Game of Thrones

Damn not feeling confident in my game of thrones death pool. Castle Maher with Cersei,Grey Worm and Sam Tarly but I’m tied with a team with the hound, Jamie and Sir Davos And a team with Brienne, Bronn abd Dany and a team with Euron,Tormund and Podrick
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=348012]Damn not feeling confident in my game of thrones death pool. Castle Maher with Cersei,Grey Worm and Sam Tarly but I’m tied with a team with the hound, Jamie and Sir Davos And a team with Brienne, Bronn abd Dany and a team with Euron,Tormund and Podrick[/quote]

Sam will survive. But man your other two are tough. I don't see Grey Worm surviving the rampage he is about to go on next episode. He will kill a ton of people but eventually fall. Cersei, probably going to die as well
 
Understand they are trying to wrap it up and I’m 100% hooked and committed to the end but I don’t love how they have sped things up. This last episode would have been stretched over 4-5 in the earlier seasons. Jon tells his sisters the biggest secret in the world and the next scene Sana’a tells Tyrion?? and the scene after that Tyrion and Varys are talking about it. Too quick for me.

I don’t want to see Jon on the thrown at the end but at this point I feel they will try to trick us/me into liking it. Kinda how many sju fans wanted Cluess as soon as it looked like they were getting porter moser.

I need more Ser Davos!
 
I'd rank #4 as my least favorite /most disappointing episode of the entire series and agree with Amase' sentiment about being unfortunately sped up. One point ticked me off which I will put as a spoiler here in case someone hasn't seen it:
The idea that these massive harpoons are so deadly shot from a moving ship at a flying/moving target is less realistic to me than the concept of flying dragons... but worse to me was why didn't she just fly past the ships and burn them all from the rear? No way they could turn quick enough to fire at her.
 
[quote="Paul Massell" post=348053]I'd rank #4 as my least favorite /most disappointing episode of the entire series and agree with Amase' sentiment about being unfortunately sped up. One point ticked me off which I will put as a spoiler here in case someone hasn't seen it:
The idea that these massive harpoons are so deadly shot from a moving ship at a flying/moving target is less realistic to me than the concept of flying dragons... but worse to me was why didn't she just fly past the ships and burn them all from the rear? No way they could turn quick enough to fire at her.
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Because they had massive harpoons on both sides of the ships?

Episode had some really great moments (who took a shit in Tormund's pants?), but definitely some weak ones as well.

Wish the book(s) would eventually come out, but I think we'll never see those at this point.
 
[quote="mkras99" post=348057][quote="Paul Massell" post=348053]I'd rank #4 as my least favorite /most disappointing episode of the entire series and agree with Amase' sentiment about being unfortunately sped up. One point ticked me off which I will put as a spoiler here in case someone hasn't seen it:
The idea that these massive harpoons are so deadly shot from a moving ship at a flying/moving target is less realistic to me than the concept of flying dragons... but worse to me was why didn't she just fly past the ships and burn them all from the rear? No way they could turn quick enough to fire at her.
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Because they had massive harpoons on both sides of the ships?

Episode had some really great moments (who took a shit in Tormund's pants?), but definitely some weak ones as well.

Wish the book(s) would eventually come out, but I think we'll never see those at this point.[/quote]

There are no harpoons on the back of the ships but even so hitting a flying dragon three shots in a row is pretty much impossible. The best sniper's in the world using the best sniper rifles could not make one of those shots without a ton of luck. Making three in a row with a giant medieval crossbow from a rocking ship is a joke.
 
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[quote="Jack Williams" post=348050][quote="mjmaherjr" post=348012]Damn not feeling confident in my game of thrones death pool. Castle Maher with Cersei,Grey Worm and Sam Tarly but I’m tied with a team with the hound, Jamie and Sir Davos And a team with Brienne, Bronn abd Dany and a team with Euron,Tormund and Podrick[/quote]

Sam will survive. But man your other two are tough. I don't see Grey Worm surviving the rampage he is about to go on next episode. He will kill a ton of people but eventually fall. Cersei, probably going to die as well[/quote] yeah if I were picking I think the guy with the Hound Sir Davos And Jamie wins
 
[quote="mkras99" post=348057]
Episode had some really great moments (who took a shit in Tormund's pants?), but definitely some weak ones as well.
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He's definitely a scene stealer. The production and acting in this series is better than most feature movies I'm just disappointed that this season feels so rushed and forced at times. Ep 3 was good but the dark quality of the video was annoying and the Night King/Bran story line feels incomplete as with a lot right now. Doesn't seem like there is much time to do many of the story lines justice.
 
[quote="Paul Massell" post=348068][quote="mkras99" post=348057]
Episode had some really great moments (who took a shit in Tormund's pants?), but definitely some weak ones as well.
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He's definitely a scene stealer. The production and acting in this series is better than most feature movies I'm just disappointed that this season feels so rushed and forced at times. Ep 3 was good but the dark quality of the video was annoying and the Night King/Bran story line feels incomplete as with a lot right now. Doesn't seem like there is much time to do many of the story lines justice.[/quote]

Which is why I’d really like to see Martin finish the books (and what he started). So much more depth there. Think he’s shot though - lost control of his story/baby and just doesn’t know where to go/how to finish the books.
 
I’ve held back my criticism as promised but you can only be so underwhelming as a show! Can someone please explain to me how Viserion took down THE WALL in season 7, but last week he could not take out the tiny boulder Jon snow was hiding behind? Love the chai tea latte that made a cameo last night in front of Dany. Loved that scene last night where Jon Snow made Sansa and Arya pinky swear about his secret smh. Writers have killed the show the past 1.5 seasons!
 
[quote="sirvoo" post=348071]I’ve held back my criticism as promised but you can only be so underwhelming as a show! Can someone please explain to me how Viserion took down THE WALL in season 7, but last week he could not take out the tiny boulder Jon snow was hiding behind? Love the chai tea latte that made a cameo last night in front of Dany. Loved that scene last night where Jon Snow made Sansa and Arya pinky swear about his secret smh. Writers have killed the show the past 1.5 seasons![/quote]


Yea but The Wall is made of ice. John was behind stone.
 
Overall still entertaining. Some of the earlier seasons are undoubtedly the best television you’ll find.

Hard for them to maintain that level and at this point you hope they don’t stumble any further across the finish line.
 
Sansa has gotten tougher, but I like Arya to win.
 
This season has been rushed too much for my liking. It feels like they have a great idea for the finale and just want to get to it and did not take their time with any of the details that gets you to the end.

Season 6 Episode 9 - Battle of the Bastards and Season 6 Episode 10 - Winds of Winter were the peak of this show.

Back to back top 5 episodes in the shows entire run. The Season 6 finale had so much payoff from things that GRRM built in his books. Jon Snow made king in the north, revealed Lyanna Stark is his mother. Arya kills Walder Frey. Cersei blows up all those awaiting her trial. The soft king Tommen jumps out the window. Dany finally sets sail for Westeros.

Everything that was great about the show for many years was paid off in that episode.

Season 7, the slate was clean, and they did not really know where to go from there. They did some things well, I still think Jon and Dany meeting for the first time is one of the most important scenes in the whole show. If you go back and watch, the dialogue is well done and lays the groundwork for the parallels between Jon and Dany as rulers and who would be the better one. The season 7 finale when they bring the undead to show Cersei, was very good.

Season 8? The one true great episode of this season was the 2nd one. When they are waiting for the Long Night to begin. Some awesome moments between characters.

I liked The Long Night also. It was quite the spectacle and very entertaining. But now that it is over and they are just right back to the war with Cersei, I feel like the way they are rushing this is diminishing what the Long Night was.

If this were a regular, 10 episode season of Thrones, they would have multiple episodes of recovering from the Long Night.

With all this said, I bet these last two episodes are really good. Like I said it seems the writers have just been rushing to get to this point. Now that we are here I think the show will really end on a high note
 
Jack- you can't have character development in the final season though.

I find the criticism to me over the top. Not saying anything you said was out there. Just seems like everyone watched the show and loved and and now last season they are expecting something different. Someone on Twitter asked what last season's of a show were actually good. I think it has to go with nobody likes their favorite show to stop. Could GOT have gone on longer? Sure. But its mucho money and the longer a series goes the harder it is to keep cast involved and engaged and paid also.

I'm sitting back and just watching unfold. I think they have another big sweeping curve up their sleeve. I don't care how quickly ppl get from Winterfell to Kings Landing. I don't care that a coffee cup appeared on a table haha. I don't care the Night King was killed in Ep 3 not 5 or 6. It's Game of Thrones. Not Winter is Coming or the Long Night. Just enjoy the ride and then see what the spinoffs are all about. Plus who knows. Maybe they leave some ends loose in GOT.
 
HBO is big on those 70 something hours or whatever. Same happened with Sopranos where they limited that as well. Gotta play in the sandbox you are placed in. It's a race to the finish. George's books might fill in the blanks but he's been adamant they are going to finish the show the way the books will end. He can add the fluff when he gets around to it.
 
[quote="Moose" post=348174]HBO is big on those 70 something hours or whatever. Same happened with Sopranos where they limited that as well. Gotta play in the sandbox you are placed in. It's a race to the finish. George's books might fill in the blanks but he's been adamant they are going to finish the show the way the books will end. He can add the fluff when he gets around to it.[/quote]

Respectfully have to disagree 100% Moose! Assuming George ever finishes the books (doubtful), he will be working against all the fluff from the show’s last 2 seasons. To me all I’m watching is fluff out there!

What was the Night King’s Motive!? How do you not make that abundantly clear after all these years of buildup? So many questions and so few real answers if you ask me.
 
[quote="sirvoo" post=348200][quote="Moose" post=348174]HBO is big on those 70 something hours or whatever. Same happened with Sopranos where they limited that as well. Gotta play in the sandbox you are placed in. It's a race to the finish. George's books might fill in the blanks but he's been adamant they are going to finish the show the way the books will end. He can add the fluff when he gets around to it.[/quote]

Respectfully have to disagree 100% Moose! Assuming George ever finishes the books (doubtful), he will be working against all the fluff from the show’s last 2 seasons. To me all I’m watching is fluff out there!

What was the Night King’s Motive!? How do you not make that abundantly clear after all these years of buildup? So many questions and so few real answers if you ask me.[/quote]

By fluff I meant the things that will lead up to these rushed outcomes. Like I doubt we see Arya and the Hound on the road. When we see them I'm sure they will be getting to Kings Landing.

Remember the spin offs are in the works. Maybe they address Night King then ?

I haven't read the books. Tried and was bored to tears. My understanding is the Night King hasn't even appeared in the books ?
 
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[quote="Moose" post=348172]Jack- you can't have character development in the final season though.

I find the criticism to me over the top. Not saying anything you said was out there. Just seems like everyone watched the show and loved and and now last season they are expecting something different. Someone on Twitter asked what last season's of a show were actually good. I think it has to go with nobody likes their favorite show to stop. Could GOT have gone on longer? Sure. But its mucho money and the longer a series goes the harder it is to keep cast involved and engaged and paid also.

I'm sitting back and just watching unfold. I think they have another big sweeping curve up their sleeve. I don't care how quickly ppl get from Winterfell to Kings Landing. I don't care that a coffee cup appeared on a table haha. I don't care the Night King was killed in Ep 3 not 5 or 6. It's Game of Thrones. Not Winter is Coming or the Long Night. Just enjoy the ride and then see what the spinoffs are all about. Plus who knows. Maybe they leave some ends loose in GOT.[/quote]

I'm not asking for character development but I just feel like this season, while I am enjoying it, has been playing out a little too quickly and the writing has taken a dip.

Take this exchange from the last episode for example:

In the war room planning their next move after winning the Great War. Varys fills everybody in on the state of King's Landing and Cersei's army.

Varys: She (Cersei) is losing allies by the day.

Sansa: Okay, well our soldiers should rest up because a lot of them are tired and injured after surviving the Long Night

Dany: Am I supposed to just wait around while my enemy gets stronger?


Umm, what? Varys just said Cersei was losing allies by the day. Your chances of defeating your enemy are silm with the soldiers not at 100%. The only reason Dany wants to go right away is because... well the final season is 6 episodes and we need it to happen now.

I have no problem with them preferring to wrap this up quickly. But it seems they don't know how to get the characters from Point A to Point B without taking severe shortcuts. And sure, you can just ignore it and enjoy the episodes anyway. Which I have been doing. But I still notice these shortcomings and they get under my skin sometimes, especially since it is a pipe dream of mine to be a writer for TV or movies, I pay close attention to the dialogue.

That being said there has been some really great dialogue too. I loved Tormund telling Jon

"You have the North in you. The REAL North." That was great, reminded me when Jon was with Ygritte and the wildlings back in the day. Jon Snow uniting the wildings and bringing them in was one of the coolest storylines I have ever seen, in any movie or tv show. He feels so out of place caring about the Iron Throne and who sits on it. I'm rambling now. But yea
 
[quote="Moose" post=348201][quote="sirvoo" post=348200][quote="Moose" post=348174]HBO is big on those 70 something hours or whatever. Same happened with Sopranos where they limited that as well. Gotta play in the sandbox you are placed in. It's a race to the finish. George's books might fill in the blanks but he's been adamant they are going to finish the show the way the books will end. He can add the fluff when he gets around to it.[/quote]

Respectfully have to disagree 100% Moose! Assuming George ever finishes the books (doubtful), he will be working against all the fluff from the show’s last 2 seasons. To me all I’m watching is fluff out there!

What was the Night King’s Motive!? How do you not make that abundantly clear after all these years of buildup? So many questions and so few real answers if you ask me.[/quote]

By fluff I meant the things that will lead up to these rushed outcomes. Like I doubt we see Arya and the Hound on the road. When we see them I'm sure they will be getting to Kings Landing.

Remember the spin offs are in the works. Maybe they address Night King then ?

I haven't read the books. Tried and was bored to tears. My understanding is the Night King hasn't even appeared in the books ?[/quote]

Ah I see what you’re saying now. I believe you are correct NK is not in the books as of yet.

Also a great point that these spinoffs are a major factor in us not getting all of the answers in this final season. Kind of lame but who wouldn’t sell out for the big bucks
 
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