Joey DelaRosa

[Marillac]

L

7 ppg 4 rpg 2 bpg

Is Marillac holding you hostage? :dry:

I know this was in jest, but I don't think this kid will average half those #s. I am just not as ready as everyone else to write a kid's career off so quickly when he has only played 34 games--2/3's of which were for two different head coaches that didn't recruit him AFTER he tried to get released from his LOI and was denied.

There seems to be a constant theme on this board: expect too much from a player as a frosh or soph, write them off completely when they don't meet those expectations, and then praise programs like Creighton and Xavier for having previously unknown juniors and seniors stepping up to replace lost players.

 

[Moose]

L

7 ppg 4 rpg 2 bpg

Is Marillac holding you hostage? :dry:

I know this was in jest, but I don't think this kid will average half those #s. I am just not as ready as everyone else to write a kid's career off so quickly when he has only played 34 games--2/3's of which were for two different head coaches that didn't recruit him AFTER he tried to get released from his LOI and was denied.

There seems to be a constant theme on this board: expect too much from a player as a frosh or soph, write them off completely when they don't meet those expectations, and then praise programs like Creighton and Xavier for having previously unknown juniors and seniors stepping up to replace lost players.

Can you provide an example of one of those Creighton and Xavier players please? And off the tip of your tongue dont start pouring through their stat pages. Leave that to me to blow holes in your theory

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

 

[Marillac]

L

7 ppg 4 rpg 2 bpg

Is Marillac holding you hostage? :dry:

I know this was in jest, but I don't think this kid will average half those #s. I am just not as ready as everyone else to write a kid's career off so quickly when he has only played 34 games--2/3's of which were for two different head coaches that didn't recruit him AFTER he tried to get released from his LOI and was denied.

There seems to be a constant theme on this board: expect too much from a player as a frosh or soph, write them off completely when they don't meet those expectations, and then praise programs like Creighton and Xavier for having previously unknown juniors and seniors stepping up to replace lost players.

Can you provide an example of one of those Creighton and Xavier players please? And off the tip of your tongue dont start pouring through their stat pages. Leave that to me to blow holes in your theory

You can close your eyes and point at a player on Creighton...Artino,Chatman, Brooks, Zierden (I'm sure there are more, but you've handicapped me with your conditions).

Xavier is tougher off the top of my head...transfers Remy Abel (did not do much at IU) the fat kid from Teen Wolf played relatively well at a lower level and is a star now. Reynolds did nothing as a freshman except one weird game against our awful front court. The backup big Farr.

Then go to teams like Cuse and guys like James Southerland...even Michael Carter-Williams didn't play as a first year player.

Once again, worth repeating, I don't think JDR will be that good, but I wouldn't be all that shocked if he became a decent backup or third string center.

 

[Marillac]

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

My problem with Jones is that he just doesn't go after the ball hard enough. I have no doubt Harrison, Jordan, and Pointer would all outrebound him....probably Greene as well.

 

[redken]

L

7 ppg 4 rpg 2 bpg

Is Marillac holding you hostage? :dry:

I know this was in jest, but I don't think this kid will average half those #s. I am just not as ready as everyone else to write a kid's career off so quickly when he has only played 34 games--2/3's of which were for two different head coaches that didn't recruit him AFTER he tried to get released from his LOI and was denied.

There seems to be a constant theme on this board: expect too much from a player as a frosh or soph, write them off completely when they don't meet those expectations, and then praise programs like Creighton and Xavier for having previously unknown juniors and seniors stepping up to replace lost players.

Can you provide an example of one of those Creighton and Xavier players please? And off the tip of your tongue dont start pouring through their stat pages. Leave that to me to blow holes in your theory

You can close your eyes and point at a player on Creighton...Artino,Chatman, Brooks, Zierden (I'm sure there are more, but you've handicapped me with your conditions).

Xavier is tougher off the top of my head...transfers Remy Abel (did not do much at IU) the fat kid from Teen Wolf played relatively well at a lower level and is a star now. Reynolds did nothing as a freshman except one weird game against our awful front court. The backup big Farr.

Then go to teams like Cuse and guys like James Southerland...even Michael Carter-Williams didn't play as a first year player.

Once again, worth repeating, I don't think JDR will be that good, but I wouldn't be all that shocked if he became a decent backup or third string center.

"A decent third-string center." And what exactly is that?

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

My problem with Jones is that he just doesn't go after the ball hard enough. I have no doubt Harrison, Jordan, and Pointer would all outrebound him....probably Greene as well.

Greene I dont think so, but yes the other three have and would outrebound him.

Do you no think he can help us out offensively?
Would you play him more or less?

 

[Marillac]

L

7 ppg 4 rpg 2 bpg

Is Marillac holding you hostage? :dry:

I know this was in jest, but I don't think this kid will average half those #s. I am just not as ready as everyone else to write a kid's career off so quickly when he has only played 34 games--2/3's of which were for two different head coaches that didn't recruit him AFTER he tried to get released from his LOI and was denied.

There seems to be a constant theme on this board: expect too much from a player as a frosh or soph, write them off completely when they don't meet those expectations, and then praise programs like Creighton and Xavier for having previously unknown juniors and seniors stepping up to replace lost players.

Can you provide an example of one of those Creighton and Xavier players please? And off the tip of your tongue dont start pouring through their stat pages. Leave that to me to blow holes in your theory

You can close your eyes and point at a player on Creighton...Artino,Chatman, Brooks, Zierden (I'm sure there are more, but you've handicapped me with your conditions).

Xavier is tougher off the top of my head...transfers Remy Abel (did not do much at IU) the fat kid from Teen Wolf played relatively well at a lower level and is a star now. Reynolds did nothing as a freshman except one weird game against our awful front court. The backup big Farr.

Then go to teams like Cuse and guys like James Southerland...even Michael Carter-Williams didn't play as a first year player.

Once again, worth repeating, I don't think JDR will be that good, but I wouldn't be all that shocked if he became a decent backup or third string center.

"A decent third-string center." And what exactly is that?

Is it so hard to correctly quote the post you are responding to? I wrote: " a decent backup or third string center." You don't think teams have played a third big man? A Souleymane Wane type of guy that can come in and give 5-10 minutes when need without costing his team the game. I say third string because I believe ADR will be slightly better due to his skill set, but who knows when ADR will start playing.

 

[Section3]

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

Amase...I too like Jones for his agility and skills including ability to play with back to the basket...However, I can also feel the frustration that fans and coaches must feel when watching him finger roll when he should slam the ball and opponents hands thru the rim...

I dont what it is going to take to get this kid to play with a level of aggression...perhaps Lavin needs to order a code red...

 

[Section3]

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

Amase...I too like Jones for his agility and skills including ability to play with back to the basket...However, I can also feel the frustration that fans and coaches must feel when watching him finger roll when he should slam the ball and opponents hands thru the rim...

I dont know what it is going to take to get this kid to play with a level of aggression...perhaps Lavin needs to order a code red...

 

[Marillac]

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

My problem with Jones is that he just doesn't go after the ball hard enough. I have no doubt Harrison, Jordan, and Pointer would all outrebound him....probably Greene as well.

Greene I dont think so, but yes the other three have and would outrebound him.

Do you no think he can help us out offensively?
Would you play him more or less?

I see him a DH type player. Bring him in to score immediately off a pick and pop or get him in the gap or at the FT line against a zone for a quick jumper. He doesn't do a bad job on defense when he can body the defender, but he reacts slowly and doesn't fill the lane well against penetration.

His effort falls off noticeably after a few minutes, and I think that is due to him playing a secondary/tertiary role on the perimeter. Guys like D'Lo grew up knowing they had to do it all to win whereas it appears that Jones was able to rely on others and pick his spots.

He really hurts us on the boards right now. I'm not sure that is something that will ever change...guys either go after the ball or they don't. What he can improve on are his hands (drops way too many balls he touches) and positioning.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

Amase...I too like Jones for his agility and skills including ability to play with back to the basket...However, I can also feel the frustration that fans and coaches must feel when watching him finger roll when he should slam the ball and opponents hands thru the rim...

I dont know what it is going to take to get this kid to play with a level of aggression...perhaps Lavin needs to order a code red...

Yes I agree, not aggressive and it hurts him, but havnt seen him go up soft for layups. The one bucket he had vs minny he got a nice pass from branch and went right up quick and finished with a defender on him.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

My problem with Jones is that he just doesn't go after the ball hard enough. I have no doubt Harrison, Jordan, and Pointer would all outrebound him....probably Greene as well.

Greene I dont think so, but yes the other three have and would outrebound him.

Do you no think he can help us out offensively?
Would you play him more or less?

I see him a DH type player. Bring him in to score immediately off a pick and pop or get him in the gap or at the FT line against a zone for a quick jumper. He doesn't do a bad job on defense when he can body the defender, but he reacts slowly and doesn't fill the lane well against penetration.

His effort falls off noticeably after a few minutes, and I think that is due to him playing a secondary/tertiary role on the perimeter. Guys like D'Lo grew up knowing they had to do it all to win whereas it appears that Jones was able to rely on others and pick his spots.

He really hurts us on the boards right now. I'm not sure that is something that will ever change...guys either go after the ball or they don't. What he can improve on are his hands (drops way too many balls he touches) and positioning.

I never thought Id see the day I would miss the marillac football analogies

 

[mjmaherjr]

All I know is the rumors of st johns fans apathy is certainly overblown when a JDR thread gets up to 4 pages on the site

 

[Section3]

GG

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

Amase...I too like Jones for his agility and skills including ability to play with back to the basket...However, I can also feel the frustration that fans and coaches must feel when watching him finger roll when he should slam the ball and opponents hands thru the rim...

I dont know what it is going to take to get this kid to play with a level of aggression...perhaps Lavin needs to order a code red...

Yes I agree, not aggressive and it hurts him, but havnt seen him go up soft for layups. The one bucket he had vs minny he got a nice pass from branch and went right up quick and finished with a defender on him.

Was actually the Minny game that epitomizes my point...he went up soft for a finger roll, was blocked and yanked from the game at which time Hines laid into him...

 

[Amaseinyourface]

GG

I gotta say I was one of those guys that thought Christian Jones would be a key this year. After a year off he still looks timid and lost. What happened ? I really liked some of his game two years ago. He could be a key for us if he can turn his game around. We need solid minutes from him. Obekpa looks some dominate underneath, its awesome to see.
Also thought we relied on the 3 point shot way to much, this teams strenghths is driving.
Poor free throws killed us, but i have to give props to the kids. These guys battled the whole game and came within 3 under a minute. Impressive against a legit top 5 team.
Overall, keep up the intensity, improve free throws, work on short game, and get JONES on board!

Im probably his biggest fan on this board. Has he played great? No, but I dont think he has played poorly. He is definitely not a center and that's all lavin is giving him minutes at. Why do we never see him and obekpa on the court together for more than a minute? Of course Jones will not protect the rim as a center and of course he will get beat by guards off switches 20 ft from the hoop. My question is why is he asked to do those things and subsequently be set up to fail?

He is someone who can catch the ball on the block and go up quickly to finish. Obekpa still is not a good finisher and dom doesnt catch many passes 2 ft from the hoop. Those types of easy buckets are needed to make up for our streaky (mostly cold) shooting from the perimeter. He isnt a good rebounder, not even an average one really but give the kid chance at least. We need baskets and Jones can help.

Amase...I too like Jones for his agility and skills including ability to play with back to the basket...However, I can also feel the frustration that fans and coaches must feel when watching him finger roll when he should slam the ball and opponents hands thru the rim...

I dont know what it is going to take to get this kid to play with a level of aggression...perhaps Lavin needs to order a code red...

Yes I agree, not aggressive and it hurts him, but havnt seen him go up soft for layups. The one bucket he had vs minny he got a nice pass from branch and went right up quick and finished with a defender on him.

Was actually the Minny game that epitomizes my point...he went up soft for a finger roll, was blocked and yanked from the game at which time Hines laid into him...

I must have missed that play.

 

[redken]

L

7 ppg 4 rpg 2 bpg

Is Marillac holding you hostage? :dry:

I know this was in jest, but I don't think this kid will average half those #s. I am just not as ready as everyone else to write a kid's career off so quickly when he has only played 34 games--2/3's of which were for two different head coaches that didn't recruit him AFTER he tried to get released from his LOI and was denied.

There seems to be a constant theme on this board: expect too much from a player as a frosh or soph, write them off completely when they don't meet those expectations, and then praise programs like Creighton and Xavier for having previously unknown juniors and seniors stepping up to replace lost players.

Can you provide an example of one of those Creighton and Xavier players please? And off the tip of your tongue dont start pouring through their stat pages. Leave that to me to blow holes in your theory

You can close your eyes and point at a player on Creighton...Artino,Chatman, Brooks, Zierden (I'm sure there are more, but you've handicapped me with your conditions).

Xavier is tougher off the top of my head...transfers Remy Abel (did not do much at IU) the fat kid from Teen Wolf played relatively well at a lower level and is a star now. Reynolds did nothing as a freshman except one weird game against our awful front court. The backup big Farr.

Then go to teams like Cuse and guys like James Southerland...even Michael Carter-Williams didn't play as a first year player.

Once again, worth repeating, I don't think JDR will be that good, but I wouldn't be all that shocked if he became a decent backup or third string center.

"A decent third-string center." And what exactly is that?

Is it so hard to correctly quote the post you are responding to? I wrote: " a decent backup or third string center." You don't think teams have played a third big man? A Souleymane Wane type of guy that can come in and give 5-10 minutes when need without costing his team the game. I say third string because I believe ADR will be slightly better due to his skill set, but who knows when ADR will start playing.

My bad, Marillac. (And lighten up; I'm not someone who takes digs at you regarding your optimism.) All I meant is that a third-string center rarely contributes to a team's success. It was was positively awful to watch Harrison forced defend the low post at the end of the Gonzaga game, and Joey's presence on defense might have been made a difference. But had he replaced CO, he would have been our second-string center ... third-string centers rarely see any minutes, let alone 5-10. Bottom line: we'll all have I better idea of what he and can and can't do by the end of the month.

 

[GardenCity62]

No one should ever call the posters apethetic. There are just not enough of us who reside close enough to attend games.
If we could only rub off on the student body. Imagine walking across campus to attend tomorrow's game.

 

[TX Redman]

All I know is the rumors of st johns fans apathy is certainly overblown when a JDR thread gets up to 4 pages on the site

It is actually a bit sad. We get fired up over even the slightest glimpses of hope...

Hope is all we got... Question is, can he rebound and box out?

 

[Mike]

All I know is the rumors of st johns fans apathy is certainly overblown when a JDR thread gets up to 4 pages on the site

It is actually a bit sad. We get fired up over even the slightest glimpses of hope...

Hope is all we got... Question is, can he rebound and box out?

Well according to most here no, but I will wait to see when he plays.