Curbelo (Possibly) a Johnny

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Mullins Revenge said:
So how do you guys see this working?
Posh - pg
Curbello - sg
Pinzon - sf
Niwye - pf
Soriano - C

Wusu, Storr, King, Stanley, Mathis, Traore off the bench?

This is Duke of Earlington btw. I guess Im Mullins Revenge on this site.
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I don't see Pinzon beating out a 3rd year part-time starter in Wusu and a top 100 recruit in Storr, at least to begin the season. I like Pinzon and his potential, but you have to remember he missed a lot of time last year and was essentially out of the rotation by the end of the season. Also, I think if Curberlo comes here Posh moves more off ball and looks to score more. CMA experimented with him off-ball somrtimes when Wusu was in the game last season. Wouldn't surprise me if they talked to him about it and told him they need him to be more of a scorer with this roster makeup.

I think this would be the opening day starting lineup, with Storr likely to move into the starting 3 spot as the season progresses. As far as remaining scholarships I would think they would add a veteran at the 4 spot and let Stanley/Traore split minutes and back up that spot. Then maybe another big to push Soriano and Nyiwe at practice or hold the scholarship for mid-term transfers.

1. Curberlo / Pinzon / King
2. Alexander / Mathis
3. Wusu / Storr
4. (Transfer) / Stanley / Traore
5. Soriano / Nyiwe
 
SI1996 said:
Where does the scoring come from?
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Posh averaged 14 PPG last year
Wusu averaged 8 PPG last year
Mathis averaged 8 PPG last year
Curberlo averaged 8 PPG last year
Soriano averaged 6 PPG last year

That's already 44 points from just 5 players, and that's assuming none of them improve their scoring average, which is highly unlikely. Storr will probably average 8-10 PPG, Pinzon probably gets 6-8 PPG, Stanley will probably get you around 4-6 PPG, then you still have 2 scholarships available. Scoring won't be an issue, never has been for a Mike Anderson team, any time his team have struggled it's because they were bad defensively, like this past season.
 
MakingPlays said:
Posh averaged 14 PPG last year
Wusu averaged 8 PPG last year
Mathis averaged 8 PPG last year
Curberlo averaged 8 PPG last year
Soriano averaged 6 PPG last year

That's already 44 points from just 5 players, and that's assuming none of them improve their scoring average, which is highly unlikely. Storr will probably average 8-10 PPG, Pinzon probably gets 6-8 PPG, Stanley will probably get you around 4-6 PPG, then you still have 2 scholarships available. Scoring won't be an issue, never has been for a Mike Anderson team, any time his team have struggled it's because they were bad defensively, like this past season.
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Thanks for the detailed response. With that being said, would this be a better defensive team?
 
SI1996 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. With that being said, would this be a better defensive team?
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Still a lot up in the air, but if we're still under the assumption they are adding Curberlo and everyone is returning, then absolutely. You know Posh is one of the best on ball defenders in the nation, Curberlo, maybe not on Posh's level but he's up there, he's about as close to a Posh level defender as we'd find on the transfer market, and we know Mathis is a plus defender, who's not going to make many mistakes on that end. Then you have Nyiwe and Soriano who both really started to figure things out late in the season and both became really good rim protectors, Stanley looked good defensively when he played, and Wusu has always been solid and can switch 1-4.

The issues I thought we had last year is the newcomers took a long time to figure things out. As I mentioned above Nyiwe and Soriano didn't really figure it out until later in the season. Same can be said for Wheeler, although I don't think we could ever say Wheeler was bad, and he figured things out sooner than Nyiwe and Soriano. Stef Smith struggled a lot defensively that's why he lost his starting spot and never really got in good rhythm until the last few games. Coburn, was honestly really bad defensively for most of the season, he started to improve near the end, but was never really a plus defender. Pinzon always was a big lost on defense, but understandable he was a freshman a missed a lot of time.

It's just really hard when you run a unique system and you got so many new guys on the court at the same time and all of them trying to learn at the same time. This year, if all goes according they'll only have 1 or 2 guys on the court at a time that hasn't been in the system for a full year, so should be a lot less mistakes.
 
If Storr cant beat out Wusu then this team will be in trouble if no other impact players show up. And who among Posh, Curbelo, Mathis, Wusu and Pinzon is a reliable shooter. In terms of Posh and Curbelo reaking havoc, who did Posh reak havoc on this year? The good guards around the league will not be intimidated. Let's hope the Curbelo that shows up is not the "hot dog" Curbelo of this last season and we all better hope a few shooters materialize out of that mix.
 
Johnny Rapper said:
If Storr cant beat out Wusu then this team will be in trouble if no other impact players show up. And who among Posh, Curbelo, Mathis, Wusu and Pinzon is a reliable shooter. In terms of Posh and Curbelo reaking havoc, who did Posh reak havoc on this year? The good guards around the league will not be intimidated. Let's hope the Curbelo that shows up is not the "hot dog" Curbelo of this last season and we all better hope a few shooters materialize out of that mix.
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I have to agree that despite the fact that his steal numbers were similar to last year, Posh did not appear to me to be the dominant defender he was his freshman year.
 
Johnny Rapper said:
If Storr cant beat out Wusu then this team will be in trouble if no other impact players show up. And who among Posh, Curbelo, Mathis, Wusu and Pinzon is a reliable shooter. In terms of Posh and Curbelo reaking havoc, who did Posh reak havoc on this year? The good guards around the league will not be intimidated. Let's hope the Curbelo that shows up is not the "hot dog" Curbelo of this last season and we all better hope a few shooters materialize out of that mix.
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How is not beating out Wusu a sign of trouble? Wusu has starting experience and is one of the better returning guards stats wise in the conference. And as Amase has mentioned he did all that and missed the entire off-season last year. There would be no shame in Storr not beating him out immediately to start the season. Some of you guys disrespect Wusu so much, it's unreal. If Wusu transferred he could be a starter on a lot of tournament teams.
 
Mullins Revenge said:
So how do you guys see this working?
Posh - pg
Curbello - sg
Pinzon - sf
Niwye - pf
Soriano - C

Wusu, Storr, King, Stanley, Mathis, Traore off the bench?

This is Duke of Earlington btw. I guess Im Mullins Revenge on this site.
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Pinzon is not starting over Wusu.
 
Dan V said:
Hopefully he chooses SJU kid is a stud just had a rough year. Just look at the teams that are showing interest in him. Villanova has had great success in the Big East with dual PG lineups.
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Yes, but Wright would never play any of our guards. Nova exclusively plays five guys that can shoot from all three levels. They are a tough act to follow.
 
L J S A said:
Curbelo is the key to everything. Once he commits, guys who can score will want to play with him. They remember what he was.

Plus Posh and Curbelo in same backcourt will lead to a decent amount of junk points per game. Even our current guys can score on a breakaway created by a steal, right? RIGHT?:oops:
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if Curbelo comes I definitely owe you a lobster roll this summer for calling it weeks ago
 
Per Zach B: "Right now, I've been told that St John's is mostly focused on Andre Curbelo, Eric Williams Jr and Joe Toussaint. Cam Wynter is also in the mix. Will only take one guard".
 
MarkRedman said:
Per Zach B: "Right now, I've been told that St John's is mostly focused on Andre Curbelo, Eric Williams Jr and Joe Toussaint. Cam Wynter is also in the mix. Will only take one guard".
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Makes sense. We'd really be super small if you took more than one, and Soriano really isn't the type of big you can play with that many short guards.

Safe to assume Toussaint and Wynter are looking to be starters. Although I suppose a cream of the crop program with legit national title aspirations could entice them with a first guard off the bench role.
 
MarkRedman said:
Per Zach B: "Right now, I've been told that St John's is mostly focused on Andre Curbelo, Eric Williams Jr and Joe Toussaint. Cam Wynter is also in the mix. Will only take one guard".
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I hope this was free information, otherwise Zach needs to be ashamed of himself charging people for this basic information that anybody with common sense that half-way follows recruiting could have figured out themselves. I literally said this exact same thing in the transfers thread, gave a tier list of who I thought they would prioritize between Curbelo, Toussaint, and Wynter and said they'd only take one of them and that the other scholarship would goto a 4, and considering Williams is the only 4 they've been publicly linked to it's common sense he would be one of the guys they are most focused on.
 
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