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Some posters occasionally rave about Providence and coach Cooley. Well here in Aruba there are many northeasterners and a handful from Providence. This morning several Friar fans expressed this about coach Cooley:
He’s a nice guy
He’s not good with x s and o s.
He’s made the tournament but never advanced passed the first round
Not crazy about him.

I’ll take Coach Mike Anderson, thank you!
:)
 
They are nuts. While, I believe that he has not done a great job this year...you have to be impressed with what he has done over his entire tenure at PC. This is his 9th season at PC. They have already made the NCAAs 5 years and he has already clinched at least at .500 conference record for the 7th time. He also did win an NCAA game in 2016 against USC in the 8-9 game. He has also gone to the NCAAs or NIT every year since his first season.

The previous 2 coaches were there for a combined 13 years, made it to the NCAAs twice with no wins and were .500 or better only 6 times. Cooley has probably come pretty close to the maximum possible at PC. They still think that Rick Pitino is walking through that door. But, fact is that they have won an NCAA tournament game in only 3 different seasons during my lifetime.
 
Yes, I think Cooley has no bearing on what I think about Anderson. I am highly optimistic and hopeful that Coach Anderson will bring a level of consistency back to the program.

As for Cooley, I find it ironic that any STJ fan would be critical of a guy that has had that kind of consistent success while we've (politely) languished for more than 2 decades. I would be glad if we can as a first step back to prominence, we would see that kind of consistent year in and year out performance from our guys. Let's do that first.
 
[quote="redmanwest" post=378551]Yes, I think Cooley has no bearing on what I think about Anderson. I am highly optimistic and hopeful that Coach Anderson will bring a level of consistency back to the program.

As for Cooley, I find it ironic that any STJ fan would be critical of a guy that has had that kind of consistent success while we've (politely) languished for more than 2 decades. I would be glad if we can as a first step back to prominence, we would see that kind of consistent year in and year out performance from our guys. Let's do that first.[/quote]

I don't think SJU fans are critical of Cooley in terms of success. He's just a prick. However everyone seems to have differing levels of what pricks they are ok with and which ones they despise. (ie Hurley, Huggins, etc etc etc)
 
[quote="weathermannyc" post=378547]They are nuts. While, I believe that he has not done a great job this year...you have to be impressed with what he has done over his entire tenure at PC. This is his 9th season at PC. They have already made the NCAAs 5 years and he has already clinched at least at .500 conference record for the 7th time. He also did win an NCAA game in 2016 against USC in the 8-9 game. He has also gone to the NCAAs or NIT every year since his first season.

The previous 2 coaches were there for a combined 13 years, made it to the NCAAs twice with no wins and were .500 or better only 6 times. Cooley has probably come pretty close to the maximum possible at PC. They still think that Rick Pitino is walking through that door. But, fact is that they have won an NCAA tournament game in only 3 different seasons during my lifetime.[/quote]. I would take Cooley’s record over the last 9 years compared to ours . He’s gotten a small , 5000 students , school in Rhode Island to a every year competitor in the BE . He rarely gets top 100 talent , although AJ Reeves was probably in that category . He’s a good Coach . Good enough to be offered and turn down the Michigan job . He likes his Hometown .
 
On the surface, he's like a bigger Jim Barron. He'll get you to a certain point, but if you want more than that, you'll need a new guy. But how much of the plateau can be attributed to where he coaches and how much is him?
 
[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=378521]Some posters occasionally rave about Providence and coach Cooley. Well here in Aruba there are many northeasterners and a handful from Providence. This morning several Friar fans expressed this about coach Cooley:
He’s a nice guy
He’s not good with x s and o s.
He’s made the tournament but never advanced passed the first round
Not crazy about him.

I’ll take Coach Mike Anderson, thank you!
:)[/quote]

I love Aruba! Go the last 2 weeks of July every year for the last 20 years
 
Friars fans prove the point that "you don't know what you've got until its gone."

In the decade and a half prior to Cooley showing up they had TWO first round NCAA exits and 3 NIT trips, one of which made it to round 2.

In 8 seasons under cooley they have FIVE NCAA appearances (once to the 2nd round) and 2 NIT (Once making the Quarter finals).

I get that they'd like to see more wins in March, but you have to be in it to win it. If Cooley left right now, its a coin flip as to whether they'd hire someone who could provide similar results or hire a flop and risk falling into irrelevance as we have for 20 years.
 
Cooley has also done a great job apparently in fundraising, especially in helping with development of new first class training facilities. He also networks well, such as his USA Basketball involvement. He can be prickly, as Moose noted & not John Wooden on sidelines, but recruits well and seems to motivate his players. I can’t imagine PC doing better.
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=378557][quote="weathermannyc" post=378547]They are nuts. While, I believe that he has not done a great job this year...you have to be impressed with what he has done over his entire tenure at PC. This is his 9th season at PC. They have already made the NCAAs 5 years and he has already clinched at least at .500 conference record for the 7th time. He also did win an NCAA game in 2016 against USC in the 8-9 game. He has also gone to the NCAAs or NIT every year since his first season.

The previous 2 coaches were there for a combined 13 years, made it to the NCAAs twice with no wins and were .500 or better only 6 times. Cooley has probably come pretty close to the maximum possible at PC. They still think that Rick Pitino is walking through that door. But, fact is that they have won an NCAA tournament game in only 3 different seasons during my lifetime.[/quote]. I would take Cooley’s record over the last 9 years compared to ours . He’s gotten a small , 5000 students , school in Rhode Island to a every year competitor in the BE . He rarely gets top 100 talent , although AJ Reeves was probably in that category . He’s a good Coach . Good enough to be offered and turn down the Michigan job . He likes his Hometown .[/quote]

His current team is loaded with top 100 players. He's always been able to land those types since he's been at Providence.

With that said, I have no issues with Cooley. He can occasionally be off-putting, as Moose mentioned, but I find it to be funny whenever Cooley does it, lol. He's likeable for the most part.

The only thing I'll say is if Providence makes it to the dance and once again lose in the first round, then the natives will continue to get restless. I'm positive some folks on here and in our fan base would be doing the same if the shoe was on the other foot.

Like I keep saying it's easy to dismiss that stuff when you're viewing things from our standpoint based on how our team has played lately. It won't be as easy to dismiss when in the same boat.
 
1) it would be a big mistake for Providence fans to yearn for anybody except Cooley. He’s a very good coach, hometown guy and consistency at the head coaching spot is soooo important. He’s landed good talent but has also had some real chemistry problems with his players. He’s solid though and will have more success if he lands the right guys.

2) Anderson is gonna be fantastic at SJU when he has talent. I’ve really enjoyed this team this season. The way we play is fantastic. To me, it’s obvious that we are just woefully short on talent. We have very few Big. East starting caliber talent and good teams have 5-12 of those types. That will come and I think everybody will be eating their words because Anderson can coach. We haven’t had much at all to work with this year. That’s not trying to knock the kids we have but we are slim on talent.

Overall Anderson will bear Providence consistently when we are rolling and the roster is stocked.
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=378557][quote="weathermannyc" post=378547]They are nuts. While, I believe that he has not done a great job this year...you have to be impressed with what he has done over his entire tenure at PC. This is his 9th season at PC. They have already made the NCAAs 5 years and he has already clinched at least at .500 conference record for the 7th time. He also did win an NCAA game in 2016 against USC in the 8-9 game. He has also gone to the NCAAs or NIT every year since his first season.

The previous 2 coaches were there for a combined 13 years, made it to the NCAAs twice with no wins and were .500 or better only 6 times. Cooley has probably come pretty close to the maximum possible at PC. They still think that Rick Pitino is walking through that door. But, fact is that they have won an NCAA tournament game in only 3 different seasons during my lifetime.[/quote]. I would take Cooley’s record over the last 9 years compared to ours . He’s gotten a small , 5000 students , school in Rhode Island to a every year competitor in the BE . He rarely gets top 100 talent , although AJ Reeves was probably in that category . He’s a good Coach . Good enough to be offered and turn down the Michigan job . He likes his Hometown .[/quote]

Actually there's 3 top 100's on the team right now (Duke #47, Reeves#48, Gantt #61) and one transferred out this summer (Langford).

PS I'm only looking at kids he recruited straight out of HS.
 
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[quote="austour" post=378603][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=378557][quote="weathermannyc" post=378547]They are nuts. While, I believe that he has not done a great job this year...you have to be impressed with what he has done over his entire tenure at PC. This is his 9th season at PC. They have already made the NCAAs 5 years and he has already clinched at least at .500 conference record for the 7th time. He also did win an NCAA game in 2016 against USC in the 8-9 game. He has also gone to the NCAAs or NIT every year since his first season.

The previous 2 coaches were there for a combined 13 years, made it to the NCAAs twice with no wins and were .500 or better only 6 times. Cooley has probably come pretty close to the maximum possible at PC. They still think that Rick Pitino is walking through that door. But, fact is that they have won an NCAA tournament game in only 3 different seasons during my lifetime.[/quote]. I would take Cooley’s record over the last 9 years compared to ours . He’s gotten a small , 5000 students , school in Rhode Island to a every year competitor in the BE . He rarely gets top 100 talent , although AJ Reeves was probably in that category . He’s a good Coach . Good enough to be offered and turn down the Michigan job . He likes his Hometown .[/quote]

Actually there's 3 top 100's on the team right now (Duke #47, Reeves#48, Gantt #61) and one transferred out this summer (Langford).

PS I'm only looking at kids he recruited straight out of HS.[/quote]

Nate Watson (#100). I'd even toss in Diallo (#117) and Maliek White (#127).
 
Not a Cooley fan because he dismisses St. John's, but he can coach.

Friar fans could do a lot worse.

Aruba in February is much nicer than Cranston.
 
As a reminder, Cooley had a losing record his first season at PC, including only 4 conference wins. PC was over 500 his second season, and 9 and 9 in the conference. CMA's first year will end with a very similar record to Cooley's first PC season.
 
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I think there is more pressure on Willard than Cooley. If he ever gets bounced early in NCAA, they are going to go nuts in South Orange. His NCAA record which includes a loss to CMA is not good
 
[quote="billthetruth" post=378627]I think there is more pressure on Willard than Cooley. If he ever gets bounced early in NCAA, they are going to go nuts in South Orange. His NCAA record which includes a loss to CMA is not good[/quote]

The Big East as a whole needs to improve our ncaa record with exception of Jay Wright.
 
[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=378521]Some posters occasionally rave about Providence and coach Cooley. Well here in Aruba there are many northeasterners and a handful from Providence. This morning several Friar fans expressed this about coach Cooley:
He’s a nice guy
He’s not good with x s and o s.
He’s made the tournament but never advanced passed the first round
Not crazy about him.

I’ll take Coach Mike Anderson, thank you!
:)[/quote]

Bon Bini! I really like Madame Jeannette Restaurant, General.

Those people from Providence are spoiled. Cooley does a good job coaching up what he has. They always end up a tougher out at the end then when they started. I hope Coach MA can do the same for us.
 
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