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Felix was a better find than Jones IMO and it's not even close. He is very motivated and stays with his man defensively, he blocks shots, he is fast, he can jump up and get rebounds, he can shoot, he can dunk, he can handle the ball, etc. I'm not going to lie I thought he would be nothing special...boy am I happy to eat crow :) one heaping portion for me please.

The staff recruited Obekpa for at least a year. Probably saw him for much more than that because they were involved with one of his teammates in the prior year.

That means they saw Felix just as much. Heck, when I saw OSNA play, Felix clearly stood out on the court. Felix was even OSNA's leading scorer. And Felix was being heavily recruited by UConn.

Jones was out of state. Probably talked about by Harrison and Branch from seeing him in Texas and possibly word of mouth from Phil Greene. Also may have gotten wind from Harkless or Nate Blue while they were training at IMG getting ready for the Draft Combine. Jones recruitment looks like it was the perfect storm and one of the true benefits of having a national recruiting base.

Explain how Felix was a better find when the staff clearly saw more of him?

Pretty simple, Felix is the much better all around player and it's not really that close. Felix shoots better, blocks better (and like 4 inches shorter than Jones), defends better, handles better, rebounds better, etc. What are you seeing that makes you think Jones is better? Felix is way better than most people thought and Jones is ok not great.

Is this a joke? Balamou and Jones are 6 games into their collegiate career. Why don't we give them a half a season or better yet a full season before we declare them "ok not great".

I actually really like what I'm seeing from both players. They are athletic and aggressive out there. With the right coaching, they are going to be big time contributors for the team.
 
Thank god we made up that gap...the way we are playing I'll take being tied at half anyday. With that being said, I don't get it...I really don't so can someone clear this up for me? WHY are our opponents rebounding juggernauts? Or to put it another way, why are we so terrible? Athleticism is our thing, not FGCU's thing. We should be feasting on boards. If Harrison doesn't get going in the 2nd half and we don't start getting stops on D, this game is the one I pick that we drop in the cupcake OOC matchups. Hope to god I'm wrong but we have never even led.

Because Rebounding is about technique and desire. Athleticism plays little if any part of it.

The Gift experiment is old. He tore up OOC play last year. He doesn't deserve this kind of treatment.

He is getting a masters degree for free so I don't think he minds too much. Let him get his education because he probably will not be a pro anywhere.

You have no idea if he minds or not. If the NCAA drags this out and declares Sanchez ineligible in January, what's the point of suiting Gift up with half a season left? I'm sure it's eating him up to have to sit there and not be able to compete and not even being injured. Most athletes would, master's degree or not.

He is all about the team. And he was told the team needs him more next season.

His family was coerced into this.

I give it to him to sit by and not cause drama. But the notions being suggested that he is somewhat happy with this treatment is bogus.

The team needs him more next season? What happens if/when Sanchez is declared ineligible this season? What happens if one of our bigs get inured for an extended period of time this season?

Let's not act as if the staff had some crystal ball and could look into the future. Gift is being strung along by none of his own doing but because the fate of another player. I'm sure if any of you all had a promotion lined up at your job but was told to wait a year because another employee was not available yet to get into your department, you'd feel shafted in some sort of way.

Are you serious? Let's put you in Nigeria for most of your life then bring you to America and see if your priority in life is finding minutes in a basketball game. Before basketball comes livelihood, and quality of life at the most basic level. Gift's life is not basketball or die and it's not like he's going to be pro. He didn't come from England...he came from NIGERIA! That's a place where finding a source of clean water is like striking gold. Stop trying to make him into a D'Lo personality...he's not. Also, you need to learn the difference between being "happy" and "understanding his role on the team". You don't have to be happy, but you can still respect your coach's decision. Google Nigeria because you seem to think his homeland is just peachy with a good standard of living. Most Nigerians would give their left nut just to live in the projects in America and this kid's getting a free BA and a free MA from SJ. He values education just as much if not more than basketball. If you want someone to be mad at, go bark up the NCAA's tree because it's their fault and no one else's.

No need for me to Google Nigeria. And please stop with the stereotypes of the life he lived there because you simply do not know.

And not for one second did I proclaim that his education was unimportant.

The insinuation is that he is content riding the pine and is better suited for next year. I guess because the staff served it up that way, you're eating it up. Gift was highly recruited. Ohio State, NC State, Cincinnati, etc. He contributed last year. Not the best season but he was a contributor who was playing out of position. He also was one of the bigger reasons why Obekpa committed here. Look it up.

If "understanding your role on a team" means the coaching staff is looking to cut a deal with me based on some other player's investigation, I'm definitely going to feel some type of way about it as would most people. You'd be lying if you say you wouldn't.

Gift has the NCAA to be angry at, not Lavin. The NCAA is aggravatingly slow coming up with a decision on Sanchez and Gift suffers.
 
Felix was a better find than Jones IMO and it's not even close. He is very motivated and stays with his man defensively, he blocks shots, he is fast, he can jump up and get rebounds, he can shoot, he can dunk, he can handle the ball, etc. I'm not going to lie I thought he would be nothing special...boy am I happy to eat crow :) one heaping portion for me please.

The staff recruited Obekpa for at least a year. Probably saw him for much more than that because they were involved with one of his teammates in the prior year.

That means they saw Felix just as much. Heck, when I saw OSNA play, Felix clearly stood out on the court. Felix was even OSNA's leading scorer. And Felix was being heavily recruited by UConn.

Jones was out of state. Probably talked about by Harrison and Branch from seeing him in Texas and possibly word of mouth from Phil Greene. Also may have gotten wind from Harkless or Nate Blue while they were training at IMG getting ready for the Draft Combine. Jones recruitment looks like it was the perfect storm and one of the true benefits of having a national recruiting base.

Explain how Felix was a better find when the staff clearly saw more of him?

Pretty simple, Felix is the much better all around player and it's not really that close. Felix shoots better, blocks better (and like 4 inches shorter than Jones), defends better, handles better, rebounds better, etc. What are you seeing that makes you think Jones is better? Felix is way better than most people thought and Jones is ok not great.

Is this a joke? Balamou and Jones are 6 games into their collegiate career. Why don't we give them a half a season or better yet a full season before we declare them "ok not great".

I actually really like what I'm seeing from both players. They are athletic and aggressive out there. With the right coaching, they are going to be big time contributors for the team.

6 games can still tell you a decent amount. For example, we know Harrison is on schedule for the most part, Obekpa seems to be the real deal, Sampson is becoming a more consistent player, Felix is a very well-rounded player, etc.
 
Felix was a better find than Jones IMO and it's not even close. He is very motivated and stays with his man defensively, he blocks shots, he is fast, he can jump up and get rebounds, he can shoot, he can dunk, he can handle the ball, etc. I'm not going to lie I thought he would be nothing special...boy am I happy to eat crow :) one heaping portion for me please.

The staff recruited Obekpa for at least a year. Probably saw him for much more than that because they were involved with one of his teammates in the prior year.

That means they saw Felix just as much. Heck, when I saw OSNA play, Felix clearly stood out on the court. Felix was even OSNA's leading scorer. And Felix was being heavily recruited by UConn.

Jones was out of state. Probably talked about by Harrison and Branch from seeing him in Texas and possibly word of mouth from Phil Greene. Also may have gotten wind from Harkless or Nate Blue while they were training at IMG getting ready for the Draft Combine. Jones recruitment looks like it was the perfect storm and one of the true benefits of having a national recruiting base.

Explain how Felix was a better find when the staff clearly saw more of him?

Pretty simple, Felix is the much better all around player and it's not really that close. Felix shoots better, blocks better (and like 4 inches shorter than Jones), defends better, handles better, rebounds better, etc. What are you seeing that makes you think Jones is better? Felix is way better than most people thought and Jones is ok not great.

Is this a joke? Balamou and Jones are 6 games into their collegiate career. Why don't we give them a half a season or better yet a full season before we declare them "ok not great".

I actually really like what I'm seeing from both players. They are athletic and aggressive out there. With the right coaching, they are going to be big time contributors for the team.

6 games can still tell you a decent amount. For example, we know Harrison is on schedule for the most part, Obekpa seems to be the real deal, Sampson is becoming a more consistent player, Felix is a very well-rounded player, etc.

Its the players who we haven't seem much that need PT that will make a diff in March
 
back to the game...

watching this makes me realize on any given night we can lose to anyone. we outrebounded FGCU by only two. can we get mel davis, billy paultz and/or jayson williams to volunteer to coach rebounding?

we're really lacking in that department.
 
Man i really think you guys are just arguing with Joe out of habit. I think its really clear that Felix is going to have more of an impact than jones will this season, hence his insertion into the starting 5. Yea it was just one game, but clearly Felix is showing what he can do in games and in practice because he is getting significant minutes. He plays terrific defense, doesn't force things offensively, has an extremely high motor. He reminds me of a smaller version of Lavor Postell. I am not saying he is at that level yet but I feel those are the comparisons he will garner when he is a junior at St. John's.
 
Man i really think you guys are just arguing with Joe out of habit. I think its really clear that Felix is going to have more of an impact than jones will this season, hence his insertion into the starting 5. Yea it was just one game, but clearly Felix is showing what he can do in games and in practice because he is getting significant minutes. He plays terrific defense, doesn't force things offensively, has an extremely high motor. He reminds me of a smaller version of Lavor Postell. I am not saying he is at that level yet but I feel those are the comparisons he will garner when he is a junior at St. John's.

Ive really been impressed with felix but I have no idea how it could be "clear" that felix will have a bigger impact than Jones this year. Jones has had as many good moments as Felix has had, its not like hes playing bad. Felix has played all of 50 minutes this year. Keep in mind that Branch will for sure become eligible in a few weeks and the same cant be said for Sanchez.
 
Man i really think you guys are just arguing with Joe out of habit. I think its really clear that Felix is going to have more of an impact than jones will this season, hence his insertion into the starting 5. Yea it was just one game, but clearly Felix is showing what he can do in games and in practice because he is getting significant minutes. He plays terrific defense, doesn't force things offensively, has an extremely high motor. He reminds me of a smaller version of Lavor Postell. I am not saying he is at that level yet but I feel those are the comparisons he will garner when he is a junior at St. John's.

Ive really been impressed with felix but I have no idea how it could be "clear" that felix will have a bigger impact than Jones this year. Jones has had as many good moments as Felix has had, its not like hes playing bad. Felix has played all of 50 minutes this year. Keep in mind that Branch will for sure become eligible in a few weeks and the same cant be said for Sanchez.
 
back to the game...

watching this makes me realize on any given night we can lose to anyone. we outrebounded FGCU by only two. can we get mel davis, billy paultz and/or jayson williams to volunteer to coach rebounding?

we're really lacking in that department.

If they suited up, they would be the top three rebounders on this team. And Mel and Billy have to be around 60. Mel came in a great rebounder, and was still boarding well in the few minutes Red Holzman gave him. I just don't think it is that easy to teach. I would start by showing them films of Mel from his SJU days over and over. Then let them fight for rebounds in a drill with 60 year old Mel.
 
For his size, Jones is not a good rebounder. He makes some nice mid range shots but hasn't been a real scoring threat. He is more of a cleanup man for shots off the rim waiting for a tip in or ally oop. Felix can spot up shoot, he can shoot off the dribble, he can rebound much better, he plays D much harder, his effort is the highest on the team, etc. Felix is our Iman Shumpert.
 
Felix was a better find than Jones IMO and it's not even close. He is very motivated and stays with his man defensively, he blocks shots, he is fast, he can jump up and get rebounds, he can shoot, he can dunk, he can handle the ball, etc. I'm not going to lie I thought he would be nothing special...boy am I happy to eat crow :) one heaping portion for me please.

The staff recruited Obekpa for at least a year. Probably saw him for much more than that because they were involved with one of his teammates in the prior year.

That means they saw Felix just as much. Heck, when I saw OSNA play, Felix clearly stood out on the court. Felix was even OSNA's leading scorer. And Felix was being heavily recruited by UConn.

Jones was out of state. Probably talked about by Harrison and Branch from seeing him in Texas and possibly word of mouth from Phil Greene. Also may have gotten wind from Harkless or Nate Blue while they were training at IMG getting ready for the Draft Combine. Jones recruitment looks like it was the perfect storm and one of the true benefits of having a national recruiting base.

Explain how Felix was a better find when the staff clearly saw more of him?

Pretty simple, Felix is the much better all around player and it's not really that close. Felix shoots better, blocks better (and like 4 inches shorter than Jones), defends better, handles better, rebounds better, etc. What are you seeing that makes you think Jones is better? Felix is way better than most people thought and Jones is ok not great.

It is true that Felix is better than most realized but I think that Jones is very good as well...To date, our offense is heavily controlled by guards..very little opportunity for Jones to stand out...Even with limited opportunity and minutes I think he has done well and projects to be a very good player....I am very impressed with the athleticism and skills that each and very one of Lavin's recruits possess...They don't look like the typical "rough around the edge" 1st year player...
 
I keep searching for our breakout performance where we are clicking on all cylinders keeping our opponents 3 pt % below 35%

Only one team has shot over 35% from 3-point range against us.

Oh petty facts

While acknowledging the import of aggregate percentages, there is no getting around that the volume of unbelievably open threes allowed and made vs. Detroit, Murray St., and Baylor are a problem...whether they shot it at 30% or 40%. When you're giving up an average of double-digit 3s (as we did in those 3 games), the difference in the percentage clip made against us becomes negligible in comparison to the sheer volume made against us (within a reasonable percentage). Out of our zone, when assignments aren't tight and we are constantly scrambling to get to shooters that also contributes to our other big issue thus far, which is controlling the defensive backboard.

We were better in both areas against Holy Cross, and both will continue to get better. But there is little covering up - by way of percentage or otherwise - the way we defended the 3 and rebounded in Charleston.

They are going to get the shots off somehow. The percentages increase the closer you go. Maybe I'm nuts but I'd rather let them bomb away from 3. Whats the old saying? Live by the 3, die by the 3. I'm happy we learned that and don't take nearly as many as we used to.
 
Jesus Christ here we go again...a mid major up 10-2 right away nailing every 3 as if they are Duke

Just one game can we dominate?

Please do not use the Lord's name in vain ;)
 
This play by play guy is annoying

Show up at a game and you won't have to listen ;)

Hmm. Good point. lol. I'm making up for last nights absence by flying out to the San Francisco game

Although my attendance for the game this thursday unfortunately is 50-50 at best
 
This play by play guy is annoying

Show up at a game and you won't have to listen ;)

Hmm. Good point. lol. I'm making up for last nights absence by flying out to the San Francisco game

Although my attendance for the game this thursday unfortunately is 50-50 at best

If we were playing in Oregon you wouldn't be going. Its because we are playing in a beautiful city and Napa is close by :)

And as for Thursday get your priorities together ;)
 
This play by play guy is annoying

Show up at a game and you won't have to listen ;)

Hmm. Good point. lol. I'm making up for last nights absence by flying out to the San Francisco game

Although my attendance for the game this thursday unfortunately is 50-50 at best

If we were playing in Oregon you wouldn't be going. Its because we are playing in a beautiful city and Napa is close by :)

And as for Thursday get your priorities together ;)

I'd actually rather travel to Oregon than Carnesseca Arena :)

And Napa/Sonoma sure dont hurt reasons to fly out for the San Fran game.

I just hope the Big East stays together long enough for a memphis road trip
 
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