DePaul, Wed., Dec. 7, 6:30p, FS-1
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Mullins Revenge
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Mathis has ben playig great, but Id like to see Pinzon get the start tonight. We need to have a shooter on the floor with the starters to space the floor. Moving forward, id start:
Posh
Curbelo
Pinzon
Jones
Soriano
Posh
Curbelo
Pinzon
Jones
Soriano
Boo Harvey
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I agree that Mathis has played much more disciplined this year and has shot the ball better (both from three and the line). While a nice and important glue piece (Paris Horne comes to mind ), I think Mathis is limited.
I do think Pinzon has potential to be a good offensive contributor and give us some much needed shooting. But I have reservations about his shot selection, consistency, and most importantly, his defense. The staff seems high on him and has given him a good amount of PT from the getgo. As long as he’s healthy, I suspect he’ll be on the floor a lot. Whether he starts or not is irrelevant.
Would love to see more from (not necessarily of) Storr as he’s a big guard/wing who can shoot a little. I have to say I’ve been surprised by his lack of rebounding and inability (at least so far) to generate any offense other than shooting an open three (is it just me or does he have a really high arcing shot?) or dunking in transition.
Most critical, in order to be successful this year, I think we need Posh and Jones to consistently play like “All Big East” players. Maybe it’s a function of chemistry or coaching or an early season slump — who know — but in my estimation, neither have been close so far. Nonetheless, I think both kids have the potential to be All Big East performers.
Posh will likely never be a very good shooter, but I believe he’s a better shooter than he’s shown.
The turnovers are inexplicable. I think he’s struggling playing the two guard role.
Jones is trying to do much. He needs to be reigned in and play to his strengths. It’s ok if he takes an occasional three, but dribbling for ten seconds at the top of the key and launching a deep three or continuously putting his head down and dribbling into traffic has to stop. For the most part, Jones should be around the basket or limited to a penetration consisting of a few dribbles.
As for Curbelo, I haven’t really formed an opinion. My initial reaction is that while he has obvious ability, he’s careless with the basketball to a fault and is hurting the team’s chemistry. That said, he exhibited leadership and a “killer mentality” in the Temple and Syracuse games that this team hasn’t had since Ponds (I know some on this board are hard on Ponds, but I never felt he was afraid of the big moment even if he didn’t always deliver). I think the jury’s out on Belo.
Finally, Soriano has been a revelation. I actually was impressed by him even in the Iowa St. game. His points were way down and he got into foul trouble, but he was the subject of relentless double teams and he still rebounded the ball very well. We didn’t lose that game because of him. Unfortunately, I do think his numbers will go down in league play unless we get some consistent shooting and half court play making. But even so, Soriano is the first legitimate post presence we’ve had in a long time and I’m thrilled with his development.
Boo Harvey's post evoked an old bb junkie memory. The Knicks , under Pitino?, (Celtic fan since Fall, 1957) were doing well with Patrick and Mark Jackson and building and then they moved Mark Jackson and got Charles Smith. My reaction then and my reaction to Boo Harvey's post now is that there are multiple types of wing scorers, "catch and shoot", "drive threat and step back", and "rhythm". Only catch and shoot would have cleared the middle and stopped double teams to make Patrick more effective. Charles Smith was a rhythm shooter outside with enough delay in his release to allow defenders to clog the middle against Patrick and still recover to defend Smith's shots. My sense about David Jones is that he is a rhythm shooter and will not open up the middle for either Soriano or our driving guards. Jones may play well but it is a mismatch of skill sets.
I was happy to see Wusu benched. Iowa State D is good enough without him driving into the other team's breadbasket and getting blocked
It isn't that. Yes the loss sucks. But the takeaway is that it isn't a "jump out the window it's the same old St John's" loss.
We all loved Lavin, but let's face it he had more talent and did nothing with it. And the same guys hate CMA
ronm
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Posh was doing that instead.
Yeah we looked great without him
Nice post. Re Storr, I said it when he was being recruited, he’s not a guard. He has enough size and athleticism to play 3+ but he cannot create offense by himself or breakdown perimeter defenders consistently. Plus his release takes quite a bit of time to get off, especially off the dribble. Maybe he’ll be able to do so against forwards but he doesn’t seem to have the handle or the agility in tight spaces to do it vs guards who can get underneath him.
That being said, the problem with him playin the 3 is that he has shown absolutely no ability to rebound. As you mentioned.
Plenty of potential and I’m a big fan but he needs a lot of seasoning.
I was definitely one of those who thought Aaron Wheeler was pretty awful at this time last year. I really can't remember any player whose turnaround surprised me more.
IMHO those type of surprises seem to happen far more often under Mike Anderson than under previous regimes. While it is wonderful to be the type of program that pulls in top twenty 5-star recruits on a consistent basis that is clearly not who we are. Under CMA, part of the fun has been watching under the radar guys that you would not expect much of (based on recruiting level or early play) really step up over the course of a season to be significant contributors. Julian Champagnie, Marcellus Earlington, Posh Alexander, Nick Rutherford, Esahia Nyiwe, Rasheem Dunn, Stef Smith, Greg Williams, Joel Soriano, Omar Stanley and even Dylan Addae-Wusu all have wound up exceeding initial perceptions over the course of a season to shine at given times during the CMA tenure. Whether this is a strength or a flaw on how SJU currently operates is in the eye of the beholder.
For me, as a fan, I root for all the players we have and love it when they improve or exceed my initial expectations. Hopefully during this year, we will be able to add some more players to the list of those who get it over time and show major improvement over the course of the season.
This is more preferable to me than the experience of watching a season like the 2018-19 season where the team started out like they were going to be something special and seeing the team devolve and disappoint as they fell apart in the second half of the season.
The good Dylan is a pleasure to watch, the crazy not so patient Dylan, not is much
True. And we are still 100% better off having him available to play.
The Bad thing is, the "crazy not so patient" Dylan shows up too often and always at the most inopportune time.
I love the fact he tries to make something happen but like you said not always at the correct time.
I never wanted Lavin hired and was one of his harshest critics. Just ask Mike Maher lol. I was just comparing talent. If CMA gets Lavin level talent, he'll do just fine here.
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