I think no matter how you cut it, St. John's, Georgetown and Villanova will end up standing on their own two feet and everything will turn out just fine. The TV market potential of NYC, Washington DC and Philadelphia are just too strong a draw for these teams to be simply discarded to a scrap heap. Especially considering that sports is the ultimate DVR proof original content for TV (People don't typically like to DVR a game and watch it later if they already know the outcome - so they prefer to watch it live) and there are plenty of TV channels out there that need original programing. If I remember correctly, I think that cable channels have liked showing college basketball because the channels have traditionally paid a relatively cheap price for the rights to broadcast it.
John Marinatto OUT as BE Commish
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Rob Lenhart
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rumor making rounds is if there is a split Atlantic 10 schools would hold firm and say no to invites from BE bb schools instead countering with asking 6 BE schools to join the Atlantic 10 making for a 20 school league with two 10 team divisions. Forget thoughts of Gonzaga or a St Mary's joining. Notre Dame also would not join.
As an OT note, I really hope that all the non-football schools pursue the addition of lacrosse teams to champion growth in the sport. It is the fastest growing sport in America and one that can really take off at the non- football schools. Sorry. Had to add my Lax 2 cents... B)
I still see it being a fantastic bball conference if and when it does happen. It will be no A-10 which some like to liken it to. SJU, Georgetown, Nova, Marquette amongst others. I also wouldn't preclude the new league to have some members that play at a lower level in football. In the new arms race, who is going to want someof the crappier football schools around? Landscape still changing for sure, but I don't think it will be nearly the crushing blow that many expect. It hurts schools with lesser football programs much more than it hurts us bball schools, who started as bball-onlies and will continue status quo. TV contracts, although not as lucrative, will be there considering our markets.
Moon Mullen
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A good conference, yes. A fantastic conference, no. A fantastic conference would have some recent NCAA
Champions in it.
Champions in it.
Some of these non football schools including SJU would likely have a better shot at consistent NCAA success in this type of conference. I think some of the bball-onlies could actually build stronger and more competitive programs if they are not constantly the small fish in their conference. For SJU, if Lavin us around I don't think we'll lose a step regardless because he knows how to bring in talent. I think SJU is poised to become a real consistently strong program no matter the change in landscape. We will always have NYC and will always draw an excellent OOC slate of teams.
Moon Mullen
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If it comes to that, I would only hope for that outcome.
Moose
Well-known member
So after reading a bunch of articles today two things stuck out to me. Might have been mentioned here, might not.
Lville AD is being transparent and telling other BE schools they want out. That can't sit too well with Pitino.
And ND wants no part of a split. If ND doesn't want a split I still don't see them joining a football conference. But what about their other sports. Does some conference do what the BE did and throw them a bone in hopes of them eventually coming on board in football?
I stand in the corner of splitting away an have for awhile. Still can built a 10-14 team league of basketball only schools garnering 4-6 bids per year. A-10 on steroids.
Lville AD is being transparent and telling other BE schools they want out. That can't sit too well with Pitino.
And ND wants no part of a split. If ND doesn't want a split I still don't see them joining a football conference. But what about their other sports. Does some conference do what the BE did and throw them a bone in hopes of them eventually coming on board in football?
I stand in the corner of splitting away an have for awhile. Still can built a 10-14 team league of basketball only schools garnering 4-6 bids per year. A-10 on steroids.
I have long believed that a divorce from the football schools will cause discomfort in the short term but is in the long term interests of St.John, Georgetown, Villanova, seaton Hall, Providence, Marquettte & Providence College.
My hope is that the basketball only schools would attempt to add a "West Coast Division" with Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Loyola Marymount, Creighton and others.
My hope is that the basketball only schools would attempt to add a "West Coast Division" with Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Loyola Marymount, Creighton and others.
Coaster1955
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There are 3.6 billion reasons why he's out as commissioner
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sns-mct-acc-espn-strike-big-deal-20120510,0,6457048.story
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sns-mct-acc-espn-strike-big-deal-20120510,0,6457048.story
jrhoops1949
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You got some big time programs splitting money 21 ways with some not such big time programs. How about a solid 9 team conference consisting of schools dedicated to having big time hoops?
Class of 72
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None of the above is happening any time soon. In four months the Big East is negotiating new TV rights that excludes the dearly departed and departing members. If a lucrative enough deal is signed most members will be around for the next 3-5 years minimum. If you read Big East haters on ESPN (writers) they will post negative publicity at every turn. If the contract negotiations stall because we have no commissioner by that time then the Big East deserves to die and I endorse the above scenarios.
Before the BEast can negotiate any TVcontract it must determine what schools will be members.
Note the below linked article Bret McMurphy which indicates that Boise State may be reconsidering its Move to the BEast Conference.
The cold hard fact is that the BEast looks an awfully lot like Conference USA. The BEast is on life support and will bust apart when Louisville, Sincinnati, Yukon or mighty RUT- gers gain acceptance in another conference which the aforementioned are all actively campaigning for.
If Boise State backs out then the BEast can always turn to the Buffalo Bulls or UMass. Ra- Ra- Rah !!!!
The basketball schools must move forward with their own plans and not be merely reactive.
Link: Boise State Reconsidering Move to Big East
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ight-be-having-second-thoughts-about-big-east
Note the below linked article Bret McMurphy which indicates that Boise State may be reconsidering its Move to the BEast Conference.
The cold hard fact is that the BEast looks an awfully lot like Conference USA. The BEast is on life support and will bust apart when Louisville, Sincinnati, Yukon or mighty RUT- gers gain acceptance in another conference which the aforementioned are all actively campaigning for.
If Boise State backs out then the BEast can always turn to the Buffalo Bulls or UMass. Ra- Ra- Rah !!!!
The basketball schools must move forward with their own plans and not be merely reactive.
Link: Boise State Reconsidering Move to Big East
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ight-be-having-second-thoughts-about-big-east
ESPN certainly is against a big deal for the Big East now. They just upped the ante for the ACC to 240 mill per year.You never can tell but at this point the Big East is the only league up for negotiations and FOX and NBC both want it so maybe their deal will exceed the ACC. It might be like the old AFL when NBC bought the rights and blew up the league. Kind of a partnership. Give these schools a big contract and let them go head to head with these other conferences and see who wins. Without equal money if will be a forgone conclusion.
Not sure what the bball schools can do to be proactive. It might be better just to wait and try to retain thhe Big East name. There is still a lot of name value there for the basketball schools. I think that retaining the Big East name as a bball conference is of utmost importance. We'll see what happens moving forward. Little that the bball schools can domand have to do at this point. Let the teams leaving keep paying out.