D'Angelo Harrison

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/05/06/st-johns-red-storm-guard-dangelo-harrison-can-be-a-program-legend/

I didn't read this on any other threads. Good read and a fairly honest appraisal IMHO. If i am duplicating posts I apologize in advance.
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Just my opinion, I don't think he makes it as a first round talent. I never thought he could be more then a nice college player, and thats no insult. I wanna think if he busts it as hard as he can, I'm wrong.
 
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/05/06/st-johns-red-storm-guard-dangelo-harrison-can-be-a-program-legend/

I didn't read this on any other threads. Good read and a fairly honest appraisal IMHO. If i am duplicating posts I apologize in advance.
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Just my opinion, I don't think he makes it as a first round talent. I never thought he could be more then a nice college player, and thats no insult. I wanna think if he busts it as hard as he can, I'm wrong.
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From the article:

"St. John’s Red Storm guard D’Angelo Harrison happens to be one of college hoops’ best, unheralded volume-shooters. To call him a volume-shooter is a little unfair, but Harrison does have a habit of heat-checking it from five feet in front of the half-court line. He is also a player who has seen his fair share of off-the-court troubles that have resulted in his real-life, team suspensions."

Guys who miss two out of every three shots don't deserve to be mentioned among college's best shooters.

I do think Harrison has pretty good "tools". However, he is nowhere near a craftsman harnessing those tools consistently. To have any thoughts of the NBA, his shooting % must climb to near 50%, assists rise since he is a small 2 at best, ball handling improve, and become a much better defender.
 
I think it's an honest appraisal of him game, a little misleading about his "fair share of off-the-court troubles that have resulted in his real life team suspensions." He has only been suspended once, maybe benched multiple times but only suspended once so I think suspensions (plural) is incorrect. His fair share of off the court troubles (plural) is also misleading. It's basically the same attitude problem, not multiple troubles. He's never been in any trouble that I'm aware off.
 
I don't know what Harrison actually did in practice, or how many second chances Lavin gave him. So it's hard for me, or anybody else on the outside, to say whether the suspension was deserved or not.

But I think the fans that say Lavin is doing a great job and being a good teacher by disciplining him, are missing the mark.
If we're being honest - a great teacher nips it in the bud before it becomes an issue.

Suspending the player is an act of last resort. It's not necessarily the most principled or meritorious thing to do. Because by then shit has already hit the fan; so something obviously needs to be done.
Now maybe D'angelo was just so stubborn no one could have gotten through to him. I don't know. But if coach was doing a "great" job handling the situation, we wouldn't be talking about it.
 
Sending a strong message doesn't have to be the last resort. I guess fans can feel cheated because the suspension potentially cost us games.
 
I don't know what Harrison actually did in practice, or how many second chances Lavin gave him. So it's hard for me, or anybody else on the outside, to say whether the suspension was deserved or not.

But I think the fans that say Lavin is doing a great job and being a good teacher by disciplining him, are missing the mark.
If we're being honest - a great teacher nips it in the bud before it becomes an issue.

Suspending the player is an act of last resort. It's not necessarily the most principled or meritorious thing to do. Because by then shit has already hit the fan; so something obviously needs to be done.
Now maybe D'angelo was just so stubborn no one could have gotten through to him. I don't know. But if coach was doing a "great" job handling the situation, we wouldn't be talking about it.
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I agree. Discipline that has negative consequences on the team as a whole is a loss all around. Lavin's job is to win games and ensure proper on court conduct. I never saw DLo do anything during a game that drew any sort of reprimand by the refs. Missing Shots? He sure wasn't alone in that. I'd just like to know the details before throwing accusations around. The Evans scenario was similar in some ways and Dunlap, not Lavin, resolved that.
 
I don't know what Harrison actually did in practice, or how many second chances Lavin gave him. So it's hard for me, or anybody else on the outside, to say whether the suspension was deserved or not.

But I think the fans that say Lavin is doing a great job and being a good teacher by disciplining him, are missing the mark.
If we're being honest - a great teacher nips it in the bud before it becomes an issue.

Suspending the player is an act of last resort. It's not necessarily the most principled or meritorious thing to do. Because by then shit has already hit the fan; so something obviously needs to be done.
Now maybe D'angelo was just so stubborn no one could have gotten through to him. I don't know. But if coach was doing a "great" job handling the situation, we wouldn't be talking about it.
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didnt Lavin bench him or not start him during some games in the beginning of the season ?

It's not like Lavin didnt do anything all season and then just suspended him out of thin air
 
If I'm not mistaken, Harrison himself said, or at the least insinuated, Lavin was right to suspend him. Even if D'lo hadn't said it, I believe Lavin did what he had to do. I certainly don't think Lavin would have suspended his high scorer because of some flimsy reason, and D'lo certainly wouldn't have taken the road he did after the suspension if he felt it wasn't warranted.
 
Our Society has become one in which not only, second chances are championed but, sometimes 8 or 9 chances..

Too many criminals are returned to the community after committing horrific crimes that indicate they are incapable of being part of a lawful citizenry. Yet, the media and our broken Justice system bow to the argument that jails are overcrowded and, put these criminals back on our streets to commit more crimes..Criminal Rehabilitation? Statistics prove mostly not likely to happen.

The ultimate chutzpah is in SC where Mark Sanford, recently won a Special Election to the US Congress. He thanked his supporters for his 8th chance at public redemption.

Now, Harrison's issues are not of this magnitude but, it is apparent that a lot of his behavior issues were not just the one time episode but, a repeated pattern of improper behavior, attitude, etc.

It's often difficult for Coaches to provide meaningful discipline to a player, especially a gifted one, since the Coaches' livelihood is a function of a team's won/loss record.Lavin knew he was sacrificing that in suspending DLO. LET's all hope this young man returns to the team with a lesson learned, not only for basketball but, life in general.
 
Criminal Rehabilitation? Statistics prove mostly not likely to happen.
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Statistics prove the opposite. Most criminals are not recidivists. Most recidivists are under age 35. Perhaps you meant to say that anecdotal evidence proves that its not likely to happen.


The ultimate chutzpah is in SC where Mark Sanford, recently won a Special Election to the US Congress. He thanked his supporters for his 8th chance at public redemption.
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Once upon a time there was a little old lady who sold pretzels on a Wall Street street corner for $1. Every day a rich banker would leave a dollar when he passed the pretzel cart, but without ever taking a pretzel. This went on for 3 years. One day, when the banker left his usual dollar the old lady cleared her throat and said, “They’re $1.25 now.”


Now, Harrison's issues are not of this magnitude
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Excellent point. Harrison allegedly rolled his eyes after oversleeping, whereas criminals go to prison for committing rapes and murders and whatnot. Other than that you present a trenchant analogy.


It's often difficult for Coaches to provide meaningful discipline to a player, especially a gifted one, since the Coaches' livelihood is a function of a team's won/loss record.Lavin knew he was sacrificing that in suspending DLO.
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A less charitable explanation is that he was creating a pretty handy scapegoat for the string of losses he was staring in the face at the end of yet season of atrocious basketball. Anecdotal proof of which theory is that some people are still talking about Harrison's alleged bad attitude rather than Lavin's obviously moribund coaching skills.


LET's all hope this young man returns to the team with a lesson learned, not only for basketball but, life in general.
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I thought rehabilitation didn't work? If so Harrison should have received the death penalty. Why are you in favor of coddling eye rollers?
 
A less charitable explanation is that he was creating a pretty handy scapegoat for the string of losses he was staring in the face at the end of yet season of atrocious basketball. Anecdotal proof of which theory is that some people are still talking about Harrison's alleged bad attitude rather than Lavin's obviously moribund coaching skills.

Thankfully, Steve Lavin revived the moribund basketball program at my alma mater.
 
A less charitable explanation is that he was creating a pretty handy scapegoat for the string of losses he was staring in the face at the end of yet season of atrocious basketball. Anecdotal proof of which theory is that some people are still talking about Harrison's alleged bad attitude rather than Lavin's obviously moribund coaching skills.

Thankfully, Steve Lavin revived the moribund basketball program at my alma mater.
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Sorry but I must have missed the revival you're talking about. Hopefully next year at this time that statement will be more believable but even then I think a few years of success would be necessary to constitute a true revival. Here's hoping..........
 
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/storm_warning_oalUKIocpYeIkCZRbO47DN
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Negative tone from Lenn for no reason. I see the lunch between Coach Lavin and Harrison as a very good thing and not as Lenn put it, "Red Storm fans can only only hope it is not the last supper." He could have easily turned this into a positive article about a 19 year old kid trying to get back in good graces with his team and coach. I guess that doesn't generate the same interest as casting doubt on Harrison's future.
 
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/storm_warning_oalUKIocpYeIkCZRbO47DN
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Negative tone from Lenn for no reason. I see the lunch between Coach Lavin and Harrison as a very good thing and not as Lenn put it, "Red Storm fans can only only hope it is not the last supper." He could have easily turned this into a positive article about a 19 year old kid trying to get back in good graces with his team and coach. I guess that dosn't generate enough interest as casting doubt on Harrison's future.
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Totally agree. LR is often a trouble maker, like many of his peers.
 
You make a good point,Marillac.. Really no new info in the article. Futhermore, Lavins quotes lately about Harrison have indicated that he has been pleased w DLOs progress. But, then again,you never know.
 
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