistics or some evidence to back it up?
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...ly-reducing-gpa-requirements-student-athletes
That story above is what you are defending in essence? I know it's a HS example, but it's exactly the same type of thing that goes on at schools like UCLA, Stanford, Florida, etc. which otherwise require students from the top 5 or 10% of their graduating class to be admitted. In the link above, some high school player had a 1.0 GPA and was able to play! Going to some schools that are way over your head academically can seriously affect self-confidence and lead to worse grades than you would have gotten at a less selective school. I know if I somehow got into Harvard or Yale, I'd probably feel like crap around the next Engineers, CEO's, and Presidents. Playing sports in college should be a privilege, not a right. You want to play football for Stanford? Fine, get a 3.8-4.0 and you can. That's how it should be honestly. I know you are going to say this is some rare anecdote, but my freshman year in college there were 3-4 athletes who literally did nothing but play basketball video games in the common room. They skipped class, tried paying real students to do their work, and I even witnessed our basketball coach personally going to one of their rooms to chew them out about how they weren't going to class because professors complained. Some professors even live in fear in the bigger schools where speaking up against athletes not going to class or not performing is a cardinal sin.
