Game of Thrones

[quote="Jack Williams" post=348203][quote="Moose" post=348172]Jack- you can't have character development in the final season though.

I find the criticism to me over the top. Not saying anything you said was out there. Just seems like everyone watched the show and loved and and now last season they are expecting something different. Someone on Twitter asked what last season's of a show were actually good. I think it has to go with nobody likes their favorite show to stop. Could GOT have gone on longer? Sure. But its mucho money and the longer a series goes the harder it is to keep cast involved and engaged and paid also.

I'm sitting back and just watching unfold. I think they have another big sweeping curve up their sleeve. I don't care how quickly ppl get from Winterfell to Kings Landing. I don't care that a coffee cup appeared on a table haha. I don't care the Night King was killed in Ep 3 not 5 or 6. It's Game of Thrones. Not Winter is Coming or the Long Night. Just enjoy the ride and then see what the spinoffs are all about. Plus who knows. Maybe they leave some ends loose in GOT.[/quote]

I'm not asking for character development but I just feel like this season, while I am enjoying it, has been playing out a little too quickly and the writing has taken a dip.

Take this exchange from the last episode for example:

In the war room planning their next move after winning the Great War. Varys fills everybody in on the state of King's Landing and Cersei's army.

Varys: She (Cersei) is losing allies by the day.

Sansa: Okay, well our soldiers should rest up because a lot of them are tired and injured after surviving the Long Night

Dany: Am I supposed to just wait around while my enemy gets stronger?


Umm, what? Varys just said Cersei was losing allies by the day. Your chances of defeating your enemy are silm with the soldiers not at 100%. The only reason Dany wants to go right away is because... well the final season is 6 episodes and we need it to happen now.

I have no problem with them preferring to wrap this up quickly. But it seems they don't know how to get the characters from Point A to Point B without taking severe shortcuts. And sure, you can just ignore it and enjoy the episodes anyway. Which I have been doing. But I still notice these shortcomings and they get under my skin sometimes, especially since it is a pipe dream of mine to be a writer for TV or movies, I pay close attention to the dialogue.

That being said there has been some really great dialogue too. I loved Tormund telling Jon

"You have the North in you. The REAL North." That was great, reminded me when Jon was with Ygritte and the wildlings back in the day. Jon Snow uniting the wildings and bringing them in was one of the coolest storylines I have ever seen, in any movie or tv show. He feels so out of place caring about the Iron Throne and who sits on it. I'm rambling now. But yea[/quote]

The speeding up has pretty much been season 7 and 8. Ironically both shortened seasons in terms of episodes.

Dany is irrational though. She doesn't care that she lost half her army. She wanted to get to Cersei and her rash decision cost her one of her Dragons.

The best part is with 2 eps left I have no clue. A few good theories floating out there. Just trying to avoid spoilers which I heard are out there but unconfirmed.
 
[quote="Moose" post=348208][quote="Jack Williams" post=348203][quote="Moose" post=348172]Jack- you can't have character development in the final season though.

I find the criticism to me over the top. Not saying anything you said was out there. Just seems like everyone watched the show and loved and and now last season they are expecting something different. Someone on Twitter asked what last season's of a show were actually good. I think it has to go with nobody likes their favorite show to stop. Could GOT have gone on longer? Sure. But its mucho money and the longer a series goes the harder it is to keep cast involved and engaged and paid also.

I'm sitting back and just watching unfold. I think they have another big sweeping curve up their sleeve. I don't care how quickly ppl get from Winterfell to Kings Landing. I don't care that a coffee cup appeared on a table haha. I don't care the Night King was killed in Ep 3 not 5 or 6. It's Game of Thrones. Not Winter is Coming or the Long Night. Just enjoy the ride and then see what the spinoffs are all about. Plus who knows. Maybe they leave some ends loose in GOT.[/quote]

I'm not asking for character development but I just feel like this season, while I am enjoying it, has been playing out a little too quickly and the writing has taken a dip.

Take this exchange from the last episode for example:

In the war room planning their next move after winning the Great War. Varys fills everybody in on the state of King's Landing and Cersei's army.

Varys: She (Cersei) is losing allies by the day.

Sansa: Okay, well our soldiers should rest up because a lot of them are tired and injured after surviving the Long Night

Dany: Am I supposed to just wait around while my enemy gets stronger?


Umm, what? Varys just said Cersei was losing allies by the day. Your chances of defeating your enemy are silm with the soldiers not at 100%. The only reason Dany wants to go right away is because... well the final season is 6 episodes and we need it to happen now.

I have no problem with them preferring to wrap this up quickly. But it seems they don't know how to get the characters from Point A to Point B without taking severe shortcuts. And sure, you can just ignore it and enjoy the episodes anyway. Which I have been doing. But I still notice these shortcomings and they get under my skin sometimes, especially since it is a pipe dream of mine to be a writer for TV or movies, I pay close attention to the dialogue.

That being said there has been some really great dialogue too. I loved Tormund telling Jon

"You have the North in you. The REAL North." That was great, reminded me when Jon was with Ygritte and the wildlings back in the day. Jon Snow uniting the wildings and bringing them in was one of the coolest storylines I have ever seen, in any movie or tv show. He feels so out of place caring about the Iron Throne and who sits on it. I'm rambling now. But yea[/quote]

The speeding up has pretty much been season 7 and 8. Ironically both shortened seasons in terms of episodes.

Dany is irrational though. She doesn't care that she lost half her army. She wanted to get to Cersei and her rash decision cost her one of her Dragons.

The best part is with 2 eps left I have no clue. A few good theories floating out there. Just trying to avoid spoilers which I heard are out there but unconfirmed.[/quote] Jack I’m with Team Moose Landing on this one. The Dany thing imo was to point to her becoming irrational. I hope they don’t turn her to the dark side by the end unless they give me one more nude scene with her and no body doubles
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=348223][quote="Moose" post=348208][quote="Jack Williams" post=348203][quote="Moose" post=348172]Jack- you can't have character development in the final season though.

I find the criticism to me over the top. Not saying anything you said was out there. Just seems like everyone watched the show and loved and and now last season they are expecting something different. Someone on Twitter asked what last season's of a show were actually good. I think it has to go with nobody likes their favorite show to stop. Could GOT have gone on longer? Sure. But its mucho money and the longer a series goes the harder it is to keep cast involved and engaged and paid also.

I'm sitting back and just watching unfold. I think they have another big sweeping curve up their sleeve. I don't care how quickly ppl get from Winterfell to Kings Landing. I don't care that a coffee cup appeared on a table haha. I don't care the Night King was killed in Ep 3 not 5 or 6. It's Game of Thrones. Not Winter is Coming or the Long Night. Just enjoy the ride and then see what the spinoffs are all about. Plus who knows. Maybe they leave some ends loose in GOT.[/quote]

I'm not asking for character development but I just feel like this season, while I am enjoying it, has been playing out a little too quickly and the writing has taken a dip.

Take this exchange from the last episode for example:

In the war room planning their next move after winning the Great War. Varys fills everybody in on the state of King's Landing and Cersei's army.

Varys: She (Cersei) is losing allies by the day.

Sansa: Okay, well our soldiers should rest up because a lot of them are tired and injured after surviving the Long Night

Dany: Am I supposed to just wait around while my enemy gets stronger?


Umm, what? Varys just said Cersei was losing allies by the day. Your chances of defeating your enemy are silm with the soldiers not at 100%. The only reason Dany wants to go right away is because... well the final season is 6 episodes and we need it to happen now.

I have no problem with them preferring to wrap this up quickly. But it seems they don't know how to get the characters from Point A to Point B without taking severe shortcuts. And sure, you can just ignore it and enjoy the episodes anyway. Which I have been doing. But I still notice these shortcomings and they get under my skin sometimes, especially since it is a pipe dream of mine to be a writer for TV or movies, I pay close attention to the dialogue.

That being said there has been some really great dialogue too. I loved Tormund telling Jon

"You have the North in you. The REAL North." That was great, reminded me when Jon was with Ygritte and the wildlings back in the day. Jon Snow uniting the wildings and bringing them in was one of the coolest storylines I have ever seen, in any movie or tv show. He feels so out of place caring about the Iron Throne and who sits on it. I'm rambling now. But yea[/quote]

The speeding up has pretty much been season 7 and 8. Ironically both shortened seasons in terms of episodes.

Dany is irrational though. She doesn't care that she lost half her army. She wanted to get to Cersei and her rash decision cost her one of her Dragons.

The best part is with 2 eps left I have no clue. A few good theories floating out there. Just trying to avoid spoilers which I heard are out there but unconfirmed.[/quote] Jack I’m with Team Moose Landing on this one. The Dany thing imo was to point to her becoming irrational. I hope they don’t turn her to the dark side by the end unless they give me one more nude scene with her and no body doubles[/quote]

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I will say that I keep reading and seeing thinkpiece articles/videos about how GoT ruined the Night King and i dont agree.

This one guy, the crux of his argument was "they built him up as a villain for 68 episodes all for him to die in 1"

Since when is what happened in Hardhome a "build up"? Since when is them going beyond the wall and him killing a dragon "build up"? Those battles were both lost by the humans, especially when you consider that them getting an undead didnt even work in getting Cersei to help them. In any other show or film, if you lose to the enemy twice and then win the third fight against them, almost everyone is fine with it and satisfied. But not GoT fans. Because they are a miserable bunch who would rather spend an evening in a Motel 6 with George RR Martin than not complain about every little detail of the last season.

And I know I have complained at times myself but ugh it gets ridiculous sometimes
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=348338]I will say that I keep reading and seeing thinkpiece articles/videos about how GoT ruined the Night King and i dont agree.

This one guy, the crux of his argument was "they built him up as a villain for 68 episodes all for him to die in 1"

Since when is what happened in Hardhome a "build up"? Since when is them going beyond the wall and him killing a dragon "build up"? Those battles were both lost by the humans, especially when you consider that them getting an undead didnt even work in getting Cersei to help them. In any other show or film, if you lose to the enemy twice and then win the third fight against them, almost everyone is fine with it and satisfied. But not GoT fans. Because they are a miserable bunch who would rather spend an evening in a Motel 6 with George RR Martin than not complain about every little detail of the last season.

And I know I have complained at times myself but ugh it gets ridiculous sometimes[/quote]

Nice Jack
Also for those who speak about the Night King I'm pretty sure he didn't appear until Season 4 episode 4. Unlike Cersei who was ironically a bitch since episode 1.
 
First Ed Sheeran now Aaron Rodgers? I can take a lot of things on this show that ppl have legit complaints about but this is to much for me. I have officially sh#t the bed on this show. Good day sir.
 
have really high hopes for the episode this weekend. Looks like the battle will take place during the day so none of the darkness issues we saw with the Long Night.

Jon Snow does not have a dragon so we get to see him on the ground being a badass i.e. Battle of the Bastards.

Arya and The Hound going off on their own to try and kill Mountain and Cersei is going to be extremely interesting to watch.

PREDICTION: Battle ensues. Arya sneaks into Kings Landing to kill Cersei while Hound fights Mountain. Dany flies in all pissed off because of Missandei and with her last dragon sets all of Kings Landing on fire. Arya dies. Cersei dies.

Jon sees kings landing burning down, he finds out arya died in the fire, and he then realizes what a monster (mad queen) Dany has become. Final episode is him having to go against her.
 
[quote="Knight" post=348608]Arya kills Cersei with Ned Stark's face.[/quote]

A guy who’s been known dead for seemingly years?
 
[quote="Moose" post=348201][quote="sirvoo" post=348200][quote="Moose" post=348174]HBO is big on those 70 something hours or whatever. Same happened with Sopranos where they limited that as well. Gotta play in the sandbox you are placed in. It's a race to the finish. George's books might fill in the blanks but he's been adamant they are going to finish the show the way the books will end. He can add the fluff when he gets around to it.[/quote]

Respectfully have to disagree 100% Moose! Assuming George ever finishes the books (doubtful), he will be working against all the fluff from the show’s last 2 seasons. To me all I’m watching is fluff out there!

What was the Night King’s Motive!? How do you not make that abundantly clear after all these years of buildup? So many questions and so few real answers if you ask me.[/quote]

By fluff I meant the things that will lead up to these rushed outcomes. Like I doubt we see Arya and the Hound on the road. When we see them I'm sure they will be getting to Kings Landing.

Remember the spin offs are in the works. Maybe they address Night King then ?

I haven't read the books. Tried and was bored to tears. My understanding is the Night King hasn't even appeared in the books ?[/quote]

The books have a “night’s king” that isn’t exactly a direct representation but obviously the inspiration.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=348677][quote="Knight" post=348608]Arya kills Cersei with Ned Stark's face.[/quote]

A guy who’s been known dead for seemingly years?[/quote]

I should have said, Arya, wearing Ned Stark's face, kills Cersei.
 
[quote="Knight" post=348680][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=348677][quote="Knight" post=348608]Arya kills Cersei with Ned Stark's face.[/quote]

A guy who’s been known dead for seemingly years?[/quote]

I should have said, Arya, wearing Ned Stark's face, kills Cersei.[/quote]

Haha no I know what you meant I just don’t think using Ned starks face would make sense because everyone in the whole seven kingdoms knows he’s been dead for a while.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=348682][quote="Knight" post=348680][quote="Amaseinyourface" post=348677][quote="Knight" post=348608]Arya kills Cersei with Ned Stark's face.[/quote]

A guy who’s been known dead for seemingly years?[/quote]

I should have said, Arya, wearing Ned Stark's face, kills Cersei.[/quote]

Haha no I know what you meant I just don’t think using Ned starks face would make sense because everyone in the whole seven kingdoms knows he’s been dead for a while.[/quote]

I think it would be epic if the face was revealed when she kills Cersei and even more so with Jaime together...

Jamie is a total douche. He had to ruin Tormund's dreams :whistle: then leaves her anyway. But as much as I like your scenario, it seems that one of her brothers is destined to kill Cersei. Prophecy said that her little brother would choke her to death. Little is obvious but Jaime is also her younger/little brother...
 
Again didn’t love the episode.

The starks vs the targaryians to finish it out.

A grey worm / Jon battle seems imminent.
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=348602]have really high hopes for the episode this weekend. Looks like the battle will take place during the day so none of the darkness issues we saw with the Long Night.

Jon Snow does not have a dragon so we get to see him on the ground being a badass i.e. Battle of the Bastards.

Arya and The Hound going off on their own to try and kill Mountain and Cersei is going to be extremely interesting to watch.

PREDICTION: Battle ensues. Arya sneaks into Kings Landing to kill Cersei while Hound fights Mountain. Dany flies in all pissed off because of Missandei and with her last dragon sets all of Kings Landing on fire. Arya dies. Cersei dies.

Jon sees kings landing burning down, he finds out arya died in the fire, and he then realizes what a monster (mad queen) Dany has become. Final episode is him having to go against her.[/quote]

Other than Arya surviving I pretty much had this
 
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