Hire Mike Rice
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How would an employee remain on the payroll if they supposedly got terminated? If Mullin and the school were in the right why is it still a negotiable issue 7 months after these two Xaverian guys stopped talking? There will be a big drop from donors until this school shows some fiscal responsibility. Those that negotiated this rediculous contract need to be held accountable. Hopefully this doesn't end up an uglier ending than the Jarvis fiasco.
what kind of contract did he sign that he can't be fired or let go or sent out the door with a cheaper buy out? I'm in the wrong business. And...if Mullin and Co. were gonna take this road maybe someone on the staff should of advised, you got us on the hook for 5 years with him, MAKE IT RIGHT!!!
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I think "good faith" is a major issue.
Slice did not resign and will not resign and has an iron clad contract. There obviously are not grounds for termination so he continues to get paid. We can only hope he wants to return to coaching and finds something suitable, meaning very high paying, so that we can get out of this financial burden.
No we could not as that would be a clear case of constructive dismissal.
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It takes two parties to agree to a contract. The folks on our side of the table need to be held accountable. If that means coming up with 400k per year it should start with the president, anyone acting as legal counsel and end with Mullin. If it is truly such a huge financial burden then the program will have a big problem ever being competitive in the Big East. If this level of incompetent management gets a pass it sends a very bad message to alums and damages endowment trust. What has been going on is almost unprecedented at any Power 6 basketball school.
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Typically in an employment contract there is specific and often boilerplate language for termination with cause, often accompanied by soecific notice of such breaches and if warranted an opportunity for remediation prior to termination. The application of TWC can be a dangerous route to take for an employer if the situation is not clearcut.
What is most disappointing is that a university capable of financing and hiding the shenanigans of Harrington, Wile, and Cecilia Chang cannot afford to eat a 500k per mistake in a marquis revenue producing sport. Fans pay for unpaid student athletes to be coached by compeyent highly compensated professionals, and separations with pay are part of the price of running a big time program with tv, radio, and sneaker/apparel contracts.
Its ludicrous that bobby g. Without an AD Would exoect a neophyte coach to operate short staffed. Perhaps as a former CYO referee himself, Bobby g. Is running a practice or two or maybe could find an assistant at nearby St. Andrews or even better from perennial powerhouse st francis de sales.
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The likelihood is the essence of the contract Slice signed has been used many times in the past, especially termination clauses. What i would expect would be different is that the severance pay for termination without cause would oay him the entire salary due him.over the remaining term. That is likely what Slice insisted on to make the move to SJU and Mullin supported that. I'm guessing in the end Slice asked out but also wouldn't resign, and instead asked to be terminated without cause. Because the personal vitriol between Mullin and Slice made the situation untenable the university only had 2 options - to terminate him without cause or to perpetuate a horrible animosity between the 2. At that point there was no turning back once Slice and Mullin wanted no oart of each other. More than a bad contract the mere fact that it was long term guaranteed caused this to occur. If Sluce were 40 and could get a job in that salary range the university had some negotiating leverage. Slice has apparently made the decision to sit out 4 years and get paid, but very possibly he gets oaid AND can seek employment elsewhere
So then what was Cal talking about when he said that the school and Slice ought to resolve this? Whats to resolve? I assume if the school could get away with any kind of buy out it would do so. If I may quote Henry Hill
sounds like Slice is gonna kick back for the next 3+ years while he says to the school "Business is bad? F you, pay me!"
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They probably don't want Slice going back to Cal or anywhere else showing up at kids houses talking trash about Mullin. School probably content to have him sit out next couple years and by time he gets another job, Mullin will either be on firmer ground and the program going in right direction or he is back in Cali and Tim Cluess will be our coach.
wow its almost as bad as the Bobby Bonilla contract. What did he do exactly to get paid for 4 years? Zero recruits? I said it before, i'll say it again.....tell Mully you wanted him, go make it right and get this guy to earn his check. They should of waited for clause and got him canned. Seems like anywhere else in the business world people understand this, why not here in this higher institution? Document, document, and surprise...termination!
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Having known a couple of terminated St. John's employees, trust me Cappy105 there is nothing Vincention or remotely Catholic with the way St. John's does business. We are, academically and sports administration wise, the worst run university in the Big East Conference. Even DePaul does things better from an academics standard. I know the trustees must share some kind of vision for the university but from selecting a president to that president selecting an A.D. to the amateurish approach to what could be a lucrative basketball product in one of the best sports conferences in America, they have failed representing the best interests of alums and donors. Whatever has been passing as trying to grow a university on a world class level ends up resembling a retreat in the Catskills of the five families.