As far as IW, lets not call the kettle black. There are already rumors Lavin tried to get Tiny a different job. And if our staff had any wiggle room at all, I don't think it's out of the question we would've brought him on to the staff. We play the games just like everyone else. We just couldn't guarantee the playing time and focal point status that the Hall could.
Thank you. I have no idea what SHU actually did and did not do in this recruitment, and I have no idea what SJU actually did and did not do. It appears that this one became more involved than most, especially if SHU brings Morton aboard.
But even if that turns out to be the case accusing the school who gets the recruit of playing dirty is just a bad look, not to mention cliche. It's the default for the losing fan base(s) in every recruitment, especially when it's close until the end. We've won our fair share of those in the last 18 months and have lost some as well. SHU won this one, hats off to them and best of luck to IW.
But IMO you can still be dirty and legal at the same time. There are rules and unwritten rules. Whenever a coach uses a player to ride his back (a kid mind you) strictly to further his own career, it's just wrong. I realize SHU isn''t exclusive in doing this. If we brought him on board as well as his coach I still think many posters would be a bit embarrassed for needing to bring his coach just to land him. When you are a grown man manipulating a kid like that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth legal or not. What makes it worse are the unsaid components which we all know is happening behind the curtains i.e. IW (and maybe mother too) getting paid with Morton's paycheck.
It's not just the act itself, it's the fact that it opens Pandora's box to other unethical things. The NCAA is a joke. They will try to hold back Orlando Sanchez with fantastic grades, both parents gone, etc. all because of a few minutes, but they will turn a blind eye to the extremely likely possibility of a player being paid and unethical recruiting practices i.e. bringing a coach along.
You missed my point Joe. It's not about the details of this recruitment, because there are going to be details to every recruitment (especially in the eyes of the losing fan bases). If you're looking to follow something that is pure and ethical, bigtime college athletics is not the spot!
My point is that, no matter what the details, I don't particularly enjoy having to listen to the criticisms that we are dirty every time we get a recruit. It's hackneyed and comes off as nothing more than sour grapes. It's the same situation when we are on the other side of it.
I understand your point, 1512, as it has merits. But this situation was different, as several things were out in the open. It wasn't a bunch of hypothetical or insinuation like the Providence and Cincy fans were doing when the Johnnies landed Sampson, Sanchez, and Obekpa, respectively.
We were Whitehead's destination around this hour on Thursday until the Hall became desperate and threw everything at his camp (including, the kitchen sink). I, very rarely cry foul when the Johnnies lose out to a school for a recruit. But most of us (if not all of us) know what went down yesterday.
The Hall did what they had to do within legal boundaries to get Whitehead. Kudos! But it came off as a sleaze-like move, and it was supposedly done once they felt they weren't gonna garner his services.
