DePaul Game

I am very happy with this win and the large crowd for a noon game was a surprise. However,
I said in a previous post that the inconsistency of our star players like Harrison and Sampson have hurt us during key games and that none of that is on coach and the DePaul game was yet another example of that observation.
Some might even select Harrison as player of the game after scoring 25 points but in reality, he was one of the biggest factors in letting DePaul back into the game once SJ was up 20 points.  The most glaring example of his Heckle and Jekyll halves was his 6 turnovers and I lost count of bad offensive plays and out of control antics in the second half.  
As for Jakarr, kudos to Lavin for planting his butt on the bench after watching him forget he had teammates in the game while trying to get his points, which was a trademark of Jakarr in the January losses.
This game, though a win, put more doubts in the NCAA tourney selection committee as to our worthiness for an invitation.  While Xavier has clearly  separated itself from the bubble pack, with our struggle against DePaul, we have only raised doubts. That said, the future of this team is now in the hands of having Rysheed Jordan return to our backcourt. Speaking of our backcourt, we absolutely sucked today at handling the DePaul press and choked up 12 turnovers with Harrison the biggest choker.
Speaking of Sheed, I did not know before the game he would not play.  Had to log on at the start of the game to find out he was sitting to "mourn".  Now, I respect the kid if it was his decision but if it was the wizard's then it almost back-fired right into the NIT.  Jordan appeared very animated at the game and  his absence in the backcourt was obvious.
Nice crowd for senior day but Lavin laid his usual egg by not starting Marco, Gift and Primo. 
19-11 is still NIT and I see two more losses after today's sloppy play.  21-13 will not get us to the Dance unless there are very few conference upsets because regardless of RPI, SOS or whatever, going 1-7 against top 50 teams puts us outside the bubble.  The losses to DePaul and Xavier at home last week basically cooked our goose and the good news is a cooked goose cannot lay any more eggs.

Man, some things are just bigger than basketball. Who cares whose decision it was for him to sit? Murder-suicide of a relative, lost another one and a funeral just the other day which Lavin himself attended.

Give me a break.
 
I am very happy with this win and the large crowd for a noon game was a surprise. However,
I said in a previous post that the inconsistency of our star players like Harrison and Sampson have hurt us during key games and that none of that is on coach and the DePaul game was yet another example of that observation.
Some might even select Harrison as player of the game after scoring 25 points but in reality, he was one of the biggest factors in letting DePaul back into the game once SJ was up 20 points.  The most glaring example of his Heckle and Jekyll halves was his 6 turnovers and I lost count of bad offensive plays and out of control antics in the second half.  
As for Jakarr, kudos to Lavin for planting his butt on the bench after watching him forget he had teammates in the game while trying to get his points, which was a trademark of Jakarr in the January losses.
This game, though a win, put more doubts in the NCAA tourney selection committee as to our worthiness for an invitation.  While Xavier has clearly  separated itself from the bubble pack, with our struggle against DePaul, we have only raised doubts. That said, the future of this team is now in the hands of having Rysheed Jordan return to our backcourt. Speaking of our backcourt, we absolutely sucked today at handling the DePaul press and choked up 12 turnovers with Harrison the biggest choker.
Speaking of Sheed, I did not know before the game he would not play.  Had to log on at the start of the game to find out he was sitting to "mourn".  Now, I respect the kid if it was his decision but if it was the wizard's then it almost back-fired right into the NIT.  Jordan appeared very animated at the game and  his absence in the backcourt was obvious.
Nice crowd for senior day but Lavin laid his usual egg by not starting Marco, Gift and Primo. 
19-11 is still NIT and I see two more losses after today's sloppy play.  21-13 will not get us to the Dance unless there are very few conference upsets because regardless of RPI, SOS or whatever, going 1-7 against top 50 teams puts us outside the bubble.  The losses to DePaul and Xavier at home last week basically cooked our goose and the good news is a cooked goose cannot lay any more eggs.

Man, some things are just bigger than basketball. Who cares whose decision it was for him to sit? Murder-suicide of a relative, lost another one and a funeral just the other day which Lavin himself attended.

Give me a break.

It would be a fine time to repost the quote lifted from Hoyasaxa.
 
Sanchez, Pointer and Opekpa all played big today. Nice to see that Chris looks fully healthy. Orlando particularly has put together 2 of his best performances of the year back to back. He's playing within himself and not trying to do too much. Great to see and huge for us if we are going to make a run in the tourney.

Too many turnovers today but hopefully we'll clean that up next week with Jordan back. Bought my BET tourney tix today for semis and finals. Hopefully we are there with a chance to salvage this season. On to Marquette....
 
Back from game...I think defensive intensity is the key for us...it fueled our 9 of 10 run and was key to building lead in 1st half...you could tell by body language in 2nd half when we went up by 20 that we became overconfident...a few buckets later, DePaul was emboldened...started playing more aggressive defense and we didn't respond well...But, we got the win...so, that is what counts...

Some observations....

I think Lavin is better served using timeouts to remind the top 8-9 that the 5 on the court will be dictated by defensive intensity vs. using timeouts after made baskets...

PG IV? Pretty reliable spot up shooter but please don't lead a fast break...I think anyone would be hard pressed to point to one that we have completed with him leading the charge...committed the cardinal sin of passing once he drove past foul line...set me off to the point that some young guy asked if my son played for the team...he was a bit drunk but he appreciated fact that my enthusiasm was just founded in passion for SJ

Lavin is the worst time-out user in college basketball. He tries his hardest to wait until the tv timeout instead of stopping the bleeding. Everyone in the building knew we need to call a time out after the two dunks by Depaul.

Greene and Dom can't run a fast break. Dom should NEVER run a fast break. Both were also today about driving in the lane with no thoughts about what the were going with the ball.

The other thing that killed us today were the refs. I don't normally get on refs, but they called nothing on Depaul today. Their run in the 2nd half never should have happened because a few of our 0-fers on offense should have resulted in us going to the line.
They pretty much played pin ball with Dlo being the ball...and then CO reaches in on a hedge, barely makes contact on Garrett and there you go...foul call
 
Back from game...I think defensive intensity is the key for us...it fueled our 9 of 10 run and was key to building lead in 1st half...you could tell by body language in 2nd half when we went up by 20 that we became overconfident...a few buckets later, DePaul was emboldened...started playing more aggressive defense and we didn't respond well...But, we got the win...so, that is what counts...

Some observations....

I think Lavin is better served using timeouts to remind the top 8-9 that the 5 on the court will be dictated by defensive intensity vs. using timeouts after made baskets...

PG IV? Pretty reliable spot up shooter but please don't lead a fast break...I think anyone would be hard pressed to point to one that we have completed with him leading the charge...committed the cardinal sin of passing once he drove past foul line...set me off to the point that some young guy asked if my son played for the team...he was a bit drunk but he appreciated fact that my enthusiasm was just founded in passion for SJ

Lavin is the worst time-out user in college basketball. He tries his hardest to wait until the tv timeout instead of stopping the bleeding. Everyone in the building knew we need to call a time out after the two dunks by Depaul.

Greene and Dom can't run a fast break. Dom should NEVER run a fast break. Both were also today about driving in the lane with no thoughts about what the were going with the ball.

The other thing that killed us today were the refs. I don't normally get on refs, but they called nothing on Depaul today. Their run in the 2nd half never should have happened because a few of our 0-fers on offense should have resulted in us going to the line.
They pretty much played pin ball with Dlo being the ball...and then CO reaches in on a hedge, barely makes contact on Garrett and there you go...foul call

CO should have been kicked off the court for stupidity reaching in 30 feet from the basket with less thank 1 minute on the clock. That one play sums up our team bball iq.
 
Sanchez, Pointer and Opekpa all played big today. Nice to see that Chris looks fully healthy. Orlando particularly has put together 2 of his best performances of the year back to back. He's playing within himself and not trying to do too much. Great to see and huge for us if we are going to make a run in the tourney.

Too many turnovers today but hopefully we'll clean that up next week with Jordan back. Bought my BET tourney tix today for semis and finals. Hopefully we are there with a chance to salvage this season. On to Marquette....

Actually thought Sanchez may have been the player of the game. As you noted, played within himself and avoided those low % 3s...and was very aggressive at the rim...if he can be somewhat consistent from here on out, he can make an impact
 
Sanchez, Pointer and Opekpa all played big today. Nice to see that Chris looks fully healthy. Orlando particularly has put together 2 of his best performances of the year back to back. He's playing within himself and not trying to do too much. Great to see and huge for us if we are going to make a run in the tourney.

Too many turnovers today but hopefully we'll clean that up next week with Jordan back. Bought my BET tourney tix today for semis and finals. Hopefully we are there with a chance to salvage this season. On to Marquette....

Actually thought Sanchez may have been the player of the game. As you noted, played within himself and avoided those low % 3s...and was very aggressive at the rim...if he can be somewhat consistent from here on out, he can make an impact

Sanchez was really solid. Playing like a guy who needs to support a family!

Sampson, on the other hand, was the biggest surprise for me. We can't afford that kind of performance at Marquette.
 
On the refs - DLo was getting mugged with monotonous regularity and no whistles were blown. I'm surprised and relieved that he didn't explode.

DePaul's gameplan was definitely to beat up on Dlo. Since the refs weren't calling the fouls, there was no reason for them to stop. They took a few shots at Obekpa too.
 
I am very happy with this win and the large crowd for a noon game was a surprise. However,
I said in a previous post that the inconsistency of our star players like Harrison and Sampson have hurt us during key games and that none of that is on coach and the DePaul game was yet another example of that observation.
Some might even select Harrison as player of the game after scoring 25 points but in reality, he was one of the biggest factors in letting DePaul back into the game once SJ was up 20 points.  The most glaring example of his Heckle and Jekyll halves was his 6 turnovers and I lost count of bad offensive plays and out of control antics in the second half.  
As for Jakarr, kudos to Lavin for planting his butt on the bench after watching him forget he had teammates in the game while trying to get his points, which was a trademark of Jakarr in the January losses.
This game, though a win, put more doubts in the NCAA tourney selection committee as to our worthiness for an invitation.  While Xavier has clearly  separated itself from the bubble pack, with our struggle against DePaul, we have only raised doubts. That said, the future of this team is now in the hands of having Rysheed Jordan return to our backcourt. Speaking of our backcourt, we absolutely sucked today at handling the DePaul press and choked up 12 turnovers with Harrison the biggest choker.
Speaking of Sheed, I did not know before the game he would not play.  Had to log on at the start of the game to find out he was sitting to "mourn".  Now, I respect the kid if it was his decision but if it was the wizard's then it almost back-fired right into the NIT.  Jordan appeared very animated at the game and  his absence in the backcourt was obvious.
Nice crowd for senior day but Lavin laid his usual egg by not starting Marco, Gift and Primo. 
19-11 is still NIT and I see two more losses after today's sloppy play.  21-13 will not get us to the Dance unless there are very few conference upsets because regardless of RPI, SOS or whatever, going 1-7 against top 50 teams puts us outside the bubble.  The losses to DePaul and Xavier at home last week basically cooked our goose and the good news is a cooked goose cannot lay any more eggs.

If you are saying that this win puts more doubt into the committee's mind, does that mean that they take point differential into consideration? If they do, that could work in our favor. If ugly wins hurt us, good losses should help us. Yes we are 1-7 against top 50 teams..... but one loss was the first game of the season against #20 Wisconsin at a neutral location, one loss was against Syracuse, the number 2 team at the time, two losses were against #8/9 Nova, and one loss was at #20 Creighton on a last second 3 by the national player of the year. So 5 of those losses weren't just against top 50 teams, but also top 25. And we were in position to win every single one of those game. I know there are no such thing as 'moral' victories, but I don't think they are going to hurt us as much as people think.
 
I am very happy with this win and the large crowd for a noon game was a surprise. However,
I said in a previous post that the inconsistency of our star players like Harrison and Sampson have hurt us during key games and that none of that is on coach and the DePaul game was yet another example of that observation.
Some might even select Harrison as player of the game after scoring 25 points but in reality, he was one of the biggest factors in letting DePaul back into the game once SJ was up 20 points.  The most glaring example of his Heckle and Jekyll halves was his 6 turnovers and I lost count of bad offensive plays and out of control antics in the second half.  
As for Jakarr, kudos to Lavin for planting his butt on the bench after watching him forget he had teammates in the game while trying to get his points, which was a trademark of Jakarr in the January losses.
This game, though a win, put more doubts in the NCAA tourney selection committee as to our worthiness for an invitation.  While Xavier has clearly  separated itself from the bubble pack, with our struggle against DePaul, we have only raised doubts. That said, the future of this team is now in the hands of having Rysheed Jordan return to our backcourt. Speaking of our backcourt, we absolutely sucked today at handling the DePaul press and choked up 12 turnovers with Harrison the biggest choker.
Speaking of Sheed, I did not know before the game he would not play.  Had to log on at the start of the game to find out he was sitting to "mourn".  Now, I respect the kid if it was his decision but if it was the wizard's then it almost back-fired right into the NIT.  Jordan appeared very animated at the game and  his absence in the backcourt was obvious.
Nice crowd for senior day but Lavin laid his usual egg by not starting Marco, Gift and Primo. 
19-11 is still NIT and I see two more losses after today's sloppy play.  21-13 will not get us to the Dance unless there are very few conference upsets because regardless of RPI, SOS or whatever, going 1-7 against top 50 teams puts us outside the bubble.  The losses to DePaul and Xavier at home last week basically cooked our goose and the good news is a cooked goose cannot lay any more eggs.

If you are saying that this win puts more doubt into the committee's mind, does that mean that they take point differential into consideration? If they do, that could work in our favor. If ugly wins hurt us, good losses should help us. Yes we are 1-7 against top 50 teams..... but one loss was the first game of the season against #20 Wisconsin at a neutral location, one loss was against Syracuse, the number 2 team at the time, two losses were against #8/9 Nova, and one loss was at #20 Creighton on a last second 3 by the national player of the year. So 5 of those losses weren't just against top 50 teams, but also top 25. And we were in position to win every single one of those game. I know there are no such thing as 'moral' victories, but I don't think they are going to hurt us as much as people think.

Not an expert on the criteria used...I would imagine qualitative distinctions may come into play when they get to the point of splitting hairs
 
On the refs - DLo was getting mugged with monotonous regularity and no whistles were blown. I'm surprised and relieved that he didn't explode.

He was doing a lot of acting throwing his head back and the whatnot looking to get a call. I don't think the refs hurt us at all. We got a ton of blocks and did a great job protecting the rim without being whistled. That's how I want to see the game called not calling flops and fake whiplashes
 
On a related note, congrats to all the seniors...nice to see Marco get a cameo at the end...too bad things didn't work out better for him

Noticed that Edgar De la rosa (former Bishop Ford Falcon and current Manhattan assistant) accompanied Orlando...what's the connection?
 
On the refs - DLo was getting mugged with monotonous regularity and no whistles were blown. I'm surprised and relieved that he didn't explode.

He was doing a lot of acting throwing his head back and the whatnot looking to get a call. I don't think the refs hurt us at all. We got a ton of blocks and did a great job protecting the rim without being whistled. That's how I want to see the game called not calling flops and fake whiplashes

Agree...but he was getting banged numerous times in the open court with the game on the line in the final 2 minutes...Letting them play is one thing...Letting them saddle up is another
 
Just got home from game ( long day) didn't read the thread but bottom line Al Davis- Just win baby! Thought we moved the ball great in the first half and really missed Jordan in 2nd half. Bottom line we won and off to Marq. CO had more than the 5 blocks ESPN has him listed with.
 
I am very happy with this win and the large crowd for a noon game was a surprise. However,
I said in a previous post that the inconsistency of our star players like Harrison and Sampson have hurt us during key games and that none of that is on coach and the DePaul game was yet another example of that observation.
Some might even select Harrison as player of the game after scoring 25 points but in reality, he was one of the biggest factors in letting DePaul back into the game once SJ was up 20 points.  The most glaring example of his Heckle and Jekyll halves was his 6 turnovers and I lost count of bad offensive plays and out of control antics in the second half.  
As for Jakarr, kudos to Lavin for planting his butt on the bench after watching him forget he had teammates in the game while trying to get his points, which was a trademark of Jakarr in the January losses.
This game, though a win, put more doubts in the NCAA tourney selection committee as to our worthiness for an invitation.  While Xavier has clearly  separated itself from the bubble pack, with our struggle against DePaul, we have only raised doubts. That said, the future of this team is now in the hands of having Rysheed Jordan return to our backcourt. Speaking of our backcourt, we absolutely sucked today at handling the DePaul press and choked up 12 turnovers with Harrison the biggest choker.
Speaking of Sheed, I did not know before the game he would not play.  Had to log on at the start of the game to find out he was sitting to "mourn".  Now, I respect the kid if it was his decision but if it was the wizard's then it almost back-fired right into the NIT.  Jordan appeared very animated at the game and  his absence in the backcourt was obvious.
Nice crowd for senior day but Lavin laid his usual egg by not starting Marco, Gift and Primo. 
19-11 is still NIT and I see two more losses after today's sloppy play.  21-13 will not get us to the Dance unless there are very few conference upsets because regardless of RPI, SOS or whatever, going 1-7 against top 50 teams puts us outside the bubble.  The losses to DePaul and Xavier at home last week basically cooked our goose and the good news is a cooked goose cannot lay any more eggs.

Man, some things are just bigger than basketball. Who cares whose decision it was for him to sit? Murder-suicide of a relative, lost another one and a funeral just the other day which Lavin himself attended.

Give me a break.

Well my dear fellow it does make a very big difference whose decision it was for alas, in the throws of despair and only three days post said murder-suicide, we do know that in a huge must win game against Xavier, the wizard chose to delay all mourning and play the kid 30 minutes. That we were scheduled to play lowly DePaul 5 days later on the surface appears to be a selective mourning/player decision by the wizard and if it were not Sheed's request, smells of opportunism of the lowest form. That I sat 4 rows from the mourning site I was confused by the enthusiasm exhibited and chalk it up to coming from a hard scrabble north Philly but many coaches here of the pre-pubescents would have spared the kid Tuesday's game but who are we to judge other's bad judgments. But hey, I will give you the break I will not give the wizard because initially I was sparing him my overly critical tongue but other than our guards sucking in the second half upon rewind of my VCR tape of the beginning of the second half, I was reminded of his time out only around 40 seconds into the half from which we almost never recovered and whose time out was totally bewildering at the game but even more so when reviewed. I am sure during said time out he said something like "some things are bigger than basketball" and the team took it to heart and for the remainder of the game forget to play smart basketball. I especially liked the tenacity of the Blue Demons whose season was over 4 weeks ago when they stole the ball twice within 15 seconds and scored 5 points......in 15 seconds.
 
Ugly game. Kudos to Depaul for sticking with their press. Seemed our sloppiness and bad decision making was infectious. We were lucky to have Obekpa, Sanchez, and Sir Dom make some big plays down the stretch. Glad we got the win however unsatisfying it was. I think we need to beat Marquette and get to the Big East championship game to feel somewhat comfortable. Our 1-7 vs top 50 may stack up very poorly vs other bubbles.
 
After reading the thread - I think it's fair to question Lavin on a two things, 1st his use of timeouts. Why he called a timeout 40 seconds into a half and stopping momentum doesn't make sense to me then not calling a to earlier to stop the DePaul run. I also didn't understand why Branch sat on the bench as we continued turning the ball over in the 2nd half.

I think DLo needs to stop worrying about the refs.

It was good seeing Dom have a good game. I know he isn't a favorite on this board but if he able to find a role on this team I think he has potential to really help us out.


It was ugly but we got the win. On to !Marquette.
 
This was from Zagsblog:

"Lavin called this past week ”the most unusual that I’ve experienced in my career,” adding that five “loved ones” of players died in the past few days.

“Equally challenging and tragic and just unfortunate, we had five loved ones lost in a 24- or 36-hour period,” Lavin said.

St. John’s spokesman Mark Fratto confirmed that in addition to the two loved ones Jordan lost, two of Pointer’s relatives died in a violent incident in Detroit and that Sanchez’s mentor died of cancer.

Also during this past week, Sanchez became the father of a daughter, mixing in a blessing with the tragedies.

On the court, the team was somehow able to focus enough to win."
 
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