DePaul Game

[postell25]

Hate to classify game 5 of the BE season as must win, but I believe it is. Losing at SHU we can withstand. Losing at home to Nova is acceptable - they will be the class of the league. Butler at home stings and can only be nullified with a road win there - doable. Beat DePaul, and we are looking at Marquette at home before Creighton away - another have to win game on our schedule, before a rematch with Providence (Duke non-conf sandwiched in between). I believe Providence will be a dogfight to win, and it's by far in our best interests to win the three aforementioned conference games to pull to 4-3 before the rematch.

If we cannot beat DePaul away, we will struggle to be ..500 in conference, and need BET magic to have a post season - the real season. Put them away, and we can right the ship quickly.

Be careful. Others (they know who they are), wiill get on you for calling this a must win.

BTW I agree with your post.

Couldn't disagree more. Granted, I think we should win this game but there are no easy road wins in this conference. If we lose a road game to DePaul, we lose a road game to DePaul and we try to make it up somewhere else.

You must dig very deep ditches for a living, and like climbing a big ladder out

Well we lost at DePaul last year when we were 0-4 and got back to 10-8. Ive seen it done. That's all I'm saying. And with our non-conference, 10-8 gets us in. Last year our best non-conference win was arguably San Francisco at home.

 

[redfan259999888]

Hate to classify game 5 of the BE season as must win, but I believe it is. Losing at SHU we can withstand. Losing at home to Nova is acceptable - they will be the class of the league. Butler at home stings and can only be nullified with a road win there - doable. Beat DePaul, and we are looking at Marquette at home before Creighton away - another have to win game on our schedule, before a rematch with Providence (Duke non-conf sandwiched in between). I believe Providence will be a dogfight to win, and it's by far in our best interests to win the three aforementioned conference games to pull to 4-3 before the rematch.

If we cannot beat DePaul away, we will struggle to be ..500 in conference, and need BET magic to have a post season - the real season. Put them away, and we can right the ship quickly.

Be careful. Others (they know who they are), wiill get on you for calling this a must win.

BTW I agree with your post.

Couldn't disagree more. Granted, I think we should win this game but there are no easy road wins in this conference. If we lose a road game to DePaul, we lose a road game to DePaul and we try to make it up somewhere else.

You must dig very deep ditches for a living, and like climbing a big ladder out

Well we lost at DePaul last year when we were 0-4 and got back to 10-8. Ive seen it done. That's all I'm saying. And with our non-conference, 10-8 gets us in. Last year our best non-conference win was arguably San Francisco at home.

Question for you Postell. How was our depth last year, compared to this year?
Giving Amar 14minutes @ PC and getting him more involved is smart, we'll need him and a few more bench players as well. The starters will need a break here and there.

 

[beast of the east]

Hate to classify game 5 of the BE season as must win, but I believe it is. Losing at SHU we can withstand. Losing at home to Nova is acceptable - they will be the class of the league. Butler at home stings and can only be nullified with a road win there - doable. Beat DePaul, and we are looking at Marquette at home before Creighton away - another have to win game on our schedule, before a rematch with Providence (Duke non-conf sandwiched in between). I believe Providence will be a dogfight to win, and it's by far in our best interests to win the three aforementioned conference games to pull to 4-3 before the rematch.

If we cannot beat DePaul away, we will struggle to be ..500 in conference, and need BET magic to have a post season - the real season. Put them away, and we can right the ship quickly.

Be careful. Others (they know who they are), wiill get on you for calling this a must win.

BTW I agree with your post.

Couldn't disagree more. Granted, I think we should win this game but there are no easy road wins in this conference. If we lose a road game to DePaul, we lose a road game to DePaul and we try to make it up somewhere else.

You must dig very deep ditches for a living, and like climbing a big ladder out

Well we lost at DePaul last year when we were 0-4 and got back to 10-8. Ive seen it done. That's all I'm saying. And with our non-conference, 10-8 gets us in. Last year our best non-conference win was arguably San Francisco at home.

Fair enough. But do me a favor. If we should lose, can you take my typical place right after the game and express that sentiment when the expected bombardment ensues?

 

[Jack Williams]

The loss at DePaul last year was devastating, regardless of the run we made late in the year. A loss this year would be devastating as well. Simple as that

 

[redfan259999888]

The loss at DePaul last year was devastating, regardless of the run we made late in the year. A loss this year would be devastating as well. Simple as that

Yep, gotta avoid going back to 3 games under, then fighting your way back to 500.

 

[postell25]

Hate to classify game 5 of the BE season as must win, but I believe it is. Losing at SHU we can withstand. Losing at home to Nova is acceptable - they will be the class of the league. Butler at home stings and can only be nullified with a road win there - doable. Beat DePaul, and we are looking at Marquette at home before Creighton away - another have to win game on our schedule, before a rematch with Providence (Duke non-conf sandwiched in between). I believe Providence will be a dogfight to win, and it's by far in our best interests to win the three aforementioned conference games to pull to 4-3 before the rematch.

If we cannot beat DePaul away, we will struggle to be ..500 in conference, and need BET magic to have a post season - the real season. Put them away, and we can right the ship quickly.

Be careful. Others (they know who they are), wiill get on you for calling this a must win.

BTW I agree with your post.

Couldn't disagree more. Granted, I think we should win this game but there are no easy road wins in this conference. If we lose a road game to DePaul, we lose a road game to DePaul and we try to make it up somewhere else.

You must dig very deep ditches for a living, and like climbing a big ladder out

Well we lost at DePaul last year when we were 0-4 and got back to 10-8. Ive seen it done. That's all I'm saying. And with our non-conference, 10-8 gets us in. Last year our best non-conference win was arguably San Francisco at home.

Question for you Postell. How was our depth last year, compared to this year?
Giving Amar 14minutes @ PC and getting him more involved is smart, we'll need him and a few more bench players as well. The starters will need a break here and there.

I'm only worried about depth in the event of foul trouble. In shape college kids can run for days. The games are won and lost with a dedication to perimeter D. We didn't lose to Seton Hall and Butler because we got tired. We lose because they hit 7 and 10 threes respectively at 44% and 58%. Providence shot 28.6%.

 

[redfazed]

Hate to classify game 5 of the BE season as must win, but I believe it is. Losing at SHU we can withstand. Losing at home to Nova is acceptable - they will be the class of the league. Butler at home stings and can only be nullified with a road win there - doable. Beat DePaul, and we are looking at Marquette at home before Creighton away - another have to win game on our schedule, before a rematch with Providence (Duke non-conf sandwiched in between). I believe Providence will be a dogfight to win, and it's by far in our best interests to win the three aforementioned conference games to pull to 4-3 before the rematch.

If we cannot beat DePaul away, we will struggle to be ..500 in conference, and need BET magic to have a post season - the real season. Put them away, and we can right the ship quickly.

Be careful. Others (they know who they are), wiill get on you for calling this a must win.

BTW I agree with your post.

Couldn't disagree more. Granted, I think we should win this game but there are no easy road wins in this conference. If we lose a road game to DePaul, we lose a road game to DePaul and we try to make it up somewhere else.

You must dig very deep ditches for a living, and like climbing a big ladder out

Well we lost at DePaul last year when we were 0-4 and got back to 10-8. Ive seen it done. That's all I'm saying. And with our non-conference, 10-8 gets us in. Last year our best non-conference win was arguably San Francisco at home.

Our non-conference record, assuming we don't beat Duke, isn't strong enough to get us in with 10-8. The OOC gave us no wins over a ranked team. Cuse has yet to be ranked, Minnesota is at the bottom of their conference. This is exactly what happened last year. Need at least 11 wins in conference.

 

[redfan259999888]

Hate to classify game 5 of the BE season as must win, but I believe it is. Losing at SHU we can withstand. Losing at home to Nova is acceptable - they will be the class of the league. Butler at home stings and can only be nullified with a road win there - doable. Beat DePaul, and we are looking at Marquette at home before Creighton away - another have to win game on our schedule, before a rematch with Providence (Duke non-conf sandwiched in between). I believe Providence will be a dogfight to win, and it's by far in our best interests to win the three aforementioned conference games to pull to 4-3 before the rematch.

If we cannot beat DePaul away, we will struggle to be ..500 in conference, and need BET magic to have a post season - the real season. Put them away, and we can right the ship quickly.

Be careful. Others (they know who they are), wiill get on you for calling this a must win.

BTW I agree with your post.

Couldn't disagree more. Granted, I think we should win this game but there are no easy road wins in this conference. If we lose a road game to DePaul, we lose a road game to DePaul and we try to make it up somewhere else.

You must dig very deep ditches for a living, and like climbing a big ladder out

Well we lost at DePaul last year when we were 0-4 and got back to 10-8. Ive seen it done. That's all I'm saying. And with our non-conference, 10-8 gets us in. Last year our best non-conference win was arguably San Francisco at home.

Question for you Postell. How was our depth last year, compared to this year?
Giving Amar 14minutes @ PC and getting him more involved is smart, we'll need him and a few more bench players as well. The starters will need a break here and there.

I'm only worried about depth in the event of foul trouble. In shape college kids can run for days. The games are won and lost with a dedication to perimeter D. We didn't lose to Seton Hall and Butler because we got tired. We lose because they hit 7 and 10 threes respectively at 44% and 58%. Providence shot 28.6%.

It sure looked to me that they were winded @ SHU.
Vs. Villanova, we were up 2 with 10minutes to go. I know about obekpa and Dom getting into foul trouble, but we lost by 18. I gotta believe they were tired at the end of that game as well.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

i think we need to go 11-7 and win one in the conference tournament to be a lock.

i honestly dont want to go 9-9 and sweat it out on selection sunday either....and get shipped out west to play a team as an 11 seed....

I would rather be playing for a seed than playing just to get in....really, whats another one and done gonna do for us?....and i would like the seniors to go out on a higher note than that

 

[Avon Barksdale]

The loss at DePaul last year was devastating, regardless of the run we made late in the year. A loss this year would be devastating as well. Simple as that

i think because of what happened at DePaul last year, we dont fall into the trap this year.
maybe thats the silver lining in losing that game next year....there is no way they are "sneaking up" on us.

 

[postell25]

Hate to classify game 5 of the BE season as must win, but I believe it is. Losing at SHU we can withstand. Losing at home to Nova is acceptable - they will be the class of the league. Butler at home stings and can only be nullified with a road win there - doable. Beat DePaul, and we are looking at Marquette at home before Creighton away - another have to win game on our schedule, before a rematch with Providence (Duke non-conf sandwiched in between). I believe Providence will be a dogfight to win, and it's by far in our best interests to win the three aforementioned conference games to pull to 4-3 before the rematch.

If we cannot beat DePaul away, we will struggle to be ..500 in conference, and need BET magic to have a post season - the real season. Put them away, and we can right the ship quickly.

Be careful. Others (they know who they are), wiill get on you for calling this a must win.

BTW I agree with your post.

Couldn't disagree more. Granted, I think we should win this game but there are no easy road wins in this conference. If we lose a road game to DePaul, we lose a road game to DePaul and we try to make it up somewhere else.

You must dig very deep ditches for a living, and like climbing a big ladder out

Well we lost at DePaul last year when we were 0-4 and got back to 10-8. Ive seen it done. That's all I'm saying. And with our non-conference, 10-8 gets us in. Last year our best non-conference win was arguably San Francisco at home.

Our non-conference record, assuming we don't beat Duke, isn't strong enough to get us in with 10-8. The OOC gave us no wins over a ranked team. Cuse has yet to be ranked, Minnesota is at the bottom of their conference. This is exactly what happened last year. Need at least 11 wins in conference.

Rankings don't matter. Nobody on the committee looks at rankings. Remember in November when Miami beat the 8th ranked team in the country? That team was Florida. Rankings are meaningless. What matters is that Syracuse as of now is a Top 50 RPI win. And as of now all 4 of our losses are to teams in the RPI Top 20 (yes, even Hall and Butler). The Big East as a whole set the league up so well in non-conference to the point there is going to be a team at 9-9 who gets in this year. Mark it down.

 

[usguard]

Think Amar Looked good and he didn't even do what he does real well shoot

 

[NYCRedmen]

Whether we see this as a must win or not, we all need to accept the fact that every remaining game on our schedule (especially road games) is a potential loss. DePaul is no exception. Is it a game that we could win, yes. Is it a game that we should win, yes. But DePaul owns wins against Xavier, Stanford, Marquette & Creighton. They also took G'Town to the wire (6 point loss). I know they have some bad losses but that simply illustrates just how easily anyone can be knocked off, especially on the road. We need to go in there tomorrow and take care of business, simply put.

 

[usguard]

Whether we see this as a must win or not, we all need to accept the fact that every remaining game on our schedule (especially road games) is a potential loss. DePaul is no exception. Is it a game that we could win, yes. Is it a game that we should win, yes. But DePaul owns wins against Xavier, Stanford, Marquette & Creighton. They also took G'Town to the wire (6 point loss). I know they have some bad losses but that simply illustrates just how easily anyone can be knocked off, especially on the road. We need to go in there tomorrow and take care of business, simply put.

S0 hope thy are off their game

 

[SJU61982]

Whether we see this as a must win or not, we all need to accept the fact that every remaining game on our schedule (especially road games) is a potential loss. DePaul is no exception. Is it a game that we could win, yes. Is it a game that we should win, yes. But DePaul owns wins against Xavier, Stanford, Marquette & Creighton. They also took G'Town to the wire (6 point loss). I know they have some bad losses but that simply illustrates just how easily anyone can be knocked off, especially on the road. We need to go in there tomorrow and take care of business, simply put.

I'd rather have us go in on Sunday and do that . Tomorrow won't do us any good.

 

[paultzman]

Winnable game. Experienced guys like ours should get it done.

 

[NYCRedmen]

Whether we see this as a must win or not, we all need to accept the fact that every remaining game on our schedule (especially road games) is a potential loss. DePaul is no exception. Is it a game that we could win, yes. Is it a game that we should win, yes. But DePaul owns wins against Xavier, Stanford, Marquette & Creighton. They also took G'Town to the wire (6 point loss). I know they have some bad losses but that simply illustrates just how easily anyone can be knocked off, especially on the road. We need to go in there tomorrow and take care of business, simply put.

I'd rather have us go in on Sunday and do that . Tomorrow won't do us any good.

LOL, with our luck lets take care of business tomorrow and Sunday. :silly:

 

[mjmaherjr]

This game is huge because it's one of the more winnable road games and still won't be easy for a team that still has no margin for error in my opinion as we try to make up lost conference ground. I think we win 65-60

 

[simplyred]

Whether we see this as a must win or not, we all need to accept the fact that every remaining game on our schedule (especially road games) is a potential loss. DePaul is no exception. Is it a game that we could win, yes. Is it a game that we should win, yes. But DePaul owns wins against Xavier, Stanford, Marquette & Creighton. They also took G'Town to the wire (6 point loss). I know they have some bad losses but that simply illustrates just how easily anyone can be knocked off, especially on the road. We need to go in there tomorrow and take care of business, simply put.

I'd rather have us go in on Sunday and do that . Tomorrow won't do us any good.

I have it on good authority that NYCRedmen is posting from Australia right now.

 

[SJU1512]

If we still have thoughts of 11-7, we are a game behind where we need to be. Should be 2-2 right now with a win over SHU or Butler. We don't have a chance to make that game up until the end of the month, when we get a chance to get back to a game ahead of schedule with a win @Creighton and home Providence (didn't have us sweeping them). Until then we need to take care of business, margin for error slim as is so can't fumble any more opportunities near-term.

Next two games are imperative. We can call it whatever we want, but DePaul and Marquette are two of our better chances for sweeps. I'd be surprised if we don't get swept at least once, meaning we need 3 sweeps for 11-7. We've set ourselves up nicely for Providence, but will not be easy. SHU, Butler, and Nova are already out. Georgetown (house of horrors for us on the road) and Xavier (dominant at home, beatable on the road, not a good matchup for us overall) are unlikely. That leaves DePaul, Marguette, and Creighton on top of Providence. Sweeping 3 of those 4 will not be easy, so keeping DePaul and Marquette in play in the next five days would be huge.