DLo posts a picture of redmen.com post bashing him

After reading this thread I have only one question. Who is Jack Williams taking to the prom?
 
Hopefully this will stop certain posters from taking shots at the team, the coach, and the players with every post. They read the site, and if I was a player and read some of the crap posted by our fan base, I might consider transferring too.
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Oh lord have mercy with this sanctimonious stuff. And if you considered transferring to another high-major or even most mid-to-low major schools, guess what?? THEY ALL HAVE MESSAGE BOARDS TOO! Iona has a message board. As does Fordham. As does Hofstra. As does Manhattan College. Gimme a break with the players-getting-their-feelings-hurt stuff. Every high major school has a message board and we don't read about that nonsense.

If a player REALLY is effected enough by a message board post that they consider transferring, then they aren't mentally or emotionally tough. Because 99.999% of the players at this level deal with the same stuff and don't consider bailing.
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Oh give me a freaking break. A deciding factor in choosing a school for many kids is the fan base. Our fan base in all honestly has been pathetic, especially on the internet. How many other programs rip their leading scorer the way Harrison gets ripped on here? The answer is not many. We should appreciate what we have in Harrison. If kids are reading these boards and see nothing but "Lavin is the worst coach in america" "We recruit athletes not basketball players" "Players don't develop under Lavin" "Harrison is a punk," and countless others I could quote, they may have serious doubts about this fan base and rightfully so. There are many fan bases that would love to have our players, and love to have Steve Lavin recruiting top 100 kids every single year.

Stop pretending like every high major school berates their players like we do. It's simply not true, We go overboard. Your job as a fan is to support the team. You'd think the known fact that our players read these boards would be enough for you to calm down a bit with ridiculing the players.
 
Not any fan base that likes making it to the NCAA Tournament. You wave the pom poms enough for the rest of us. Fans want to win. To blindly support a losing program insure they stay that way. You can still support by going to games, rooting for the team but have criticisms on an internet web site.
 
After reading this thread I have only one question. Who is Jack Williams taking to the prom?
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I thought that was him on the news video I saw this morning, of the student going to the stage and asking Miss America to the prom while she was speaking at his school. :cheer:
 
Not any fan base that likes making it to the NCAA Tournament. You wave the pom poms enough for the rest of us. Fans want to win. To blindly support a losing program insure they stay that way. You can still support by going to games, rooting for the team but have criticisms on an internet web site.
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+1,000
 
Not any fan base that likes making it to the NCAA Tournament. You wave the pom poms enough for the rest of us. Fans want to win. To blindly support a losing program insure they stay that way. You can still support by going to games, rooting for the team but have criticisms on an internet web site.
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You miss my point. It's one thing to criticize play on the court, I do that all the time. It's another to personally attack players and those players' coaches. Especially when you know they are going to read it. And then you have the audacity to wonder, "Why are all these players considering transferring."

Clearly D'lo was irked by the post by MainMan, and rightfully so, he has no idea if it was sarcastic or not. I really hope that was the extent of what he read, or Phil read. Because we all know there were posts worse than that.
 
Hopefully this will stop certain posters from taking shots at the team, the coach, and the players with every post. They read the site, and if I was a player and read some of the crap posted by our fan base, I might consider transferring too.
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Oh lord have mercy with this sanctimonious stuff. And if you considered transferring to another high-major or even most mid-to-low major schools, guess what?? THEY ALL HAVE MESSAGE BOARDS TOO! Iona has a message board. As does Fordham. As does Hofstra. As does Manhattan College. Gimme a break with the players-getting-their-feelings-hurt stuff. Every high major school has a message board and we don't read about that nonsense.

If a player REALLY is effected enough by a message board post that they consider transferring, then they aren't mentally or emotionally tough. Because 99.999% of the players at this level deal with the same stuff and don't consider bailing.
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Oh give me a freaking break. A deciding factor in choosing a school for many kids is the fan base. Our fan base in all honestly has been pathetic, especially on the internet. How many other programs rip their leading scorer the way Harrison gets ripped on here? The answer is not many. We should appreciate what we have in Harrison. If kids are reading these boards and see nothing but "Lavin is the worst coach in america" "We recruit athletes not basketball players" "Players don't develop under Lavin" "Harrison is a punk," and countless others I could quote, they may have serious doubts about this fan base and rightfully so. There are many fan bases that would love to have our players, and love to have Steve Lavin recruiting top 100 kids every single year.

Stop pretending like every high major school berates their players like we do. It's simply not true, We go overboard. Your job as a fan is to support the team. You'd think the known fact that our players read these boards would be enough for you to calm down a bit with ridiculing the players.
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For the record, I believe all of the above comments referencing Steve Lavin to be accurate. Thank you for reiterating them.
 
Hopefully this will stop certain posters from taking shots at the team, the coach, and the players with every post. They read the site, and if I was a player and read some of the crap posted by our fan base, I might consider transferring too.
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Oh lord have mercy with this sanctimonious stuff. And if you considered transferring to another high-major or even most mid-to-low major schools, guess what?? THEY ALL HAVE MESSAGE BOARDS TOO! Iona has a message board. As does Fordham. As does Hofstra. As does Manhattan College. Gimme a break with the players-getting-their-feelings-hurt stuff. Every high major school has a message board and we don't read about that nonsense.

If a player REALLY is effected enough by a message board post that they consider transferring, then they aren't mentally or emotionally tough. Because 99.999% of the players at this level deal with the same stuff and don't consider bailing.
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Oh give me a freaking break. A deciding factor in choosing a school for many kids is the fan base. Our fan base in all honestly has been pathetic, especially on the internet. How many other programs rip their leading scorer the way Harrison gets ripped on here? The answer is not many. We should appreciate what we have in Harrison. If kids are reading these boards and see nothing but "Lavin is the worst coach in america" "We recruit athletes not basketball players" "Players don't develop under Lavin" "Harrison is a punk," and countless others I could quote, they may have serious doubts about this fan base and rightfully so. There are many fan bases that would love to have our players, and love to have Steve Lavin recruiting top 100 kids every single year.

Stop pretending like every high major school berates their players like we do. It's simply not true, We go overboard. Your job as a fan is to support the team. You'd think the known fact that our players read these boards would be enough for you to calm down a bit with ridiculing the players.
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For the record, I believe all of the above comments referencing Steve Lavin to be accurate. Thank you for reiterating them.
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If you honestly believe Steve Lavin is the worst coach in the country then you are a novice in terms of college basketball knowledge.
 
Not any fan base that likes making it to the NCAA Tournament. You wave the pom poms enough for the rest of us. Fans want to win. To blindly support a losing program insure they stay that way. You can still support by going to games, rooting for the team but have criticisms on an internet web site.
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You miss my point. It's one thing to criticize play on the court, I do that all the time. It's another to personally attack players and those players' coaches. Especially when you know they are going to read it. And then you have the audacity to wonder, "Why are all these players considering transferring."

Clearly D'lo was irked by the post by MainMan, and rightfully so, he has no idea if it was sarcastic or not. I really hope that was the extent of what he read, or Phil read. Because we all know there were posts worse than that.
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The coach is fair game. He makes $2 million dollars a year to run a program that recieves donations and support from several generations of alummni and others. He must have the big boy pants on....comes with the position/salary. There absolutely should be expectations.
 
Not any fan base that likes making it to the NCAA Tournament. You wave the pom poms enough for the rest of us. Fans want to win. To blindly support a losing program insure they stay that way. You can still support by going to games, rooting for the team but have criticisms on an internet web site.
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You miss my point. It's one thing to criticize play on the court, I do that all the time. It's another to personally attack players and those players' coaches. Especially when you know they are going to read it. And then you have the audacity to wonder, "Why are all these players considering transferring."

Clearly D'lo was irked by the post by MainMan, and rightfully so, he has no idea if it was sarcastic or not. I really hope that was the extent of what he read, or Phil read. Because we all know there were posts worse than that.
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The coach is fair game. He makes $2 million dollars a year to run a program that recieves donations and support from several generations of alummni and others.
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Criticize his coaching all you want. That's what he gets paid to do. Call me crazy, but I still think personal attacks should be off limits.
 
Not any fan base that likes making it to the NCAA Tournament. You wave the pom poms enough for the rest of us. Fans want to win. To blindly support a losing program insure they stay that way. You can still support by going to games, rooting for the team but have criticisms on an internet web site.
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You miss my point. It's one thing to criticize play on the court, I do that all the time. It's another to personally attack players and those players' coaches. Especially when you know they are going to read it. And then you have the audacity to wonder, "Why are all these players considering transferring."

Clearly D'lo was irked by the post by MainMan, and rightfully so, he has no idea if it was sarcastic or not. I really hope that was the extent of what he read, or Phil read. Because we all know there were posts worse than that.
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The coach is fair game. He makes $2 million dollars a year to run a program that recieves donations and support from several generations of alummni and others.
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Criticize his coaching all you want. That's what he gets paid to do. Call me crazy, but I still think personal attacks should be off limits.
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Actually, I am totally with you. I have never made it personal. It has always been about his coaching ability, recruiting vacations, and not (ever) taking responsibility for the team's performance.
 
Not any fan base that likes making it to the NCAA Tournament. You wave the pom poms enough for the rest of us. Fans want to win. To blindly support a losing program insure they stay that way. You can still support by going to games, rooting for the team but have criticisms on an internet web site.
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You miss my point. It's one thing to criticize play on the court, I do that all the time. It's another to personally attack players and those players' coaches. Especially when you know they are going to read it. And then you have the audacity to wonder, "Why are all these players considering transferring."

Clearly D'lo was irked by the post by MainMan, and rightfully so, he has no idea if it was sarcastic or not. I really hope that was the extent of what he read, or Phil read. Because we all know there were posts worse than that.
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The coach is fair game. He makes $2 million dollars a year to run a program that recieves donations and support from several generations of alummni and others.
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Criticize his coaching all you want. That's what he gets paid to do. Call me crazy, but I still think personal attacks should be off limits.
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Actually, I am totally with you. I have never made it personal. It has always been about his coaching ability, recruiting vacations, and not (ever) taking responsibility for the team's performance.
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Ok then, would you agree that personal attacks do indeed happen quite often here?
 
Is this when THIS thread turns into another Lavin pissing contest?[/quote)

No unfortunately it already did as every other thread seems to do.
Can we please discuss just one bloody topic on this board that does not become a Coach Lavin hate fest?
Just one?
Thank you.
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Is this when THIS thread turns into another Lavin pissing contest?
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Yep! Guess who's doing it again? Real, errr, JohnnyFan.

He's (along, with another poster or two) derailing threads with the same garbage.
 
Fratto just blocked mainman from the sju twitter page. Last heard saying " take that mailman ". News at 11
 
Hopefully this will stop certain posters from taking shots at the team, the coach, and the players with every post. They read the site, and if I was a player and read some of the crap posted by our fan base, I might consider transferring too.
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Oh lord have mercy with this sanctimonious stuff. And if you considered transferring to another high-major or even most mid-to-low major schools, guess what?? THEY ALL HAVE MESSAGE BOARDS TOO! Iona has a message board. As does Fordham. As does Hofstra. As does Manhattan College. Gimme a break with the players-getting-their-feelings-hurt stuff. Every high major school has a message board and we don't read about that nonsense.

If a player REALLY is effected enough by a message board post that they consider transferring, then they aren't mentally or emotionally tough. Because 99.999% of the players at this level deal with the same stuff and don't consider bailing.
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Oh give me a freaking break. A deciding factor in choosing a school for many kids is the fan base. Our fan base in all honestly has been pathetic, especially on the internet. How many other programs rip their leading scorer the way Harrison gets ripped on here? The answer is not many. We should appreciate what we have in Harrison. If kids are reading these boards and see nothing but "Lavin is the worst coach in america" "We recruit athletes not basketball players" "Players don't develop under Lavin" "Harrison is a punk," and countless others I could quote, they may have serious doubts about this fan base and rightfully so. There are many fan bases that would love to have our players, and love to have Steve Lavin recruiting top 100 kids every single year.

Stop pretending like every high major school berates their players like we do. It's simply not true, We go overboard. Your job as a fan is to support the team. You'd think the known fact that our players read these boards would be enough for you to calm down a bit with ridiculing the players.
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This just isn't true. I covered basketball recruiting for a couple of years, and am friends with the advisors and coaches that surround a number of top-tier players.

I have a fairly good picture of how recruiting works. For top-75/100 talent, "fanbases" play such a tiny part in the recruitment of a prospect. You are fantasizing the process. It is about who gets guys to the league, where is there open playing time, and deep, wideranging politics that go into recruiting and so much more that 95% of the time come way WAY before fanbases, ESPECIALLY as it pertains to "message boards". Its just not at all a significant factor in the process. With that said, yes it is read by those around programs and those around elite players, but they do not play factors in the process.

I also read the message boards of other schools from time-to-time and yes the rhetoric used is very similar. Stop thinking that we're special in how we "go after" players and coaches. Its simply not true. This happens at nearly every high-major school. In fact, the high-achieving schools are often the ones that are the most brutal.

Again, every high-major program has a message board in which there are sharp critics. Every player has had to deal with them. If a player really chooses that he has to transfer because of whats said about dozens or hundreds of players a year on message boards, then hes simply not mentally or emotionally tough.

Its actually insulting to our players to think that they can't handle a situation like this message board without breaking down to a point in which they'd think about transferring.
 
Was your father just appointed president of St.John's?
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My girlfriend just saw the picture if the new president and cracked up, well done![/quote]

Well I think Al looks more like the actor Michael Pena. LOL
 
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