Has the Red Storm Name Grown on Anyone?

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Never understood why the Cleveland Indians would change their name? Indians is not derogatory in my mind. Neither is Braves or Chiefs. I can understand Redskins or Redmen because you’re referencing the color of a groups skin. It’s derogatory and racial in nature. But, Indians , Braves and Chiefs are not. 

I’ve become accustomed to the name Red Storm although I don’t care for it. At this point I just want the program to be successful. If I had my choice I would liked the Johnnies.
 
I graduated as a Redmen, I will die a Redmen. This political correctness is killing America!
 
richard A Steinfeld post=436981 said:
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Beast of the East post=436966 said:
Syracuse just changed mascots not the name.
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Is that actually correct? I thought the teams were just the Orange now across the board. But I'm sure broadcasters still slip and call them Orangemen along with the fans who do it on purpose, which is why I want us to go to the St. John's Red. We'd still call them Redmen. We could probably even get away with selling "Red Men" shirts instead of "Redmen" ones
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Orangemen also a form of Indian, name changed to just Orange.


 
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Also supporters of William of Orange, and you don’t want to antagonize those guys!
 
Mean Gene post=436984 said:
Never understood why the Cleveland Indians would change their name? Indians is not derogatory in my mind. Neither is Braves or Chiefs. I can understand Redskins or Redmen because you’re referencing the color of a groups skin. It’s derogatory and racial in nature. But, Indians , Braves and Chiefs are not. 

I’ve become accustomed to the name Red Storm although I don’t care for it. At this point I just want the program to be successful. If I had my choice I would liked the Johnnies.
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when are the masses going to get worked up over:
Celtics
Gaels
Fighting Irish
Vandals
Highlanders
 
As a person of proud Irish Catholic heritage, I find Syracuse's "nickname" (which I won't use) Highly Offensive.  
 
Prior to the name change the women’s teams at StJohn’s were call the “Express”. The logo for the StJohn’s Express was a speeding subway car.

Rather than move the men and women’s teams  to the meaningless name ”RedStorm” the school should have have adopted the name Express which would have reflected its New York City roots.
 
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otis post=436999 said:
Prior to the name change the women’s teams at StJohn’s were call the “Express”. The logo for the StJohn’s Express was a speeding subway car.

Rather than move the men and women’s teams  to the meaningless name ”RedStorm” the school should have have adopted the name Express which would have reflected its New York City roots.
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I'd actually have preferred that than Red Storm. Now with everyone driving post covid maybe the St Johns Traffic or Gridlock would work. I have a friend who is graphic designer who could do a logo of cars stuck in traffic with the drivers giving the middle finger
 
Frank
I agree 100 percent with you
graduated a Redmen
hard not to chant “let’s go redmen at games
 
Does anyone actually call them the Red Storm?  I mean regularly without being paid to do so?
 
austour post=437005 said:
Does anyone actually call them the Red Storm?  I mean regularly without being paid to do so?
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I’m mot sure if I’ve ever used it once outside of this site with friends
 
otis post=436999 said:
Prior to the name change the women’s teams at StJohn’s were call the “Express”. The logo for the StJohn’s Express was a speeding subway car.

Rather than move the men and women’s teams  to the meaningless name ”RedStorm” the school should have have adopted the name Express which would have reflected its New York City roots.
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I remember those days and as an aside they could have converted the Express to the name of the iconic Red NYC subway cars that were known as the "Redbirds"--there was even one at Queens boro hall after they were retired.  Could have had it in front of CA.
 
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To college basketball fans I say I watched the St. John's game. To the ordinary person I say I watched the St. John's basketball game. 
 
austour post=437005 said:
Does anyone actually call them the Red Storm?  I mean regularly without being paid to do so?
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Which is a great point. You rarely hear it on broadcasts. Whereas I often hear "the Jayhawks take the lead" or "The Huskies turn the ball over". I feel like for us it's "St. John's wins the game". I feel like I hear us referred to as The Johnies more than Red Storm. I rarely hear Red Storm.
 
Even though I noted I grew to accept it, I don't recall ever using it in conversation.  As best I  can remember, only reason I have it in my forum ID name as I couldn't think of anything creative in the moment when setting up the account.  Knew there was a lot of redmen and forum name, so just went with it and added the NC at end since I relocated.
 
When Norm was our coach I think I used the term shite storm the last year. Probably used it with Mullin when he sat on the scorers table also 
 
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I'm probably younger than most commenting on this topic, and I don't even remember when they were referred to as the Redmen, but I'm kind of indifferent to Red Storm. 

Like a lot of people mentioned I will never say to a friend "You see the Red Storm game last night?" (and after I even typed that and read it back it sounded so weird.)  I mostly just refer to them as St. John's, SJU or The Johnnies.

I never understood why they just didn't change the name to the "Johnnies" since most real fans, and most people who follow college basketball call them that anyway.
 
Fyi...there is a Saint John's University in Minnesota...their team name in the Johnnies (D3)
 
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Las Vegan post=437029 said:
The dreadful choice of Red Storm as nickname is surpassed only by the school's selection of mascots. Ugh.
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to be fair if you couldn’t get enjoyment out of flag boy running around till he almost passed out I’m not sure if you can enjoy life . Lololol
 
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