Greg St. Jean

[quote="Beast of the East" post=339653][quote="mjmaherjr" post=339641][quote="Beast of the East" post=339568]Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant[/quote] totally understand what you are saying. The problem stems from year one Mullin doing nothing during the games and St Jean coaching. Not his fault but optics mean a lot. Also the child prodigy thing I’ll jiust relate to my biz. Saw 2 ivy leaguers who were beyond brilliant conpletey fail. Definitely debatable if they were smarter than everyone else but when you are young it takes a special personality to lead and to get people behind them and believe in them. I’ll be the first to admit starting out these people knew more than me ( barely . Lol ) but I definitely felt the pressure from them jist from mental pov. BUT they couldn’t sell ice to a Hawaiian . Their clients didn’t believe in them. I think that’s what happened with St Jean and staff. People didn’t improve so my personal opinion is they didn’t buy in[/quote]

From memory slice ran games in year one, which led to table sitting.

I just think you cant run a pro offense with college kids who need a lot more structure and direction. Plus everyone in the NBA can hit good looks from 20 feet and create their own shots. When our team played well it worked but when we didn't everyone looked lost[/quote] Nah games St Jean was in charge. Mullin and Slice actually fought over that. I know someone who's relative worked with the team. And trust me I'm the first one on the scorers table. I saw Mullin sitting there and St Jean coaching. I almost had an aneurism :)
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=339689][quote="Beast of the East" post=339653][quote="mjmaherjr" post=339641][quote="Beast of the East" post=339568]Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant[/quote] totally understand what you are saying. The problem stems from year one Mullin doing nothing during the games and St Jean coaching. Not his fault but optics mean a lot. Also the child prodigy thing I’ll jiust relate to my biz. Saw 2 ivy leaguers who were beyond brilliant conpletey fail. Definitely debatable if they were smarter than everyone else but when you are young it takes a special personality to lead and to get people behind them and believe in them. I’ll be the first to admit starting out these people knew more than me ( barely . Lol ) but I definitely felt the pressure from them jist from mental pov. BUT they couldn’t sell ice to a Hawaiian . Their clients didn’t believe in them. I think that’s what happened with St Jean and staff. People didn’t improve so my personal opinion is they didn’t buy in[/quote]

From memory slice ran games in year one, which led to table sitting.

I just think you cant run a pro offense with college kids who need a lot more structure and direction. Plus everyone in the NBA can hit good looks from 20 feet and create their own shots. When our team played well it worked but when we didn't everyone looked lost[/quote] Nah games St Jean was in charge. Mullin and Slice actually fought over that. I know someone who's relative worked with the team. And trust me I'm the first one on the scorers table. I saw Mullin sitting there and St Jean coaching. I almost had an aneurism :)[/quote]

That was a bizarre nightmare.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=339695][quote="mjmaherjr" post=339689][quote="Beast of the East" post=339653][quote="mjmaherjr" post=339641][quote="Beast of the East" post=339568]Jesus, stop with the crap already GSJ came here to be the 2nd assistant under chris and Slice. He was thrust into the role of lead assistant once Slice was fired and still on payroll. Not his fault.

I've talked with people that have attended practices and heard they are like military drills , super organized and no time wasted.

In terms of game situations he was thrown into the fire and basically ran an offense that Chris wanted , where guys were warned if they didn't shoot when open they'd be benched.

Dome of you just can't wait to completely clean house so you can take the summer off before shitting on the next staff.

I venture to guess that at his age gsj has already accomplished than most of us. So please give him a break here. He'd be fine as a second bench assistant.

For all of you who have swooned over Marcus Hatten, or D'angelo on our bench as assistants in the near future, gsj already has a resume that would be miles ahead of either. He is put in his time and is a credible assistant[/quote] totally understand what you are saying. The problem stems from year one Mullin doing nothing during the games and St Jean coaching. Not his fault but optics mean a lot. Also the child prodigy thing I’ll jiust relate to my biz. Saw 2 ivy leaguers who were beyond brilliant conpletey fail. Definitely debatable if they were smarter than everyone else but when you are young it takes a special personality to lead and to get people behind them and believe in them. I’ll be the first to admit starting out these people knew more than me ( barely . Lol ) but I definitely felt the pressure from them jist from mental pov. BUT they couldn’t sell ice to a Hawaiian . Their clients didn’t believe in them. I think that’s what happened with St Jean and staff. People didn’t improve so my personal opinion is they didn’t buy in[/quote]

From memory slice ran games in year one, which led to table sitting.

I just think you cant run a pro offense with college kids who need a lot more structure and direction. Plus everyone in the NBA can hit good looks from 20 feet and create their own shots. When our team played well it worked but when we didn't everyone looked lost[/quote] Nah games St Jean was in charge. Mullin and Slice actually fought over that. I know someone who's relative worked with the team. And trust me I'm the first one on the scorers table. I saw Mullin sitting there and St Jean coaching. I almost had an aneurism :)[/quote]

That was a bizarre nightmare.[/quote] best line the guy heard after an argument about the sideline thing during a practice . Slice " this isnt how they do it at kentucky " Chris " we aren't kentucky ". lol
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=339701][quote="redmen4life" post=339696]Simon pushing too


https://twitter.com/simon_says_so/status/1116152364002611200?s=21[/quote]

Referring to gsj? If so maybe a cluess retains Greg and Simon returns[/quote]

I doubt that would happen Beast. New coach needs all his own people and a top notch recruiter. Without the players no coach would survive. Need to reach out and show love onto Curbelo and all the local talent first. Need couple of grad transfers. A big and a point guard.
Oh, and we need a coach.;)
 
If you had access to tapes of those year 1 games. Especially the early ones , you'll see Slice with an incredulous look on his face as coaches are jumping up on the sidelines, yelling out to the players and C M is just sitting there. Slice's look goes back to Chris & there was seldom a reaction from Chris. You rarely, if ever see that happen with other college teams. It's like a traditional NO, NO for assistant coaches to be on their feet moving back & forth on the sidelines. After 4 seasons, it never changed. Don't know if we'll ever get an explanation that makes sense.
 
[quote="RICH K aka Booksnball" post=339720]If you had access to tapes of those year 1 games. Especially the early ones , you'll see Slice with an incredulous look on his face as coaches are jumping up on the sidelines, yelling out to the players and C M is just sitting there. Slice's look goes back to Chris & there was seldom a reaction from Chris. You rarely, if ever see that happen with other college teams. It's like a traditional NO, NO for assistant coaches to be on their feet moving back & forth on the sidelines. After 4 seasons, it never changed. Don't know if we'll ever get an explanation that makes sense.[/quote]

I don’t think Mullin has one. It was a horrible look for several years, amongst other things. He’s just not a coach and never really took to it very well overall. Mullin is better at playing the game than coaching. No hard feelings. It’s just the way it is.
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=339717][quote="Beast of the East" post=339701][quote="redmen4life" post=339696]Simon pushing too


https://twitter.com/simon_says_so/status/1116152364002611200?s=21[/quote]

Referring to gsj? If so maybe a cluess retains Greg and Simon returns[/quote]

I doubt that would happen Beast. New coach needs all his own people and a top notch recruiter. Without the players no coach would survive. Need to reach out and show love onto Curbelo and all the local talent first. Need couple of grad transfers. A big and a point guard.
Oh, and we need a coach.;)[/quote]

You're right of course and NBA suggestion also good possibility.
 
If we were going with GSJ you would have kept Mullin thru the end of his contract and announced GSJ as the heir.
 
Everyone coming out of the woodwork for SGJ....Jimmer Fredette, Phil Greene & D'Lo..

Really like GSJ, but can't see him in any consideration given he was part of what got us here. Would like to keep him on staff though and continue to groom him. Doubt it though, too much loyalty to Mullin and likely has other options vs. taking a step back in role/responsibility.

Jimmer Fredette
‏@jimmerfredette

If I’m @StJohnsBBall I’m for sure giving @gstjean10 a serious look at the head coaching job! I worked with Greg while in the nba and his basketball knowledge, player development, and confidence are exactly what you need in a great coach! #sjubb

Phil Greene IV
@philgreene31

I agree with both of my #SJUBB brothers. @gstjean10 should get the head coaching job. I know for a fact he works hard and is very passionate about the St.Johns program. The program would be in good hands with him being the guy. I’m behind him 100 percent.

Dangelo Harrison
‏@DeeHarrison21

@Nitodreamchaser Everybody wondering what Coach we should get. Dnt need to go far for nothing @gstjean10 is a VERY STRONG reason on the progress of SJ over the past 4years. Hard worker, passionate, well respected and extremely professional. He is the foundation of the Mullin era
 
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Speaks to how well Greg is liked by players. I wish him well at his next stop and do appreciate the energy and dedication he exhibited here.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=339819]Speaks to how well Greg is liked by players. I wish him well at his next stop and do appreciate the energy and dedication he exhibited here.[/quote]

maybe one day he returns? Who knows.
 
Unlike Mitch and Mullin, Matt and GSJ appeared to be working as hard as possible. I respect them both for that. My question would be, why were no players much better year to year if he was so good at developing them? Seems like a great hardworking guy, but didn't see any results that raised my eyebrows in any positive way.
 
[quote="Storm Tracker" post=339848]complete insanity[/quote]

What is?
Players backing him?
People saying he could come back down the road?
People saying he should stay on now?
 
I'm a big fan of GSJ and think he has an awesome future ahead of him, but what I said about Jon Scheyer applies to him as well. I don't want a first year head coach running SJU next season.
 
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