DePaul Game

[austour]

D-Lo had 10 rebounds today!!

He also forced a lot of bad shots.

He did bk, I agree. I think it was a combination of wanting to make up for the 1-11 shooting against Xavier and not having Rysheed there. I expect better decisions from him going forward as long as we can sustain a full roster with no more main rotation guys missing games. We've had Obepka, miss games, Sanchez out against Villanova which might have cost us that game because Obepka wasn't 100% either. then Rysheed misses this game. Branch missed some games. we need all hands on deck from here on in.

I think it was 100% lack of Rysheed, in fact he played pretty well in the 1st half. He went on a run of bad shots in the 2nd half with Branch on the bench. This put the ball in his hands too much letting him get into position to make those bad shots. Should not be a problem going forward as long as Lavin understands that for not one second the rest of the season should Jordan and Branch be on the bench at the same time. Both of them on the floor in the second half when the pressure started and this game doesn't even get withing 15 points.

 

[SJU61982]

Hard to believe but DePaul only out scored us by 4 pts in 2nd half (43-39). Seemed much worse.

We went on a run to start the second half. Pushed the lead from 12 to 20. That's +8 right there.

 

[RyGuyRedStorm]

This Rothstein is saying the we need to win the Big East Tournament to get in to the NCAA's not matter what. So he's in essence saying that we need 23 wins to make it. I don't agree. Lunardi has us in the first four out. 22 gets us in.

22 wins and we are dancing.

21 or less and we are NITing.

Winning the BET gives us a little higher of a seed and makes watching the Selection Show super easy.

Win 3 more and we should be very happy.

Are you paying attention to the bubble teams we're competing with, or just throwing 21 and 22 as arbitrary numbers?

Hmmmmm, let me think on that a bit.

Winning the BE is a necessity. We have no wins against top teams other than Creighton. I still think the BE gets only 4 bids.- Xavier, Creighton, Nova are three.

As of Thursday, Lunardi had us on the last four IN. Lunardi is scary accurate. If he had us on last four in before today's win, I doubt that we need to win BET to make it in. If we take care of Marquette, and win one in BET, I think we're in. Two wins locks it up IMO.

 

[tom in salem]

This Rothstein is saying the we need to win the Big East Tournament to get in to the NCAA's not matter what. So he's in essence saying that we need 23 wins to make it. I don't agree. Lunardi has us in the first four out. 22 gets us in.

22 wins and we are dancing.

21 or less and we are NITing.

Winning the BET gives us a little higher of a seed and makes watching the Selection Show super easy.

Win 3 more and we should be very happy.

Are you paying attention to the bubble teams we're competing with, or just throwing 21 and 22 as arbitrary numbers?

Hmmmmm, let me think on that a bit.

Winning the BE is a necessity. We have no wins against top teams other than Creighton. I still think the BE gets only 4 bids.- Xavier, Creighton, Nova are three.

As of Thursday, Lunardi had us on the last four IN. Lunardi is scary accurate. If he had us on last four in before today's win, I doubt that we need to win BET to make it in. If we take care of Marquette, and win one in BET, I think we're in. Two wins locks it up IMO.

Joe Lunardi ‏@ESPNLunardi 5h
OUT: Prov, Neb, StJohn, FlaSt. NEXT: Mizzou, Day, SoMiss, Marq. MORE: Gtown, LaTech, Utah, Richmond.

 

[MBoutchatski]

This Rothstein is saying the we need to win the Big East Tournament to get in to the NCAA's not matter what. So he's in essence saying that we need 23 wins to make it. I don't agree. Lunardi has us in the first four out. 22 gets us in.

He's been saying that prior to our game versus 'Nova.

i believe he started sayin that after the loss to nova but he's not the only one saying this now....seth davis uttered the same sentiments. our "only 1 big win" looks like it might come back to bite us.

 

[SJUalum98]

This Rothstein is saying the we need to win the Big East Tournament to get in to the NCAA's not matter what. So he's in essence saying that we need 23 wins to make it. I don't agree. Lunardi has us in the first four out. 22 gets us in.

22 wins and we are dancing.

21 or less and we are NITing.

Winning the BET gives us a little higher of a seed and makes watching the Selection Show super easy.

Win 3 more and we should be very happy.

Very funny that certain posters were claiming this 2 games ago before we played Nova.

 

[ZanMan]

This Rothstein is saying the we need to win the Big East Tournament to get in to the NCAA's not matter what. So he's in essence saying that we need 23 wins to make it. I don't agree. Lunardi has us in the first four out. 22 gets us in.

22 wins and we are dancing.

21 or less and we are NITing.

Winning the BET gives us a little higher of a seed and makes watching the Selection Show super easy.

Win 3 more and we should be very happy.

Very funny that certain posters were claiming this 2 games ago before we played Nova.

What's so funny about being positive about things for a change? The sky can't always be falling. I will see the glass as half full until it is finally emptied. Many posters here had this team dead in January. Others have remained optimistic. That's why they make vanilla and chocolate.

 

[Section3]

Back from game...I think defensive intensity is the key for us...it fueled our 9 of 10 run and was key to building lead in 1st half...you could tell by body language in 2nd half when we went up by 20 that we became overconfident...a few buckets later, DePaul was emboldened...started playing more aggressive defense and we didn't respond well...But, we got the win...so, that is what counts...

Some observations....

I think Lavin is better served using timeouts to remind the top 8-9 that the 5 on the court will be dictated by defensive intensity vs. using timeouts after made baskets...

PG IV? Pretty reliable spot up shooter but please don't lead a fast break...I think anyone would be hard pressed to point to one that we have completed with him leading the charge...committed the cardinal sin of passing once he drove past foul line...set me off to the point that some young guy asked if my son played for the team...he was a bit drunk but he appreciated fact that my enthusiasm was just founded in passion for SJ

 

[1and1sju]

I will see the glass as half full until it is finally emptied.

Um.. You realize that metaphor only works when, objectively, there is half a glass of something, right?
When there's less than half, and you're calling it half-full, that's being delusional.

 

[ZanMan]

I will see the glass as half full until it is finally emptied.

Um.. You realize that metaphor only works when, objectively, there is half a glass of something, right?
When there's less than half, and you're calling it half-full, that's being delusional.

Ummm, you do realize that as long as the season is still playing and we are in the discussion for the tourney on every TV and radio show, there IS a glass of SOMETHING, and we are just as much in the conversation than we are out.

We are clearly on the bubble, so how is this being delusional? How do you figure that is less than half? When you are on the bubble, that's a 50-50 kind of deal.

Delusional would be Seton Hall fans talking about their tourney chances.

I feel bad for fans who just can't enjoy a winning season without finding negatives in every positive that somebody else sees.

 

[BrookJersey Redmen]

Some people talk about the glass being half “empty”. Pessimistic.

Some people talk about the glass being half “full”. Optimistic.

I talk about the glass ‘being twice as large as it needs to be’. Realistic.

 

[plandome4]

I will see the glass as half full until it is finally emptied.

Um.. You realize that metaphor only works when, objectively, there is half a glass of something, right?
When there's less than half, and you're calling it half-full, that's being delusional.

And to think..you call yourself a fan...Pathetic!

 

[SJUalum98]

This Rothstein is saying the we need to win the Big East Tournament to get in to the NCAA's not matter what. So he's in essence saying that we need 23 wins to make it. I don't agree. Lunardi has us in the first four out. 22 gets us in.

22 wins and we are dancing.

21 or less and we are NITing.

Winning the BET gives us a little higher of a seed and makes watching the Selection Show super easy.

Win 3 more and we should be very happy.

Very funny that certain posters were claiming this 2 games ago before we played Nova.

What's so funny about being positive about things for a change? The sky can't always be falling. I will see the glass as half full until it is finally emptied. Many posters here had this team dead in January. Others have remained optimistic. That's why they make vanilla and chocolate.

Because the only thing that was funny about that "3 and we're in" prediction was funny math.

It wasn't about being an optimist or a pessimist.

It's the fact that some posters (I never mentioned you) were boasting prior to us playing Nova as if 3 wins got us somewhere. People were giving postell25 such a hard time because he knew it simply wasn't that cut and dry.

I believe deep down every SJU fan is hopeful.

But we still have a lot of work to do and need much help not only in our conference but all around the country.

 

[qcredman]

Are we going to spend the upcoming week enjoying the luxury (for us) of being serious contenders for an NCAA berth or figuring out the reasons why we are going to lose to Marquette?

 

[mjmaherjr]

Will take the win but it didn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies sitting through the 2nd half.

Loved the way D'lo has been getting after rebounds.

Funny thing was when CO got the ball on the left wing near us ( opposite side of our bench ) and we were cringing and then he took it to the hoop and then made a great pass underneath the hoop. Next year he can be lights out when he puts everything together

Anyway now lets beat marquette

And that beer that tasted like a milk shake that Mkras turned me on to at the thirsty fan was great too

 

[gman]

Back from game...I think defensive intensity is the key for us...it fueled our 9 of 10 run and was key to building lead in 1st half...you could tell by body language in 2nd half when we went up by 20 that we became overconfident...a few buckets later, DePaul was emboldened...started playing more aggressive defense and we didn't respond well...But, we got the win...so, that is what counts...

Some observations....

I think Lavin is better served using timeouts to remind the top 8-9 that the 5 on the court will be dictated by defensive intensity vs. using timeouts after made baskets...

PG IV? Pretty reliable spot up shooter but please don't lead a fast break...I think anyone would be hard pressed to point to one that we have completed with him leading the charge...committed the cardinal sin of passing once he drove past foul line...set me off to the point that some young guy asked if my son played for the team...he was a bit drunk but he appreciated fact that my enthusiasm was just founded in passion for SJ

Lavin is the worst time-out user in college basketball. He tries his hardest to wait until the tv timeout instead of stopping the bleeding. Everyone in the building knew we need to call a time out after the two dunks by Depaul.

Greene and Dom can't run a fast break. Dom should NEVER run a fast break. Both were also today about driving in the lane with no thoughts about what the were going with the ball.

The other thing that killed us today were the refs. I don't normally get on refs, but they called nothing on Depaul today. Their run in the 2nd half never should have happened because a few of our 0-fers on offense should have resulted in us going to the line.

 

[Moon Mullen]

Back from game...I think defensive intensity is the key for us...it fueled our 9 of 10 run and was key to building lead in 1st half...you could tell by body language in 2nd half when we went up by 20 that we became overconfident...a few buckets later, DePaul was emboldened...started playing more aggressive defense and we didn't respond well...But, we got the win...so, that is what counts...

Some observations....

I think Lavin is better served using timeouts to remind the top 8-9 that the 5 on the court will be dictated by defensive intensity vs. using timeouts after made baskets...

PG IV? Pretty reliable spot up shooter but please don't lead a fast break...I think anyone would be hard pressed to point to one that we have completed with him leading the charge...committed the cardinal sin of passing once he drove past foul line...set me off to the point that some young guy asked if my son played for the team...he was a bit drunk but he appreciated fact that my enthusiasm was just founded in passion for SJ

This has been a recurring problem, reminds me of Mahony's use of timeouts.
Lavin is the worst time-out user in college basketball. He tries his hardest to wait until the tv timeout instead of stopping the bleeding. Everyone in the building knew we need to call a time out after the two dunks by Depaul.

Greene and Dom can't run a fast break. Dom should NEVER run a fast break. Both were also today about driving in the lane with no thoughts about what the were going with the ball.

The other thing that killed us today were the refs. I don't normally get on refs, but they called nothing on Depaul today. Their run in the 2nd half never should have happened because a few of our 0-fers on offense should have resulted in us going to the line.

 

[qcredman]

On the refs - DLo was getting mugged with monotonous regularity and no whistles were blown. I'm surprised and relieved that he didn't explode.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

we are 1-7 against the top 50 so i believe with that record the selection committee wont give us a bid....so its win the big east tourney.,...or go to the NIT.

the fact is we really performed poorly against the good teams on our schedule and we have put ourselves in a bad position now. not impossible but bad.

 

[Class of 72]

I am very happy with this win and the large crowd for a noon game was a surprise. However,
I said in a previous post that the inconsistency of our star players like Harrison and Sampson have hurt us during key games and that none of that is on coach and the DePaul game was yet another example of that observation.
Some might even select Harrison as player of the game after scoring 25 points but in reality, he was one of the biggest factors in letting DePaul back into the game once SJ was up 20 points.  The most glaring example of his Heckle and Jekyll halves was his 6 turnovers and I lost count of bad offensive plays and out of control antics in the second half.  
As for Jakarr, kudos to Lavin for planting his butt on the bench after watching him forget he had teammates in the game while trying to get his points, which was a trademark of Jakarr in the January losses.
This game, though a win, put more doubts in the NCAA tourney selection committee as to our worthiness for an invitation.  While Xavier has clearly  separated itself from the bubble pack, with our struggle against DePaul, we have only raised doubts. That said, the future of this team is now in the hands of having Rysheed Jordan return to our backcourt. Speaking of our backcourt, we absolutely sucked today at handling the DePaul press and choked up 12 turnovers with Harrison the biggest choker.
Speaking of Sheed, I did not know before the game he would not play.  Had to log on at the start of the game to find out he was sitting to "mourn".  Now, I respect the kid if it was his decision but if it was the wizard's then it almost back-fired right into the NIT.  Jordan appeared very animated at the game and  his absence in the backcourt was obvious.
Nice crowd for senior day but Lavin laid his usual egg by not starting Marco, Gift and Primo. 
19-11 is still NIT and I see two more losses after today's sloppy play.  21-13 will not get us to the Dance unless there are very few conference upsets because regardless of RPI, SOS or whatever, going 1-7 against top 50 teams puts us outside the bubble.  The losses to DePaul and Xavier at home last week basically cooked our goose and the good news is a cooked goose cannot lay any more eggs.