Jayson Williams - a free man

  Right...... like i said, your analogy is terrible and makes no sense. Comparing a drunk, animal killing, human killing jerkoff to a musician in the 60's who had a drug problem. Completely on point.

..and i'm the sheltered one...
 
  Right...... like i said, your analogy is terrible and makes no sense. Comparing a drunk, animal killing, human killing jerkoff to a musician in the 60's who had a drug problem. Completely on point.

..and i'm the sheltered one...
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since you apparently never really heard of jerry garcia...he played till the mid 90s..further is another incarnation of the grateful dead. they're still playing. drug problem??? i guess you're too sheltered to remember chris mullin had a "problem" which he was strong enough to address. not before he hurt another human being, however. i mention him since you use him as your "handle".

as i mentioned before...selective morality.
 
  Right...... like i said, your analogy is terrible and makes no sense. Comparing a drunk, animal killing, human killing jerkoff to a musician in the 60's who had a drug problem. Completely on point.

..and i'm the sheltered one...
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since you apparently never really heard of jerry garcia...he played till the mid 90s..further is another incarnation of the grateful dead. they're still playing. drug problem??? i guess you're too sheltered to remember chris mullin had a "problem" which he was strong enough to address. not before he hurt another human being, however. i mention him since you use him as your "handle".

as i mentioned before...selective morality.
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I never heard of him, just saw the band over 30 times. I'm well aware of his career. Regardless, your analogy is still weak. You made a stupid comment about Garcia encouraging drug use to "Millions" of people. That is just wrong. Spin it however you like. Better yet, newsman, find me a quote where he encourages his fans to use drugs. And not LSD in the 60s, because it wasn't illegal then.

And please don't quote any song lyrics because most of Jerry's lyrics were written by Robert Hunter.
 
 Always liked Jayson.If interested he wrote AUTO Biog "Loose Balls". Book gives some insight as to how he thinks.
 
  Right...... like i said, your analogy is terrible and makes no sense. Comparing a drunk, animal killing, human killing jerkoff to a musician in the 60's who had a drug problem. Completely on point.

..and i'm the sheltered one...
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since you apparently never really heard of jerry garcia...he played till the mid 90s..further is another incarnation of the grateful dead. they're still playing. drug problem??? i guess you're too sheltered to remember chris mullin had a "problem" which he was strong enough to address. not before he hurt another human being, however. i mention him since you use him as your "handle".

as i mentioned before...selective morality.
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I never heard of him, just saw the band over 30 times. I'm well aware of his career. Regardless, your analogy is still weak. You made a stupid comment about Garcia encouraging drug use to "Millions" of people. That is just wrong. Spin it however you like. Better yet, newsman, find me a quote where he encourages his fans to use drugs. And not LSD in the 60s, because it wasn't illegal then.

And please don't quote any song lyrics because most of Jerry's lyrics were written by Robert Hunter.
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i can't believe i'm going back and forth with the only straight person who went to those concerts. tell me you didn't feel out of place.
 
I actually spotted Jayson Williams sitting by himself the other day. I attended some classes with Jayson back in the 80's. I certainly don't condone what he did. Nor do I want to make this a debate about what happened. I guess the courts have made that judgement. Anyway, I said hello and he was in good spirits. Physically he looked thin (Rikers may do that to you). He was wearing an SJU shirt and we talked about Looie and the "old" St John's teams. He said he wished Mo would have taken the job. He thought (the Jarvae) really hurt the Program. He likes Coach Lavin. I guess we spoke about ten minutes and i wished him luck. Privately I hope he can turn his life around and we don't have to read about something terrible. All in all he seemed like a guy in pretty good spirits considering all (mostly bad) that has happened. 
 
I just don't think it is right for someone who basically got away with murder while drunk, then proves he has not been rehabilitated when he goes out and drives under the influence should be anywhere near a college bball program. And I'd also go as far as saying he is a sick man. Clearly he has demons. So I'd appreciate if people like Tom in Salem would not say chill out. Others can express the way they feel
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It wasn't first degree murder here. He was drunk and messing around with his guns. All were having a good time till end went bad with a fatal accident. He don't "get away with it" either. He went to jail and did time. His fatal flaw was trying to cover it up. He did the equivalent of driving away from the scene of the crime because I'd panic and fear of what would happen. This is not an evil dude. This is no different an a drunk driver who fled the scene out of panic.

I've done lots of stupid things back in the day as have most people. Majority of people who leave a bar or restaurant after happy hour are would-be criminals. There was no malicious intent in Jayson Williams's crime. I'm not a religious person. I'm a pantheist, but I was raised Catholic and forgiveness is a main tenet of e religion. J. Will. Made a huge mistake and did jail time for trying to cover up his mistakes while panicking to save his existence on this planet. I don't mind him around the program. He needs to rehab his life now.
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There WAS malicious intent in my recollection, although he may have been impaired. Wasn't the story that Jayson threatened the driver with a gun for wanting to get paid, and warned that he would shoot him when the rifle "went off". Maybe he intended to shoot and miss, big joke, maybe he was incensed when the guy didn't back down when facing a gun pointed at him. You can't compare this to a drunk driver, whose lethal weapon is 3000 lbs of metal.

That being said, despite it all, I've always thought Jayson has a good side, and a lot of demons. He did donate $1 million to the school - more than any other athlete to my knowedge, and while that doesn't absolve him of anything, is indicative of a generous heart.
 
I knew Jay when I was an undergrad and was pretty friendly with him around Alumni Hall for a couple of years. He was the nicest, most friendliest dude. What happened to the Christofi family (and to a lesser extent to Jay as a result) was just horrible.

I hope he finds his way to atone and straighten up & fly right.
 
I took the time to read all of the comments on this thread, and I would say after reading, that redemption begins with how Jayson conducts his life going forward. Some of us will never forgive him. Some of us have forgiven him already. Listening to and reading the interviews Jayson has given in recent weeks gives me hope. Many of us believe in a God who forgives, and the indications are that Jayson has embraced that God. Regardless of what you, I, or anyone else thinks, the rest of this story is up to Jayson. He has the capability to be a tremendous agent for good. He has spoken to groups of schoolkids in places where being a former NBA star carries a lot of currency. He claims to be a committed Christian - only he and God knows his sincerity, so we shouldn't pass judgment prematurely. If you ask me, I'm rooting for the guy to pull off a great comeback, not erasing deeds that had horrific consequences, but conducting the rest of his life with honor and valor. If SJU is a part of that, I'm all for it.
 
I took the time to read all of the comments on this thread, and I would say after reading, that redemption begins with how Jayson conducts his life going forward. Some of us will never forgive him. Some of us have forgiven him already. Listening to and reading the interviews Jayson has given in recent weeks gives me hope. Many of us believe in a God who forgives, and the indications are that Jayson has embraced that God. Regardless of what you, I, or anyone else thinks, the rest of this story is up to Jayson. He has the capability to be a tremendous agent for good. He has spoken to groups of schoolkids in places where being a former NBA star carries a lot of currency. He claims to be a committed Christian - only he and God knows his sincerity, so we shouldn't pass judgment prematurely. If you ask me, I'm rooting for the guy to pull off a great comeback, not erasing deeds that had horrific consequences, but conducting the rest of his life with honor and valor. If SJU is a part of that, I'm all for it.
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Amen
 
 It's easy to talk the talk. Let's see if Jayson is truly ready to walk the walk. Hopefully, he is. 
 
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