Fordham vs. SJ Official Game Thread

That was one of the worst tasting wins I've ever experienced. 33% shooting 20% for most of the 1st half...INEXCUSABLE. We continue the trend of making 1 opposing player look like a HOFer, another terrible start, dominated on boards again, and ice cold shooting.

Obekpa and Sampson the only bright spots...everyone else should be practicing for hours on their shot.
 
Sooo....new all-time single game block record for Obekpa - 11. 49 now in 9 games. A reminder, the all time single SEASON record at SJU is 76. At his current rate he breaks it in his 14th game.
 
That was one of the worst tasting wins I've ever experienced. 33% shooting 20% for most of the 1st half...INEXCUSABLE. We continue the trend of making 1 opposing player look like a HOFer, another terrible start, dominated on boards again, and ice cold shooting.

Obekpa and Sampson the only bright spots...everyone else should be practicing for hours on their shot.
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Obekpa needs to practice his foul shots as much as anyone to be fair
 
That was one of the worst tasting wins I've ever experienced. 33% shooting 20% for most of the 1st half...INEXCUSABLE. We continue the trend of making 1 opposing player look like a HOFer, another terrible start, dominated on boards again, and ice cold shooting.

Obekpa and Sampson the only bright spots...everyone else should be practicing for hours on their shot.
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Obekpa needs to practice his foul shots as much as anyone to be fair
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Sure, but his main job is not to shoot well, it's to swat and he did that today. Our shooters need to start shooting. We really need to work on getting inside too. We settle way too much for terrible off balance shots. We better work on fast breaks as well...a fast break for us is not automatic which is terrible. We either get out of control during them and lose it, or we have a 3 on 1 and don't pass to the open man or go for the highlight dunk instead of the sure layup.
 
It's nice seeing Sampson hitting from FG's from the foul line , it'll clear out things underneath if he keeps it up.
 
That was one of the worst tasting wins I've ever experienced. 33% shooting 20% for most of the 1st half...INEXCUSABLE. We continue the trend of making 1 opposing player look like a HOFer, another terrible start, dominated on boards again, and ice cold shooting.

Obekpa and Sampson the only bright spots...everyone else should be practicing for hours on their shot.
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Obekpa needs to practice his foul shots as much as anyone to be fair
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He also needs to practice his boxing out.
 
Unfortunately, this team reminds me a lot of the Brian Mahoney-coached 1994-1995 team that finished 14-14.

Top recruits on paper (Felipe, Zendon, Tarik) but they just couldn't put it together on the floor.

This team is giving career nights to inferior talent and relying on second half surges to win games.

This will not fly in the least during Big East play.

I have tempered my expectations of this team because of the last 3 games. It would be one thing if there was improvement in certain areas. But the problem is that they are fundamental issues and you just can't flip a switch on those. It is up to the team if they want to unlearn bad habits or the staff turns into drill sergeants and runs them through killer drills to correct them.

But it's not looking good.

And lastly, They need a "veteran" on the floor. D'Angelo is not emotionally mature enough to be a leader on this team. And I'm not talking about basketball skills.
 
Unfortunately, this team reminds me a lot of the Brian Mahoney-coached 1994-1995 team that finished 14-14.

Top recruits on paper (Felipe, Zendon, Tarik) but they just couldn't put it together on the floor.

This team is giving career nights to inferior talent and relying on second half surges to win games.

This will not fly in the least during Big East play.

I have tempered my expectations of this team because of the last 3 games. It would be one thing if there was improvement in certain areas. But the problem is that they are fundamental issues and you just can't flip a switch on those. It is up to the team if they want to unlearn bad habits or the staff turns into drill sergeants and runs them through killer drills to correct them.

But it's not looking good.


My prediction earlier is if we win 15 we are doing good Why did we bring Marco on board For 2 mins a game was it worth it Whats up with that
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Unfortunately, this team reminds me a lot of the Brian Mahoney-coached 1994-1995 team that finished 14-14.

Top recruits on paper (Felipe, Zendon, Tarik) but they just couldn't put it together on the floor.

This team is giving career nights to inferior talent and relying on second half surges to win games.

This will not fly in the least during Big East play.

I have tempered my expectations of this team because of the last 3 games. It would be one thing if there was improvement in certain areas. But the problem is that they are fundamental issues and you just can't flip a switch on those. It is up to the team if they want to unlearn bad habits or the staff turns into drill sergeants and runs them through killer drills to correct them.

But it's not looking good.
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My prediction earlier is if we win 15 we are doing good Why did we bring Marco on board For 2 mins a game was it worth it Whats up with that
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I have no idea. At least they ran one play for him tonight.
Lavin trusts a certain rotation to a fault. Floor spacing is terrible on the offensive end. Plenty of times you'll see Jakarr in the high post and D'Angelo on the baseline. You would think it would be reversed.
 
Obekpa's defense is the basketball of equivalent of an all-out blitz right now...if he doesn't get there the team is screwed. Obekpa and the rest of our guys allowed Canty to maintain position all night long. Fordham got off a ton of chippies that went unblocked. It seems like if you take it straight at Obekpa aggressively you will get an easy layup, but if you pump-fake, jump stop, or try to finesse it, it's coming right back at you.
 
Unfortunately, this team reminds me a lot of the Brian Mahoney-coached 1994-1995 team that finished 14-14.

Top recruits on paper (Felipe, Zendon, Tarik) but they just couldn't put it together on the floor.

This team is giving career nights to inferior talent and relying on second half surges to win games.

This will not fly in the least during Big East play.

I have tempered my expectations of this team because of the last 3 games. It would be one thing if there was improvement in certain areas. But the problem is that they are fundamental issues and you just can't flip a switch on those. It is up to the team if they want to unlearn bad habits or the staff turns into drill sergeants and runs them through killer drills to correct them.

But it's not looking good.
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My prediction earlier is if we win 15 we are doing good Why did we bring Marco on board For 2 mins a game was it worth it Whats up with that
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I have no idea. At least they ran one play for him tonight.
Lavin trusts a certain rotation to a fault. Floor spacing is terrible on the offensive end. Plenty of times you'll see Jakarr in the high post and D'Angelo on the baseline. You would think it would be reversed.
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what do we do when we face a talented team There are so my areas that need fixing Hope improvement comes soon
 
I don't think it was that bad, the players were joking at the end. Look for improvement in spurts. That's all you can do. Remember this game is like the Holy Grail to Fordham. These contests with locals will always be this way.
Move on to St. Francis who got blown out tonight., but San Francisco lost at Pacific by 8. (on the road)
 
At this point Salty, I don't think I can say we have a definite win anywhere in our schedule. Until this team proves it can clearly outplay much worse competition, I wouldn't even get cocky against a bottom level mid major. The real good teams blow out the SF's, NJIT's, and Holy Cross' of the world. Clearly we are far from a legitimately good team. I think a good label for this SJ team is "loose, but dangerous". We don't play at a high level consistently, but we can also go out and beat almost any team in the country any given night. We will lose games like SF, and maybe St. Francis then go beat G'Town or the like. What I see from this team is you get what you get each night as its own package. This is the kind of team you can't predict with trends or stats...they will beat great teams some days and lose shockingly pathetic games others. Let's hope to get most of our "hot" games against big time Big East foes.
 
outrebounded 50-29? If i wasnt an eyewitness to what a pitiful effort we gave on the boards I would never believe that.
 
At this point Salty, I don't think I can say we have a definite win anywhere in our schedule. Until this team proves it can clearly outplay much worse competition, I wouldn't even get cocky against a bottom level mid major. The real good teams blow out the SF's, NJIT's, and Holy Cross' of the world. Clearly we are far from a legitimately good team. I think a good label for this SJ team is "loose, but dangerous". We don't play at a high level consistently, but we can also go out and beat almost any team in the country any given night. We will lose games like SF, and maybe St. Francis then go beat G'Town or the like. What I see from this team is you get what you get each night as its own package. This is the kind of team you can't predict with trends or stats...they will beat great teams some days and lose shockingly pathetic games others. Let's hope to get most of our "hot" games against big time Big East foes.
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What exactly have you seen in this team that makes you think "we can also go out and beat almost any team in the country any given night?". Would if it were true, but this team has given no indication of that.
 
At this point Salty, I don't think I can say we have a definite win anywhere in our schedule. Until this team proves it can clearly outplay much worse competition, I wouldn't even get cocky against a bottom level mid major. The real good teams blow out the SF's, NJIT's, and Holy Cross' of the world. Clearly we are far from a legitimately good team. I think a good label for this SJ team is "loose, but dangerous". We don't play at a high level consistently, but we can also go out and beat almost any team in the country any given night. We will lose games like SF, and maybe St. Francis then go beat G'Town or the like. What I see from this team is you get what you get each night as its own package. This is the kind of team you can't predict with trends or stats...they will beat great teams some days and lose shockingly pathetic games others. Let's hope to get most of our "hot" games against big time Big East foes.
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What exactly have you seen in this team that makes you think "we can also go out and beat almost any team in the country any given night?". Would if it were true, but this team has given no indication of that.
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We are wildly inconsistent, but there's no doubt there are some nights we will shoot teams out of the gym. Look at the Baylor game ranked 16 at the time. If Baylor didn't have an absolutely ridiculous night from behind the arc, that game is ours. Lately they haven't been falling, but when Marco and D'Lo are nailing their 3's with Greene and Sampson nailing jumpers, we will beat some very good teams in an upset. I don't think there's any question we have the ability to be a very hot shooting team. Mark my words...a very good opponent we face at some point will have an off day and we will shoot them out of the gym, lose the rebounding battle, but play just decent enough defense to pull off an upset. If last year's team could beat a sweet 16 Cincy team, a ranked ND team, and nearly Duke, this year's team can put together a few hot games. Like I said though, we will not be consistent at all and will lose to plenty of teams we should beat. Opponents sleep on us at their peril though.
 
Pecora is a much better coach than Lavin. St. Johns has twice the amount of talent that Fordham has.
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Pecora is overrated..He was not able to win anything at Hofstra and has doen absoluetly nothing at Fordham...Our performance in this game had nothing to do with anything he did.
 
That was one of the worst tasting wins I've ever experienced. 33% shooting 20% for most of the 1st half...INEXCUSABLE. We continue the trend of making 1 opposing player look like a HOFer, another terrible start, dominated on boards again, and ice cold shooting.

Obekpa and Sampson the only bright spots...everyone else should be practicing for hours on their shot.
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Obekpa needs to practice his foul shots as much as anyone to be fair
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Someone needs to show him where the foul line is...He shoots a 17 foot foul shot (unlike the normal 15 footer) and they need to stick a pitchfork in his back so he doesnt fade away.
 
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