I Wonder Why?

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docbutler

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I wonder why every game we play in Madison Square Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?
 
I wonder why harrison gets so little respect from the refs. Understand he is not the quietest of kids out there but lets be honest, this is college bball and Dlo is far from the only one.
 
I wonder why our zone offense has our three guards passing the ball back and forth instead of penetrating or overloading the zone.
 
I wonder why harrison gets so little respect from the refs. Understand he is not the quietest of kids out there but lets be honest, this is college bball and Dlo is far from the only one.
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That's because he plays for SJU. If he wore a Kentucky, Duke, Syracuse, Kansas, Uconn, or some other marquee program, he would be treated differently. It happens in everywhere and with even far superior players.

You get two minutes for thinking of checking Sidney Crosby. John Tavares on the other hand, not so much.
 
Doc Butler

So you wonder why? So many cogent wonders why…you're not alone...DIon and the Belmonts (Bronx) circa 1958 for those old enough:

I wonder why
I love you like I do
Is it because I think you love me too
I wonder why
I love you like I do
Like I do

:)
 
I wonder why John Gaffney had a running conversation with me Wed when I kindly asked him about some of his atrocious calls?

I wonder where that gray haired ref came from last night, he seemed to make every call agaist the Johnnies late in the game?

I wonder why the players can't improve there own basketball IQ?
 
I wonder why harrison gets so little respect from the refs. Understand he is not the quietest of kids out there but lets be honest, this is college bball and Dlo is far from the only one.
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no respect? almost every shot he takes he's falling into a defender as he shoots and draws a foul.
 
Doc Butler

So you wonder why? So many cogent wonders why…you're not alone...DIon and the Belmonts (Bronx) circa 1958 for those old enough:

I wonder why
I love you like I do
Is it because I think you love me too
I wonder why
I love you like I do
Like I do

:)
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Great call SSG. First thing I thought of when I saw title of thread. Glad to have you back.
 
Yep, That was a great song from a wonderful doo opp group! Nice recall SSG.
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Agree. That said, this has to the first time ever -- and probably the last time -- that I've seen those words right next to U.S.Grant's mug.
 
The big question is Why our staff who earn millons can not evaluate shootong talent. If we had one consistent deep shooter we could be a top ten team
Perhaps coach has to make some changes ?
 
Yep, That was a great song from a wonderful doo opp group! Nice recall SSG.
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Agree. That said, this has to the first time ever -- and probably the last time -- that I've seen those words right next to U.S.Grant's mug.
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Why not? Dion wrote about Abraham,Martin and John. Two presidents there.
 
Docbutler, you need not worry why. It may be crass, and of course something thats been said before, but the reason so many of your concerns occur is because Steve Lavin simply isn't very good at coaching or running a program.
Would replacing him solve everything? No.
but it's a good start.
 
The title of this thread should be, Why we don't win consistently, which is essentially the topic of every single thread. We don't draw because we don't win enough, we don't attract top recruits in abundance because we don't win enough, and we don't win enough because we aren't good enough. Many here place that on coaching ability, and some place it on the overall talent and depth of the roster. Either way, after 5 seasons, this comes back to Lavin. Our program is kind of like a batter's swing in baseball: Correct one or two things, and the rest naturally straightens out.
 
I wonder why harrison gets so little respect from the refs. Understand he is not the quietest of kids out there but lets be honest, this is college bball and Dlo is far from the only one.
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no respect? almost every shot he takes he's falling into a defender as he shoots and draws a foul.
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Missed the zaga game? I agree that he does try to draw contact too much but he gets hit plenty.
 
I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?
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I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.
 
I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?
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I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.
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You can't be serious
 
I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?
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I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.
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You can't be serious
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Tell me why we don't get home court calls. We don't even get some obvious calls. I attend most of the games and the refs consistently make calls against us. BTW when Jordan drove to the basket in the zag game at the end, he was slammed in his left arm. But a foul wasn't called only a turnover. Fill the garden with screaming fans and we get the call . A duke player would have got the call for sure. It is a sought of tale of two cities
 
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