D'Angelo Harrison

[we are sju]

72 i get your concern but i have also seen my fair share of kids who either came into my classroom or my track practices and turned their crummy a** attitudes around. I defer to Lavins appraisal. If he is good with it so am I.

I am all for giving young people second and third chances. I am not sure some here, desperate for an edge to win a game or two, understand the depth of the issue with this young man. Had it not been for Lavin's intervention last year, coach Dunlap was ready to dismiss him from the team......while Lavin was recovering from cancer surgery! Had we not had just 6 new players to compete in a brutal Big East, he would have been gone. The issue of his "maturity" was evident when Lav returned and was so bad that he was suspended...twice! I personally do NOT trust Lavin's judgment in this case since it took "other" staff to "convince" him of the damage this kid was doing. From what I heard, his erratic behavior become so bad that it destroyed his own "game" as the past month or so is witness.
Someone I know has a child attending SJ who lives in the dorms. From what they told their dad after this suspension was that he is no better to his fellow students. He is not practicing, not interacting in team activities and was given a workout schedule. Like a former member of the women's team who put her problems on others, I doubt those workouts will improve his "attitude".
I have not been a fan of his game since early in the season when I heard he was a problem. When that translated into a one man show in games, it hardened my opinion even more.
Does it say something to you when we recruit 7 top 100 kids and the entire offense is being dictated by one player? Last year Nurideen Lindsey thought he should be that player, and this year it was Harrison. You cut your losses with players with that frame of mind and replace them ASAP.
As for options, this story is less than a week old. By the April signing period his options will become clearer if we sign RJ. Trust me, if that happens, he is gone!

So basically recruit a 19 year old kid and if you can't reach him dump him and move on? I understand that college sports is a buisness, but your post basically throws support behind the real buisnessmen in this deal the University and coaches while basically treating the players like cattle. Lavin recruited Harrison and Nuri and you make it like Harrison some how let Lavin down? If Harrison is a pain, and by all accounts he is, Lavin is culpable in this and takes a hit as well. In this situation he is not some sort of sympathetic figure. And by the way whose fault was it that Nuri left, Harrison was a pain and we only had 5 other scholarship players?
I hope this can get worked out, but if it doesn't it is really convenient to blame Harrison while making Lavin out to be some kind of victim.

No offense, but when does personal responsbility kick in, instead of spreading out culpability on Lavin for recruiting or somehow mismanaging a player . From what I understand Harrison is a very troubled guy who may not just need a change in attitude, but medical treatment. However, while I think it would be great if the university gets him help, whether therapy, or psychiatric help, the mere expression that he wants to stay at St. John's shouldn't be seen as something wonderful What would be a wonderful first step is for harrison to admit he has disrespected coaches and teammates, and that he owes a huge apology to them. Second he must not just promise not to do this again, but get the help he needs to deal with anger issues, and begin to respect authority figures in his life (coaches, teachers, bosses, etc). Third he must be aware that the only proofe of this change is to avoid at all costs these outbursts and negative attitude that is destroying his collegiate tenure. The first steps in my opinion are not enough. A tough guy doesn't curse his coaches and teammates out, he publicly acknowledges what an ass he has been, and beings to take corrective action

He was never arrested, has not been involved in any fights with teamates, students or coaches and from what we understand is in good academic standing. Yet your understanding is he may need some sort of "psychiatric or medical treattment" ? Where may I ask are you getting that info from? Better yet when Ron Artest a player who not only needed help, but to his credit seeked it out(though I don't think it has taken hold) was here were you advocating throwing him off the team?

Who said he was arrested or got in a fight? He was disruptive and over the top disrespectful. This is acceptable because he didn't punch anyone? He was wrong and I for one agree that an apology and acknowledgement and recognition of being the cause of the situation goes a long way in my mind. If he needs help get help. Why defend his actions?

He never did. He is saying that the medical treatment comment was absurd and it is

How do you know what help he needs or doesn't? I hope Harrison straightens himself out but if you don't think the lack of self control he has to get to this point isn't a legitimate problem you're wrong.

Ok, since none of us know what he needs or doesn't why would someone offer up psychiatric help? Evidently the kid is a pain and I am not disputing that. Again from what all of us have seen his on court, his antics are no worse than what Bobby Hurley was doing at Duke.

 

[beast of the east]

72 i get your concern but i have also seen my fair share of kids who either came into my classroom or my track practices and turned their crummy a** attitudes around. I defer to Lavins appraisal. If he is good with it so am I.

I am all for giving young people second and third chances. I am not sure some here, desperate for an edge to win a game or two, understand the depth of the issue with this young man. Had it not been for Lavin's intervention last year, coach Dunlap was ready to dismiss him from the team......while Lavin was recovering from cancer surgery! Had we not had just 6 new players to compete in a brutal Big East, he would have been gone. The issue of his "maturity" was evident when Lav returned and was so bad that he was suspended...twice! I personally do NOT trust Lavin's judgment in this case since it took "other" staff to "convince" him of the damage this kid was doing. From what I heard, his erratic behavior become so bad that it destroyed his own "game" as the past month or so is witness.
Someone I know has a child attending SJ who lives in the dorms. From what they told their dad after this suspension was that he is no better to his fellow students. He is not practicing, not interacting in team activities and was given a workout schedule. Like a former member of the women's team who put her problems on others, I doubt those workouts will improve his "attitude".
I have not been a fan of his game since early in the season when I heard he was a problem. When that translated into a one man show in games, it hardened my opinion even more.
Does it say something to you when we recruit 7 top 100 kids and the entire offense is being dictated by one player? Last year Nurideen Lindsey thought he should be that player, and this year it was Harrison. You cut your losses with players with that frame of mind and replace them ASAP.
As for options, this story is less than a week old. By the April signing period his options will become clearer if we sign RJ. Trust me, if that happens, he is gone!

So basically recruit a 19 year old kid and if you can't reach him dump him and move on? I understand that college sports is a buisness, but your post basically throws support behind the real buisnessmen in this deal the University and coaches while basically treating the players like cattle. Lavin recruited Harrison and Nuri and you make it like Harrison some how let Lavin down? If Harrison is a pain, and by all accounts he is, Lavin is culpable in this and takes a hit as well. In this situation he is not some sort of sympathetic figure. And by the way whose fault was it that Nuri left, Harrison was a pain and we only had 5 other scholarship players?
I hope this can get worked out, but if it doesn't it is really convenient to blame Harrison while making Lavin out to be some kind of victim.

No offense, but when does personal responsbility kick in, instead of spreading out culpability on Lavin for recruiting or somehow mismanaging a player . From what I understand Harrison is a very troubled guy who may not just need a change in attitude, but medical treatment. However, while I think it would be great if the university gets him help, whether therapy, or psychiatric help, the mere expression that he wants to stay at St. John's shouldn't be seen as something wonderful What would be a wonderful first step is for harrison to admit he has disrespected coaches and teammates, and that he owes a huge apology to them. Second he must not just promise not to do this again, but get the help he needs to deal with anger issues, and begin to respect authority figures in his life (coaches, teachers, bosses, etc). Third he must be aware that the only proofe of this change is to avoid at all costs these outbursts and negative attitude that is destroying his collegiate tenure. The first steps in my opinion are not enough. A tough guy doesn't curse his coaches and teammates out, he publicly acknowledges what an ass he has been, and beings to take corrective action

He was never arrested, has not been involved in any fights with teamates, students or coaches and from what we understand is in good academic standing. Yet your understanding is he may need some sort of "psychiatric or medical treattment" ? Where may I ask are you getting that info from? Better yet when Ron Artest a player who not only needed help, but to his credit seeked it out(though I don't think it has taken hold) was here were you advocating throwing him off the team?

Who said he was arrested or got in a fight? He was disruptive and over the top disrespectful. This is acceptable because he didn't punch anyone? He was wrong and I for one agree that an apology and acknowledgement and recognition of being the cause of the situation goes a long way in my mind. If he needs help get help. Why defend his actions?

He never did. He is saying that the medical treatment comment was absurd and it is

I've heard whispers around the athletic department that this guy's outbursts are not just a bad temper. Jesus, have any of you guys ever played a sport beyond little league baseball. When and where was it ever not WAY OVER THE LINE to repeatedly have outbursts like Harrison's. You guys are apologists, and prisons are filled with young men who "are just kids" whose bravado spilled over into violence and outcomes that even when convicted, these young men put on a brave face for doin' what had to be done.

What most of us understand is that if we had ever behaved like that on a court, after the teammate started kicking your ass, your father would finish the job for you acting like a punk. You who think these are simply immature acts need help yourselves, because you will be letting your own little Johnnies act out, not just as brats, but as miscreants who have no respect for anyone.

 

[Redfaced]

72 i get your concern but i have also seen my fair share of kids who either came into my classroom or my track practices and turned their crummy a** attitudes around. I defer to Lavins appraisal. If he is good with it so am I.

I am all for giving young people second and third chances. I am not sure some here, desperate for an edge to win a game or two, understand the depth of the issue with this young man. Had it not been for Lavin's intervention last year, coach Dunlap was ready to dismiss him from the team......while Lavin was recovering from cancer surgery! Had we not had just 6 new players to compete in a brutal Big East, he would have been gone. The issue of his "maturity" was evident when Lav returned and was so bad that he was suspended...twice! I personally do NOT trust Lavin's judgment in this case since it took "other" staff to "convince" him of the damage this kid was doing. From what I heard, his erratic behavior become so bad that it destroyed his own "game" as the past month or so is witness.
Someone I know has a child attending SJ who lives in the dorms. From what they told their dad after this suspension was that he is no better to his fellow students. He is not practicing, not interacting in team activities and was given a workout schedule. Like a former member of the women's team who put her problems on others, I doubt those workouts will improve his "attitude".
I have not been a fan of his game since early in the season when I heard he was a problem. When that translated into a one man show in games, it hardened my opinion even more.
Does it say something to you when we recruit 7 top 100 kids and the entire offense is being dictated by one player? Last year Nurideen Lindsey thought he should be that player, and this year it was Harrison. You cut your losses with players with that frame of mind and replace them ASAP.
As for options, this story is less than a week old. By the April signing period his options will become clearer if we sign RJ. Trust me, if that happens, he is gone!

So basically recruit a 19 year old kid and if you can't reach him dump him and move on? I understand that college sports is a buisness, but your post basically throws support behind the real buisnessmen in this deal the University and coaches while basically treating the players like cattle. Lavin recruited Harrison and Nuri and you make it like Harrison some how let Lavin down? If Harrison is a pain, and by all accounts he is, Lavin is culpable in this and takes a hit as well. In this situation he is not some sort of sympathetic figure. And by the way whose fault was it that Nuri left, Harrison was a pain and we only had 5 other scholarship players?
I hope this can get worked out, but if it doesn't it is really convenient to blame Harrison while making Lavin out to be some kind of victim.

I will leave the criticism of Lavin to others here with a bigger ax to grind than me. This situation was not about Lavin. There are "hundreds" of players that move from school to school every year! They move to benefit themselves and the future of the team and their teammates is usually secondary. If they are treated like "cattle" there sure are a lot of bulls in the herd! I am not sure you understand what it takes for a player, your leading scorer, to be banished from team activities. It is convenient for some here to trivialize this and make DH a martyr. I said....I do not trust Lavin's judgment on this but would you rather alienate your staff or one player?
Scholarships are granted year-to-year. Had this player been Marc-Antoine Bourgault or Felix Balamou, I am pretty sure some here would be praising Lavin for freeing up a scholie for Jordan and possibly the kid from CTK.
If you have not figured out this is a business by now, you better start following the fencing team. There is no longer a Big East as we knew it because Syracuse, Pitt, ND, Rutgers, WV, Louisville .......and if they can market themselves to the ACC or Big, Cincy and Uconn in a NY minute would leave.....never once thinking about the fans, the players or rivalries.

I am not blaming Lavin here, and again by all accounts Harrison might be a jerk. My only issue was with some posters claiming Lavin was some sort of hero and that his situation is a good thing. It is neither.
My only issue with your last post was I do feel even though they are given a great opportunity, the players are more or less pawns here. Coaches can move around freely while players are forced to sit out. And the universities profit from them and most players do not make the NBA even though that is their only life skill. So when you say send Harrison packing, a player that the coach recruited to make way for a potentially better player in Jordan that is just not right IMO. Fundamentally speaking anyway. If that scenerio plays out and we make the final 4 I am pretty sure I won't be complaining

This entire thread is a microcosm of society in general today. It's like when a teacher sends a progress report home to a parent cause their child is failing and the parents reaction is " if my kid is doing bad in school, the teacher must not be competent, not know how to teach". For those of you who just don't get it, it was Harrison that caused this problem to begin with. He was given numerous chances and failed at what's he needed to do. It was Harrison who let down His team. It is Harrison who may cause us not to make the tourney and it was Harrison who disappointed the fan base, not the coaching staff. Why is any of this on Lavin. Harrison knew the rules and team expectations but didn't meet them. Put the blame where it clearly belongs and get off coach Lavin for this.

 

[Marillac]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

 

[Jack Williams]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

 

[Class of 72]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

 

[Jack Williams]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

 

[dee]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

Even with Harrison we need other outside shooters. Where are they?

 

[beast of the east]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

Sorry, Jack. First off, if you are really 15, which I also doubt, you really think calling out adults on how a 19 year old is upposed to be behave is a little odd. Second of all, a player who goes off repeatedly on teammates and coaches, can't follow team rules, and gets suspended for the season is absoultely NOT the least of our problems. If it were, there is no way he would have been suspended

 

[Moose]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

Sorry, Jack. First off, if you are really 15, which I also doubt, you really think calling out adults on how a 19 year old is upposed to be behave is a little odd. Second of all, a player who goes off repeatedly on teammates and coaches, can't follow team rules, and gets suspended for the season is absoultely NOT the least of our problems. If it were, there is no way he would have been suspended

What the hell does age have to do with anything? At 15 he posts better than half the board. Just because he's 15 he can't comment on how some 'adults' who go overboard post? Come on Beast.

Seriously this site is going off the deep end between all the crap on and off the court that happened this week. Its insane.

 

[Class of 72]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

First of all, cut the "I am 15 and never been kissed" crap! You inserted that phony DOB to escape our old men wrath! It is not going to work! Being an amateur handwriting analyst, on top of being a bird watcher, you are 15 on one leg.
As for what happened tonight....two players went off on each other. It was as simple as that. The endee player was just as much at fault. I do not think ND has any plans to fire its coach or that their program has hit rock bottom just because of a fight.
As for Harrison, he is part of the problem because he was no longer part of the solution. He, and he alone, put himself in this situation. In turning his back on his team and the coaches, what happened tonight may not have happened.
This game was lost in a quick 5 minute span! Our coach had no answers in those 5 minutes and no player combinations of all the bad combinations our brainy coach has tried could salvage a win.
No go to bed Biff, you have Biology at 8:45.

 

[Jack Williams]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

Sorry, Jack. First off, if you are really 15, which I also doubt, you really think calling out adults on how a 19 year old is upposed to be behave is a little odd. Second of all, a player who goes off repeatedly on teammates and coaches, can't follow team rules, and gets suspended for the season is absoultely NOT the least of our problems. If it were, there is no way he would have been suspended

I get it we disagree about DLO, I can live with that. What pisses me off is that you are calling me out for lying about my age!? I posted on here For a good year without ever saying my age. I finally said something about it because joe 3 said he was getting disrespect because he's 18. I wanted to prove to him that age doesn't matter. For the most part on this board, it doesn't. But even JOE3 is right sometimes, because I have someone calling me out saying I'm lying about my age. Do you seriously have any leverage to make that assessment? 72 and BOTE with all due respect I'd like a pm from both of you explaining why you think you have the right to say that on an open forum. Or you can just say it here. Whatever works, but I am just curious to see why you are telling me I'm not 15, you have no idea who I am that's why if you said you were 10 I'd have no reason to disagree because I don't know you.

 

[Jack Williams]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

First of all, cut the "I am 15 and never been kissed" crap! You inserted that phony DOB to escape our old men wrath! It is not going to work! Being an amateur handwriting analyst, on top of being a bird watcher, you are 15 on one leg.
As for what happened tonight....two players went off on each other. It was as simple as that. The endee player was just as much at fault. I do not think ND has any plans to fire its coach or that their program has hit rock bottom just because of a fight.
As for Harrison, he is part of the problem because he was no longer part of the solution. He, and he alone, put himself in this situation. In turning his back on his team and the coaches, what happened tonight may not have happened.
This game was lost in a quick 5 minute span! Our coach had no answers in those 5 minutes and no player combinations of all the bad combinations our brainy coach has tried could salvage a win.
No go to bed Biff, you have Biology at 8:45.

My dad graduated from sju the year they went to the final four, he got me into sju basketball when I was around 12, really started to enjoy them when hardy had that great season. I hope I passed your background check I really do.

 

[mjmaherjr]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

First of all, cut the "I am 15 and never been kissed" crap! You inserted that phony DOB to escape our old men wrath! It is not going to work! Being an amateur handwriting analyst, on top of being a bird watcher, you are 15 on one leg.
As for what happened tonight....two players went off on each other. It was as simple as that. The endee player was just as much at fault. I do not think ND has any plans to fire its coach or that their program has hit rock bottom just because of a fight.
As for Harrison, he is part of the problem because he was no longer part of the solution. He, and he alone, put himself in this situation. In turning his back on his team and the coaches, what happened tonight may not have happened.
This game was lost in a quick 5 minute span! Our coach had no answers in those 5 minutes and no player combinations of all the bad combinations our brainy coach has tried could salvage a win.
No go to bed Biff, you have Biology at 8:45.

My dad graduated from sju the year they went to the final four, he got me into sju basketball when I was around 12, really started to enjoy them when hardy had that great season. I hope I passed your background check I really do.

72 is going to either see a library card from you or any naked sexting girl pix you have on your phone to remind him of that time he was in Vegas and almost got arrested as proof of age

 

[beast of the east]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

Sorry, Jack. First off, if you are really 15, which I also doubt, you really think calling out adults on how a 19 year old is upposed to be behave is a little odd. Second of all, a player who goes off repeatedly on teammates and coaches, can't follow team rules, and gets suspended for the season is absoultely NOT the least of our problems. If it were, there is no way he would have been suspended

I get it we disagree about DLO, I can live with that. What pisses me off is that you are calling me out for lying about my age!? I posted on here For a good year without ever saying my age. I finally said something about it because joe 3 said he was getting disrespect because he's 18. I wanted to prove to him that age doesn't matter. For the most part on this board, it doesn't. But even JOE3 is right sometimes, because I have someone calling me out saying I'm lying about my age. Do you seriously have any leverage to make that assessment? 72 and BOTE with all due respect I'd like a pm from both of you explaining why you think you have the right to say that on an open forum. Or you can just say it here. Whatever works, but I am just curious to see why you are telling me I'm not 15, you have no idea who I am that's why if you said you were 10 I'd have no reason to disagree because I don't know you.

Jack, I don't want to fet into a war with you, because frankly you're a great fan, and I've agreed with most of your posts. The last few you went on the offensive, which is unlike a typical 15year old trying to get along. Then again, I have a 16 year old, and he doesn't always try to get along. Enjoy your day, adn the team, and know we are on the same side of most issues.

 

[Northernmost]

Did someone say "Little Johnny"?

Teacher asks the kids in class: "What do you want to be when you grow
up?

"Little Johnny: "I wanna be a billionaire, going to the most expensive
clubs, take the best bitch with me, give her a Ferrari worth over a
million bucks, an apartment in Copacabana, a mansion in Paris , a jet
to travel through Europe , an Infinite Visa Card and to make love to
her three times a day".

The teacher, shocked, and not knowing what to do with the bad behavior
of the child, decides not to give importance to what he said and then
continues the lesson.

And you, Susie?

" I wanna be Johnny's bitch!":

 

[Class of 72]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Harrison is like 19 or 20 and feeds off of his emotions during the game. He needs to mature and develop a better attitude, but all his talk about how bad he is a joke.

He will come back stronger than ever and he is a Johnny. I am rooting for him big time, because we need him. He chose STJ once and now he's choosing them again. I love the kid as a player.

Yes. BOTE and JimSims give it a rest with Harrison really does dumping on a 19 year old all day really make your day better? Maybe Dlo will mature maybe he won't but we don't know yet so BOTE stop acting like you know all the answers you don't know Dlo and you don't know how this will end up now be nice and give the kid a chance. Jeez if all the players in the NBA acted the way they did when they were 19 what kind of league do you think it would be. College is a learning experience, I didn't get the memo that a sophomores maturity has maxed out already and neither did any of you so get off the dudes case

You must have missed not only the memo, but the reason(s) for our leading scorer being banished from all team activities. You think it had to do with "lack of maturity"?? It had to do with lack of respect. Pretending that it all comes down to a player being just 19 or 20 is bogus.......almost as bogus as your passing yourself off as a 15 year old.
Fans should not start second threads about a suspended player if you do not like what is being said about his behavior.
I will say this for the last time.....if this situation was about Balamou or Bourgault, some of you Harrison apologists would be celebrating the availability of two scholarships.
Let me repeat what was reported for your edification. This was not "opinion" or someone "dumping" on D'Lo. It was released by SJ to the media....and not by accident. Digest it well.

"[Harrison] led the team in times being kicked out of practice, times being late to team functions and times not being respectful to assistant coaches and support staff. His behavior the week Lavin was in Northern California mourning the loss of his father was the deal-breaker."

First of all, I have no idea why me being 15 is bogus, and second of all, after what happened tonight, Harrison's immaturity, disrespectful nature, whatever you want to call it, is the least of our problems

Sorry, Jack. First off, if you are really 15, which I also doubt, you really think calling out adults on how a 19 year old is upposed to be behave is a little odd. Second of all, a player who goes off repeatedly on teammates and coaches, can't follow team rules, and gets suspended for the season is absoultely NOT the least of our problems. If it were, there is no way he would have been suspended

I get it we disagree about DLO, I can live with that. What pisses me off is that you are calling me out for lying about my age!? I posted on here For a good year without ever saying my age. I finally said something about it because joe 3 said he was getting disrespect because he's 18. I wanted to prove to him that age doesn't matter. For the most part on this board, it doesn't. But even JOE3 is right sometimes, because I have someone calling me out saying I'm lying about my age. Do you seriously have any leverage to make that assessment? 72 and BOTE with all due respect I'd like a pm from both of you explaining why you think you have the right to say that on an open forum. Or you can just say it here. Whatever works, but I am just curious to see why you are telling me I'm not 15, you have no idea who I am that's why if you said you were 10 I'd have no reason to disagree because I don't know you.

You want a PM from me and BOTE? LOL!
Why would we doubt your age in an "open forum"? LMAO!
First things first......Joe3 never said he was 18. He graduated from Marist and is an adult male of 23 who wears medium tee shirts and is from LINY! Dave Krapinski once had a crush on him but broke off with him once he started posting here on redmen.
As for your age ..... You conveniently posted your DOB .......and then indicated you "go to SJU". For all I know you are a 15 year old SJ freshman and belong to Skull and Circle. Or, you are a 20 year old dork who likes to act 15 on the Web while rehearsing for the part of the "victim" on "To Catch a Predator". Either way, I do not give a FF.
There have been plenty of fans here that have disagreed with me about Harrison since November. To each his own but from what I observed, heard and read.....I feel I was correct in my views of this player while some were merely in love with his 25ft 3 point shot....... Most of which he missed in Big East play. That he became the biggest distraction to both the team and the coaches is why we are at the NIT/CBI crossroad we are today. You and others can harp all day about being 19 or 20 and using the "youth excuse" ad nauseum but I served in the military with plenty of 20 year olds when I was 23 and most grew up rather quickly in the face of adversity......but under guided discipline.
Our team, unfortunately, is severely lacking in that guided discipline and specifically, our backcourt tandems suck.
We need one or two new guards as I see none of our current players being the answer next year. Call me Mr. Dick but we need to free one or two ships...before this ship sails.

 

[red0356]

Is anyone else starting to feel like Harrison's suspension is due to academics?? I just heard Lavin interviewed and again I heard if D'Angelo has a good Spring and Summer, we'd love to have him back (paraphrasing). He also said he's concentrating on academics. Reading the tea leaves, I'm starting to think he was having problems with his grades. Anyone else getting this feeling?

 

[paultzman]

My gut reaction to the interview is Harrison will leave.

 

[ras]

If he leaves I think Lavin has to get a replacement.