Yes at this point of the season dont believe can’t expect anymore. Since the beginning kept expecting more
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I know Creighton is a tough place to play. But Vegas giving out a huge opportunity to win some nice cash on that money line.
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Nice story about Jenkins by Zach:
nypost.com
Overlooked Daniss Jenkins has been key to success for St. John’s, Rick Pitino
The commitment was hardly big news. Three days after Rick Pitino lost Walter Clayton Jr. to Florida, he landed his Iona backcourt-mate Daniss Jenkins.
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I mean this in the nicest way possible, and it applies to me as much as to any other diehard on this board, but I often wonder whether all fanbases are as "crazy" as our fanbase?! After 40+ years of heartbreak and/or no brakes for the Johnnies, it's not surprising that we likely all have PTSD and have been conditioned for the shoe to drop whenever things are going relatively well. Specifically, I'm not sure it's healthy how down we get after a loss (and/or how euphoric we all feel after a win)! I would say "ha!", but I'm kind of serious. Go Johnnies!!!
Not sure why some posters are obsessed with the betting line, it is irrelevant once the ball goes up.
Had a conversation with MjMaher after Washington beat Oregon for the Pac 12 Championship. Oregon opened as a 9.5 favorite even though they lost to Washington during the regular season. Can anyone give me a logical reason.
Here is my theory and I mat be completely off base. Oregon lost the first game by 3 points so it is safe to assume that they have a legitimate chance to win. If Oregon started out as a 1 or 2 point favorite, I can almost guarantee that there would have been an avalanche of money bet on them. Why, Oregon's quarterback is Bo Nix, who has been hyped for greatness since he first stepped on the field for Auburn. Washington's quarterback was Michael Penix, a transfer from Indiana. To try to balance the betting, the odds makers began the line at 9.5 to encourage bets on Washington.
Vegas may also have taken Race into consideration the race situation, Nix is White and Penix is Black. All factors being equal, who would the majority of bettors be more comfortable with, probably Nix.
Personally, I don't bet on sports. It's hard enough just rooting for my team to win, so I don't need any more aggravation. Question, if St Johns is winning by a comfortable margin towards the end of the game, but only 1 point up against the spread, do you want Coach to keep the starters inor play the reserves so they can get valuable experience. Now if St Johns wins and you lose your money because of the substitutions, are you happy???
Not to divert but doesn't margin of victory figure into calculated rankings.
Rick doesn't appear to have garbage time players. Nearly everyone gets used in competitive moments of the game, even if not in every game. It reduces need to look for garbage minutes so he has finished games with key players still on floor in big wins.
To answer your question, I'd never want a coach to play with any thought of the spread.
This has nothing to do with Coach Pitino, it was addressed to members of the board who may have bet on a game.
I believe that you have totally misunderstood my post Beast. I am also not referring to any of our players as Garbage Time, simply put, Drissa is not Ledlum, Simeon is not DJ and Conway is not Dingle or Dunlap..
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Betting lines are largely set by computer models. Take a look at something like KenPom. It has projected result for the rest of the year game by game. The opening Vegas line will generally be within 2 points of that a vast majority of the time.
I think it’s a very interesting question. I kinda stopped betting games but before this season there have definitely been games where I’ve taken the other team depending on the points and taken St. John’s giving points. If St John’s was giving 6 and up 7 with a minute to go the thought would never cross my mind if Rick put subs in and I lost. I’d just be ecstatic we won
I honestly can’t say I’d have felt the same way during the last 2 Norm years. Maybe I’d have felt the same way ( I kinda doubt it though ).
In hindsight, the better question would have been, how do you feel when St Johns wins and you lose your bet. Thanks MJ.
I’m fine with it. Managing money for a living losing a bet is nothing compared to a bad stock market day. lol
Losing fantasy football games in our Redmen league though might keep me up all night
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Can’t wait for this game! Creighton’s arena has been a house of horrors for us think we have only won a single game there ever and have been blown out a lot. I say that ends today we will at the very least make this a competitive game and I think we are going to win.
Without question, I'll trade the betting loss for a St. John's win any day. (Although, to be honest, the past 30 years have taught me about the "happiness hedge" of salvaging the small pleasure of a gambling win and St. John's loss.)