Harrison from Three

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Can we start to agree that Harrison is simply a lousy three point shooter? The bottom line is that it is bad business to have someone, who shoots below 30% from the arc, chucking all of these threes.

Harrison from three this year 22.9% (this is particularly horrible)
Harrison from three last year 31.5% (well below 30% in BE competitions)

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE
There are so few picks, screens, drives to the basket. There is also very little movement without the ball. I would start rewarding those who pass with minutes.

I know I am an extremist on this topic, but I one of those fans who believe we are better without Harrison. I love his intensity, but as long as we have a coach that let's them play without much structure........happy chucking.
 
Can we start to agree that Harrison is simply a lousy three point shooter? The bottom line is that it is bad business to have someone, who shoots below 30% from the arc, chucking all of these threes.

Harrison from three this year 22.9% (this is particularly horrible)
Harrison from three last year 31.5% (well below 30% in BE competitions)

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE
There are so few picks, screens, drives to the basket. There is also very little movement without the ball. I would start rewarding those who pass with minutes.

I know I am an extremist on this topic, but I one of those fans who believe we are better without Harrison. I love his intensity, but as long as we have a coach that let's them play without much structure........happy chucking.
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And scoring down the stretch,be it a jumper or free throws, will come from who?
 
Can we start to agree that Harrison is simply a lousy three point shooter? The bottom line is that it is bad business to have someone, who shoots below 30% from the arc, chucking all of these threes.

Harrison from three this year 22.9% (this is particularly horrible)
Harrison from three last year 31.5% (well below 30% in BE competitions)

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE
There are so few picks, screens, drives to the basket. There is also very little movement without the ball. I would start rewarding those who pass with minutes.

I know I am an extremist on this topic, but I one of those fans who believe we are better without Harrison. I love his intensity, but as long as we have a coach that let's them play without much structure........happy chucking.
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I think we need Harrison's ability to score but agree that he seems to relish reputation as a gunner despite fact that he is not a great shooter. Think Lavin needs to rein in the long 2s/3s until we have at least tried to get an easier shot
 
He has been off to start the year, but as Paultzman touched upon who exactly do you want to have the ball late in close games?
 
Harrison shoots much better off the dribble. We never set up anything to give him an open shot coming off a screen during our half court sets. Never. The one thing that does seem to work is our out of bounds plays where he comes off a double heading towards the corner. It really isn't a difficult play to draw up but it has been effective non the less.
 
It's fools gold (thank you Pat Riley). If we hitch our wagon to this percentage, he'll hit some big shots and win some games, but we won't achieve our goal. It is the Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony effect.

I understand the concern about who will put the team on their shoulders down the stretch. Harrison has that very necessary fearless approach. However, at the end of the day, is this a talented roster or not? I personally look forward to seeing Jordan and Sanchez in this spot.
 
It's fools gold (thank you Pat Riley). If we hitch our wagon to this percentage, he'll hit some big shots and win some games, but we won't achieve our goal. It is the Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony effect.

I understand the concern about who will put the team on their shoulders down the stretch. Harrison has that very necessary fearless approach. However, at the end of the day, is this a talented roster or not? I personally look forward to seeing Jordan and Sanchez in this spot.
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If they prove they can knock down shots great. That will possibly help improve Harrison's shooting %, since he won't feel need to shoot so often.
 
He scores twenty points a game, which are points that we need. Hopefully, he will cut down on the three point shots a little. However, he needs to shoot some to keep the defense honest and allow him to drive to the hoop. He is by far our best foul shooter, so you want the ball in his hands.
 
When you have no offensive system to speak of, this is what you'll get.

And please never mention D'Angelo and Iverson in the same sentence.
 
He scores twenty points a game, which are points that we need. Hopefully,
he will cut down on the three point shots a little. However, he needs to shoot some to keep the defense honest and allow him to drive to the hoop. He is by far our best foul shooter, so you want the ball in his hands.
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But they need to work for better shots and everyone has to be involved...shame we don't appear to have some set plays for Sanchez et al...to get them in flow and on scoreboard...as immature as it may seem, I am sure these kids are aware that they have a zero on the board for most of 1st half
 
I think the point was being made about DLO shooting 3's, not his overall shooting/game..There is no doubt this team needs him to score in excess of 15plus points a game.. The downside is that if he takes 13,15 or 17 shots and Greenie takes whatever he feels like taking, that's a lot of shots from low % shooters...

All of which seems to have Lavin's blessing but, that's another story.

The inside game from Sampson, Sanchez seems not to be part of Lavin's plans but, that's another story, post as well
 
Think he is a great 3 point shooter just doesn't hit a high percentage of them. :unsure:
 
Curious to know why coach brought in Marco or Hooper if he is not going to play them. If he let Hooper shoot as many 3s as greene or branch think we might have beat Wisc Can not understand why we can not penetrate ,cut and dish with the talent we have .Seems we just refuse to set picks and keep passing and moving until we get uncontested shots Every team we played so far their guards have no difficulty getting past our guards then either take a short jumper or dish for the three or drop of to one of the forwards for easy baskets That's what we should be doing Hope Rasheed starts living up to expectations he is not a one and done player
 
Curious to know why coach brought in Marco or Hooper if he is not going to play them. If he let Hooper shoot as many 3s as greene or branch think we might have beat Wisc Can not understand why we can not penetrate ,cut and dish with the talent we have .Seems we just refuse to set picks and keep passing and moving until we get uncontested shots Every team we played so far their guards have no difficulty getting past our guards then either take a short jumper or dish for the three or drop of to one of the forwards for easy baskets That's what we should be doing Hope Rasheed starts living up to expectations he is not a one and done player
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What games have you been watching? If you believe no sets has been ran, then that is your prerogative. But there isn't any truth to it.

The opposition is shooting 39% from the field and 31% behind the arc.

Here are the shots taken from behind the arc from the players you've mentioned above:

Branch is 0-1
Greene is 4-12
Hooper is 1-8

There have been too many situations where guards are getting into the lane, and we'll have to tightened that up as the season goes on.

Finally, who is this "Rasheed" you continue to speak of? Oh! Maybe, Rasheed Wallace. He's also a Philly native. I guess that is where the confusion comes in.
 
Can we start to agree that Harrison is simply a lousy three point shooter? The bottom line is that it is bad business to have someone, who shoots below 30% from the arc, chucking all of these threes.

Harrison from three this year 22.9% (this is particularly horrible)
Harrison from three last year 31.5% (well below 30% in BE competitions)

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE
There are so few picks, screens, drives to the basket. There is also very little movement without the ball. I would start rewarding those who pass with minutes.

I know I am an extremist on this topic, but I one of those fans who believe we are better without Harrison. I love his intensity, but as long as we have a coach that let's them play without much structure........happy chucking.
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What a truly stupid post. We wouldn't win 15 games if Harrison didn't take threes. He has missed some good shots early but that will even out. Look at his freshman three point %...you know the year he Brooke the all-time St. John's record for threes made in a season.

And if you think we are better without Harrison you are shot beyond repair.
 
Can we start to agree that Harrison is simply a lousy three point shooter? The bottom line is that it is bad business to have someone, who shoots below 30% from the arc, chucking all of these threes.

Harrison from three this year 22.9% (this is particularly horrible)
Harrison from three last year 31.5% (well below 30% in BE competitions)

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE
There are so few picks, screens, drives to the basket. There is also very little movement without the ball. I would start rewarding those who pass with minutes.

I know I am an extremist on this topic, but I one of those fans who believe we are better without Harrison. I love his intensity, but as long as we have a coach that let's them play without much structure........happy chucking.
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What a truly stupid post. We wouldn't win 15 games if Harrison didn't take threes. He has missed some good shots early but that will even out. Look at his freshman three point %...you know the year he Brooke the all-time St. John's record for threes made in a season.

And if you think we are better without Harrison you are shot beyond repair.
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He also has ice in his veins and hits them when they really count.
 
Can we start to agree that Harrison is simply a lousy three point shooter? The bottom line is that it is bad business to have someone, who shoots below 30% from the arc, chucking all of these threes.

Harrison from three this year 22.9% (this is particularly horrible)
Harrison from three last year 31.5% (well below 30% in BE competitions)

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE
There are so few picks, screens, drives to the basket. There is also very little movement without the ball. I would start rewarding those who pass with minutes.

I know I am an extremist on this topic, but I one of those fans who believe we are better without Harrison. I love his intensity, but as long as we have a coach that let's them play without much structure........happy chucking.
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What a truly stupid post. We wouldn't win 15 games if Harrison didn't take threes. He has missed some good shots early but that will even out. Look at his freshman three point %...you know the year he Brooke the all-time St. John's record for threes made in a season.

And if you think we are better without Harrison you are shot beyond repair.
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He also has ice in his veins and hits them when they really count.
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+1
 
Can we start to agree that Harrison is simply a lousy three point shooter? The bottom line is that it is bad business to have someone, who shoots below 30% from the arc, chucking all of these threes.

Harrison from three this year 22.9% (this is particularly horrible)
Harrison from three last year 31.5% (well below 30% in BE competitions)

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE
There are so few picks, screens, drives to the basket. There is also very little movement without the ball. I would start rewarding those who pass with minutes.

I know I am an extremist on this topic, but I one of those fans who believe we are better without Harrison. I love his intensity, but as long as we have a coach that let's them play without much structure........happy chucking.
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What a truly stupid post. We wouldn't win 15 games if Harrison didn't take threes. He has missed some good shots early but that will even out. Look at his freshman three point %...you know the year he Brooke the all-time St. John's record for threes made in a season.

And if you think we are better without Harrison you are shot beyond repair.
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He also has ice in his veins and hits them when they really count.
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That may be true, but too often the ice is in his hands. A guy can't be off for 2 seasons and still be called a deadeye shooter and NBA prospect.
 
Can we start to agree that Harrison is simply a lousy three point shooter? The bottom line is that it is bad business to have someone, who shoots below 30% from the arc, chucking all of these threes.

Harrison from three this year 22.9% (this is particularly horrible)
Harrison from three last year 31.5% (well below 30% in BE competitions)

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE
There are so few picks, screens, drives to the basket. There is also very little movement without the ball. I would start rewarding those who pass with minutes.

I know I am an extremist on this topic, but I one of those fans who believe we are better without Harrison. I love his intensity, but as long as we have a coach that let's them play without much structure........happy chucking.
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What a truly stupid post. We wouldn't win 15 games if Harrison didn't take threes. He has missed some good shots early but that will even out. Look at his freshman three point %...you know the year he Brooke the all-time St. John's record for threes made in a season.

And if you think we are better without Harrison you are shot beyond repair.
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He also has ice in his veins and hits them when they really count.
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That may be true, but too often the ice is in his hands. A guy can't be off for 2 seasons and still be called a deadeye shooter and NBA prospect.
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Who is calling him an NBA prospect?
 
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