Kansas St., Sat., Dec. 7, 11:30am, FOX

This game will determine how the rest our season will go. I know it’s early and it’s one game. But, we absolutely cannot lose this game at home. Especially, with the aftermath of the Bahamas trip, the Smith situation and the lackluster performance against Harvard. This game will tell us what we are in store for the remainder of the year.
 
K state despite their poor start have a ton of talent which coach alluded to. I think they are a classic example of team that plays their best basketball late in the season. They have a lot new pieces and haven’t fit them together just yet. This has the chance to be another Q2 game, cannot lose this one for many reasons.
 
For all you going to the game, this is the “Black Out” game where the team will be unveiling their new alternate black uniforms and all fans are encouraged to wear black.

We now have another reason to wear black in honor of Coach Carnesecca 😥.

I look forward to a moment of silence and then a rousing standing ovation in his honor that can be heard in heaven.
 
Why is Coach's passing something that has touched all of us in such a poignant manner?

Last year while at a small NIL dinner that Storm Marketing hosted, Rick Pitino attended and as we were finishing dinner, spoke to the group from his seat.

When he finished, I spoke. I told him that I believed this job may end up being the most rewarding stop of his career. As example I spoke of the relationship between Coach C and fans. Back then I sat in a large group of 30+ friends and frat brothers behind the st john's bench when it was on the other side of the court. Chris Mullin's parents and family sat above us in the cushioned seats. We would often kibbutz Looie, yelling advice to him, "Looie, press!! Looie, put in ______! Looie, call time out!" Mostly he ignored us, but on occasion would whirl around, wave his hand dismissively and say "You guys don't know what you are talking about", then spin back and resume coaching.

I told Rick we did those things because Looie was always one of us. An alum, a New Yorker through and through. We won with him and lost with him and he knew thousands of us, and millions felt they knew him.

I told Rick, as a guy who lived on the East side (like Looie) , in Queens (like Looie) and Long Island (like many of us) he was also one of us. If he can win big here, and restore this program, this may just be his best achievement of all.


I have an Italian aunt who is also 99, who grew up on the East side in the same neighborhood, and may have been a classmate in first grade (she doesn't recall the name 90+ years later). My grandfather, like Lou's father, owned a small grocery story also on the east side. Familiar.


So many users here posted interactions with Coach over the years. The common thread is they were treated warmly, like an old friend or family.

Genuine. Authentic. Fatherly. Ours.

Goodbye to an old friend. Pray for us Lou.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Why is Coach's passing something that has touched all of us in such a poignant manner?

Last year while at a small NIL dinner that Storm Marketing hosted, Rick Pitino attended and as we were finishing dinner, spoke to the group from his seat.

When he finished, I spoke. I told him that I believed this job may end up being the most rewarding stop of his career. As example I spoke of the relationship between Coach C and fans. Back then I sat in a large group of 30+ friends and frat brothers behind the st john's bench when it was on the other side of the court. Chris Mullin's parents and family sat above us in the cushioned seats. We would often kibbutz Looie, yelling advice to him, "Looie, press!! Looie, put in ______! Looie, call time out!" Mostly he ignored us, but on occasion would whirl around, wave his hand dismissively and say "You guys don't know what you are talking about", then spin back and resume coaching.

I told Rick we did those things because Looie was always one of us. An alum, a New Yorker through and through. We won with him and lost with him and he knew thousands of us, and millions felt they knew him.

I told Rick, as a guy who lived on the East side (like Looie) , in Queens (like Looie) and Long Island (like many of us) he was also one of us. If he can win big here, and restore this program, this may just be his best achievement of all.


I have an Italian aunt who is also 99, who grew up on the East side in the same neighborhood, and may have been a classmate in first grade (she doesn't recall the name 90+ years later). My grandfather, like Lou's father, owned a small grocery story also on the east side. Familiar.


So many users here posted interactions with Coach over the years. The common thread is they were treated warmly, like an old friend or family.

Genuine. Authentic. Fatherly. Ours.

Goodbye to an old friend. Pray for us Lou.
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Well said.
 
To everyone coming to the game...

This is obviously a big game before what happened over the weekend, and now it has even more meaning. The 11:30 start time is annoying sure, but given everything that has transpired I'd safely assume there will be plenty of tributes and videos and moments of silence scheduled prior to tip off, I'd bet starting around 11 or 11:15.

Carnesecca Arena is a big advantage for St. John's historically. Yes we normally play lower level opponents in the building thus the 80+% win rate, but it means even more Saturday. We have to make it a house of horrors for Kansas State. They are a very good three point shooting team, and yes they stumbled to LSU and Liberty, but they can shoot it. Fans need to be loud, in the game and make this the advantage it needs to be.

Big East vs Big 12 battle, this week is huge for the conference...we can't afford a slip up. Having a week to prepare for this game is great, they have a lot of individual talent. But I hope the fans are in it.

Rick Pitino said on WFAN yesterday that "we (coaches/player) are the caretakers of Lou's legacy" and I think the fans can make their mark with those sentiments by giving the home team the proper advantage in their own gym.

I can't wait to be in the building, to honor Lou and watch St. John's win. I hope to see everyone there.

Do it for Lou.
 

SJUDave said:
To everyone coming to the game...

This is obviously a big game before what happened over the weekend, and now it has even more meaning. The 11:30 start time is annoying sure, but given everything that has transpired I'd safely assume there will be plenty of tributes and videos and moments of silence scheduled prior to tip off, I'd bet starting around 11 or 11:15.

Carnesecca Arena is a big advantage for St. John's historically. Yes we normally play lower level opponents in the building thus the 80+% win rate, but it means even more Saturday. We have to make it a house of horrors for Kansas State. They are a very good three point shooting team, and yes they stumbled to LSU and Liberty, but they can shoot it. Fans need to be loud, in the game and make this the advantage it needs to be.

Big East vs Big 12 battle, this week is huge for the conference...we can't afford a slip up. Having a week to prepare for this game is great, they have a lot of individual talent. But I hope the fans are in it.

Rick Pitino said on WFAN yesterday that "we (coaches/player) are the caretakers of Lou's legacy" and I think the fans can make their mark with those sentiments by giving the home team the proper advantage in their own gym.

I can't wait to be in the building, to honor Lou and watch St. John's win. I hope to see everyone there.

Do it for Lou.
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Nice sentiment but those “win one for the Gipper” games can go terribly wrong. Hope they have nice pre game ceremony for Coach, then team needs to win any way it can because a loss would be crushing for tournament hopes.
 
Don't think it's pressure. It's the natural desire to perform for something bigger than yourself in situations like this when it comes to sports. Listen this team doesn't need extra motivation, we know that. The staff will have them amped up. Rick is no doubt comparing the Kansas State Wildcats to the 96 Bulls.

Go win.
 
I can't wait for this game since I think it'll clarify a lot of the bad taste in our mouth after the Georgia game.

Was the Georgia game a product of three games in four days/scheduling naivety on our side, and we are the "for real" team a lot of us think? Or, is this going to be another tough season?
 
SJUDave said:
Don't think it's pressure. It's the natural desire to perform for something bigger than yourself in situations like this when it comes to sports. Listen this team doesn't need extra motivation, we know that. The staff will have them amped up. Rick is no doubt comparing the Kansas State Wildcats to the 96 Bulls.

Go win.
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For me the Lou stuff is separate, they just need to win for tournament purposes. I know it is a romantic idea but they have enough to worry about without putting that on them
 
Larry Wright said:
Nice sentiment but those “win one for the Gipper” games can go terribly wrong. Hope they have nice pre game ceremony for Coach, then team needs to win any way it can because a loss would be crushing for tournament hopes.
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St. John's fans know this too well...

"Win one for the Gipper" went terribly wrong on November 23rd, 2004, when we lost to St. Francis on the night Alumni Hall was renamed Carnesecca Arena...

I don't think it'll happen this weekend... but we are who we are....

RED STORM SHOCKED ON LOOIE’S BIG NIGHT

St. Francis 53St. John’s 52 Upon hearing the wonderfully surprising news that St. John’s had not merely named the court at Alumni Hall after him, they had named the entire building Lou …
nypost.com nypost.com
 
redmen4life said:
St. John's fans know this too well...

"Win one for the Gipper" went terribly wrong on November 23rd, 2004, when we lost to St. Francis on the night Alumni Hall was renamed Carnesecca Arena...

I don't think it'll happen this weekend... but we are who we are....

RED STORM SHOCKED ON LOOIE’S BIG NIGHT

St. Francis 53St. John’s 52 Upon hearing the wonderfully surprising news that St. John’s had not merely named the court at Alumni Hall after him, they had named the entire building Lou …
nypost.com nypost.com
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“Unfortunately for Carnesecca, the Red Storm’s legacy these days is one of losing.”

If Lenn Robbins only knew what was ahead😁
 
I really appreciate the enthusiasm and sentiment. It's a nice idea, but didn't go well the night the building was named after Coach. Echoes of "Do it for DJ" taunt me after we came out flat as pancakes in the Denver NCAA regional also.

Actually our own great Alumni Hall came up with a great idea that i hope will fly. Won't steal his thunder by disclosing. On first presentation, SJU loved the idea so we will see.

And, no he didn't suggest naming the trainers room the Lin Center.
 
dk423 said:
I can't wait for this game since I think it'll clarify a lot of the bad taste in our mouth after the Georgia game.

Was the Georgia game a product of three games in four days/scheduling naivety on our side, and we are the "for real" team a lot of us think? Or, is this going to be another tough season?
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agreed, nice way to frame it
 
Beasts of the East said:
I really appreciate the enthusiasm and sentiment. It's a nice idea, but didn't go well the night the building was named after Coach. Echoes of "Do it for DJ" taunt me after we came out flat as pancakes in the Denver NCAA regional also.

Actually our own great Alumni Hall came up with a great idea that i hope will fly. Won't steal his thunder by disclosing. On first presentation, SJU loved the idea so we will see.

And, no he didn't suggest naming the trainers room the Lin Center.
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Norm and Lavin coached both of the teams that came out flat.
 
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