Keeping Up With Old Friends Thread

[RedStormNC]

The coach does decide who gets how much. The collective raises money and then lets the coach know the "total" amount available,
. The coach then decides how to allocate the funds.

Thank you Panther.

Did not know that. Outside of the merits of the athletes getting or not, The whole NIL process is bizarre from my perspective.

 

[paultzman]

Thank you Panther.

Did not know that. Outside of the merits of the athletes getting or not, The whole NIL process is bizarre from my perspective.

I miss the simplicity of the good old days

 

[Redenbacher]

Thank you Panther.

Did not know that. Outside of the merits of the athletes getting or not, The whole NIL process is bizarre from my perspective.

You are not alone, RedStormNC.

 

[L J S A]

I'm still curious if a coach wants a player commanding $X, and whomever at collective doesn't agree that player is worth $X, but technically can support...do they just tell the coach it's a no-go, or only willing to offer "$Y". If so, whoever is leading the collective has a lot of power in decision making...and more the reason I'd rather the coach have that purchase power directly, vs. collective leader.

The coach does decide who gets how much. The collective raises money and then lets the coach know the "total" amount available,
. The coach then decides how to allocate the funds.

I know people think NIL is going to ruin the sport, but the leader of a collective getting into a power grab/pissing contest with the head coach would be infinitely worse. Luckily I don't think that happens here with Pitino at the helm, but we'll see it soon enough at big Southern football schools I'm sure.

 

[L J S A]

I miss the simplicity of the good old daysView attachment 1657

I think I see BR monogrammed on that bag.

 

[Beasts of the East]

I'm still curious if a coach wants a player commanding $X, and whomever at collective doesn't agree that player is worth $X, but technically can support...do they just tell the coach it's a no-go, or only willing to offer "$Y". If so, whoever is leading the collective has a lot of power in decision making...and more the reason I'd rather the coach have that purchase power directly, vs. collective leader.

The collectives work with Matt and coach. The process is rather complex, with collectives and university working hand in hand.

The big risk is that collectives are commiting to paying plsyers with $ that may not be fully funded, and the player us paid over the course of the contract.

Almost for certain some collectives will default on their commitments if they do not raise enough funds.

I'm less concerned about collectives taking too much of the pie because the margins in basketball are too narrow and the big money comes from smart wealthier businessman. As one person told me, "you think a smart supporter is going to spend $100k and let us take $20k of that".

All in all i see nil collectives as a bad business proposition for non football schools. It's too much work to raise a few million bucks, the overhead for events , legal fees, and marketing too high, and too little left at the end of the day.

Football schools that raise $30-$40 million in nil is a different story.

 

[IDRAFT]

The collectives work with Matt and coach. The process is rather complex, with collectives and university working hand in hand.

The big risk is that collectives are commiting to paying plsyers with $ that may not be fully funded, and the player us paid over the course of the contract.

Almost for certain some collectives will default on their commitments if they do not raise enough funds.

I'm less concerned about collectives taking too much of the pie because the margins in basketball are too narrow and the big money comes from smart wealthier businessman. As one person told me, "you think a smart supporter is going to spend $100k and let us take $20k of that".

All in all i see nil collectives as a bad business proposition for non football schools. It's too much work to raise a few million bucks, the overhead for events , legal fees, and marketing too high, and too little left at the end of the day.

Football schools that raise $30-$40 million in nil is a different story.

One hundred per cent agree. It seems inevitable for many reasons that at some point football and non football schools will have to totally split from one another.

 

[MugCostanza]

Curbelo playing for Southern Miss tonight

 

[Andrew]

Curbelo playing for Southern Miss tonight

Game is on ESPN +

 

[RedStormNC]

Game is on ESPN +

Halftime....4 pts, 3 assists off the bench

 

[Section9]

Curbelo playing for Southern Miss tonight

Break out the popcorn!

 

[mjmaherjr]

I'm guess Beast can back it up but he can't reveal how he heard.

Beast is right and you won’t hear any exact numbers from current players because of NDAs

 

[paultzman]

 

[mjmaherjr]

The coach does decide who gets how much. The collective raises money and then lets the coach know the "total" amount available,
. The coach then decides how to allocate the funds.

Exactly ! Almost like a salary cap you gotta allocate resources

 

[mjmaherjr]

 

[RedStormNC]

Finished 11 pt, 6 reb, 6 asst, 2 stl, 4 turnover

 

[guinness77]

I miss the simplicity of the good old daysView attachment 1657

Where’s Ricky Roe’s tractor?

 

[mjmaherjr]

Finished 11 pt, 6 reb, 6 asst, 2 stl, 4 turnover

1-2 turnover ratio. Kinda like the redfan guys at happy hour with beers

 

[Beasts of the East]

As much as I trash his crazy behaviors and how staff didn't reign him in, I think he is a really good player. I also think that apart from the antics, off the court is a really nice, well spoken kid. People wonder if the concussion(s) have altered his behavior.

I'll admit I am a pushover. Rysheed Jordan, described aptly by some as a bad guy, is someone I root for to pull it all together.

I think most of us are like that.

 

[paultzman]

Portugal