Coach Anderson

[quote="RedStormNC" post=369749]AP poll is irrelevant for what's important. From an era when analytics were less relevant.

Glad there is NET or similar tools vs. perception of a handful of sports media who likely don't watch more than a few games or follow a few teams.[/quote]

Agree that it's very biased especially in favor of big brand programs, but as much as I hate to say it, it does matter. Recruiting, millions of new eyeballs watching highlights on SportsCenter, seeing our score in the default section on ESPN which has top 25 listed first, and helps build hype and gets casual fans out. It def matters, but I won't be upset if we don't get ranked this year. I know we started off red hot and probably due to cool some, but NIT or better would be amazing.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=369751][quote="RedStormNC" post=369749]AP poll is irrelevant for what's important. From an era when analytics were less relevant.

Glad there is NET or similar tools vs. perception of a handful of sports media who likely don't watch more than a few games or follow a few teams.[/quote]


Agree that it's very biased especially in favor of big brand programs, but as much as I hate to say it, it does matter. Recruiting, millions of new eyeballs watching highlights on SportsCenter, seeing our score in the default section on ESPN which has top 25 listed first, and helps build hype and gets casual fans out. It def matters, but I won't be upset if we don't get ranked this year. I know we started off red hot and probably due to cool some, but NIT or better would be amazing.[/quote]

What matters is where you are ranked in March not November or December,
 
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Great play but the past is the past. Looking forward to Coach Anderson coaching more seasons at SJU than he has at any of his prior three stops. Also looking forward to him getting his six hundredth career win while at SJU. Lofty, not really considering the job he has done this season with the poor hand he was dealt. The entire four man staff is really working hard both inside and outside the gym on a constant basis. 12 years at SJU and 600 career wins is very possible.
 
every day is thank CMA day for me because other than the one clunker I've enjoyed the season.

Looking forward to kicking the duck out of providence. ( didnt want to offend any posters or encourage cursing or else they can luck off . lol )
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=372344]every day is thank CMA day for me because other than the one clunker I've enjoyed the season.

Looking forward to kicking the duck out of providence. ( didnt want to offend any posters or encourage cursing or else they can luck off . lol )[/quote]

Yeah lol luck off to you too
 
CMA is still ahead of expectations with one of the best OOC resumes in the country including a ranked Zona win (they have slipped recently but they will be ranked by year's end) and a now borderline top 10 win over WVU. And we avoided any truly bad losses. Vermont will probably win their conference and go to the tourney, so if that's the worst I'll take it in year 1. ASU isn't good but they always have our number.

Started Big East play and we all rolled our eyes with the "here we go again...0-5? 0-10?". 3 game skid but we were able to take down DePaul at least. This PC game is massive...difference between 2-3 right in the thick of things with tourney implications and being irrelevant at 1-4 written off the rest of the year. I'm expecting a loss because I'm so conditioned to lose to PC under Mullin, but we will see tonight if there's a real difference.

Right now my main concern is CMA's ability to recruit. Champ, Roberts, etc. did great in OOC but have stumbled for the most part in the Big East. Right now we don't have many true Big East players. Yes we are getting Posh coming off an injury and Cole and some other JUCO's...but IMO you can't be a top 3 Big East team every year and consistently make tourneys relying on JUCO talent. CMA needs to prove he can get a few 4 star HS kids and beat out some legit programs. That will make me trust him a lot more.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=372355]CMA is still ahead of expectations with one of the best OOC resumes in the country including a ranked Zona win (they have slipped recently but they will be ranked by year's end) and a now borderline top 10 win over WVU. And we avoided any truly bad losses. Vermont will probably win their conference and go to the tourney, so if that's the worst I'll take it in year 1. ASU isn't good but they always have our number.

Started Big East play and we all rolled our eyes with the "here we go again...0-5? 0-10?". 3 game skid but we were able to take down DePaul at least. This PC game is massive...difference between 2-3 right in the thick of things with tourney implications and being irrelevant at 1-4 written off the rest of the year. I'm expecting a loss because I'm so conditioned to lose to PC under Mullin, but we will see tonight if there's a real difference.

Right now my main concern is CMA's ability to recruit. Champ, Roberts, etc. did great in OOC but have stumbled for the most part in the Big East. Right now we don't have many true Big East players. Yes we are getting Posh coming off an injury and Cole and some other JUCO's...but IMO you can't be a top 3 Big East team every year and consistently make tourneys relying on JUCO talent. CMA needs to prove he can get a few 4 star HS kids and beat out some legit programs. That will make me trust him a lot more.[/quote]

i don't know that i completely agree with this.

agree player rankings matter, to an extent. quality of juco transfer matters, of course.

but to say that his success relies on the rankings of players is wrong.

to me, he has to prove that his system will win in the BE. therefore the rankings of the players don't matter as much, can the player excel in this system is the real question.

i look at the butler's, xavier's, creighton's, of the world consistently winning with guys that fit their system. i think that's what we should aim for.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=372355]CMA is still ahead of expectations with one of the best OOC resumes in the country including a ranked Zona win (they have slipped recently but they will be ranked by year's end) and a now borderline top 10 win over WVU. And we avoided any truly bad losses. Vermont will probably win their conference and go to the tourney, so if that's the worst I'll take it in year 1. ASU isn't good but they always have our number.

Started Big East play and we all rolled our eyes with the "here we go again...0-5? 0-10?". 3 game skid but we were able to take down DePaul at least. This PC game is massive...difference between 2-3 right in the thick of things with tourney implications and being irrelevant at 1-4 written off the rest of the year. I'm expecting a loss because I'm so conditioned to lose to PC under Mullin, but we will see tonight if there's a real difference.

Right now my main concern is CMA's ability to recruit. Champ, Roberts, etc. did great in OOC but have stumbled for the most part in the Big East. Right now we don't have many true Big East players. Yes we are getting Posh coming off an injury and Cole and some other JUCO's...but IMO you can't be a top 3 Big East team every year and consistently make tourneys relying on JUCO talent. CMA needs to prove he can get a few 4 star HS kids and beat out some legit programs. That will make me trust him a lot more.[/quote]

Which of our players do you feel are not "True" Big East players?
 
Many were just saying before the DePaul game how we need a big talent upgrade. Beating DePaul doesn't really change that IMO. I think Champ and Roberts would be bench players for some Big East teams. Dunn can score but he's a volume guy...which we clearly need this year but would be nice if he made 3's with regularity too. Caraher isn't the most athletic, so he's constantly guarded fairly easily and he needs to be wide open to make 3's some of the time but even that's no sure thing. Earlington has surprised me and I'm very confident anytime he gets the ball in the paint within a few feet. He's a great finisher even through contact...strong kid.

Obviously if Champ and Roberts were doing what they did in OOC I would be much more confident. But since conference play, they have mostly disappeared with a few exceptions. Steere also looks lost so who is our big man we can rely on? If it's not talent and it's just effort, then I expect to see the OOC versions of Roberts and Champ tonight. We will learn a lot about CMA tonight going either 1-4 or 2-3. The Mullin way would be to get blown out and go to 1-4 then like 1-7.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=372370]Many were just saying before the DePaul game how we need a big talent upgrade. Beating DePaul doesn't really change that IMO. I think Champ and Roberts would be bench players for some Big East teams. Dunn can score but he's a volume guy...which we clearly need this year but would be nice if he made 3's with regularity too. Caraher isn't the most athletic, so he's constantly guarded fairly easily and he needs to be wide open to make 3's some of the time but even that's no sure thing. Earlington has surprised me and I'm very confident anytime he gets the ball in the paint within a few feet. He's a great finisher even through contact...strong kid.

Obviously if Champ and Roberts were doing what they did in OOC I would be much more confident. But since conference play, they have mostly disappeared with a few exceptions. Steere also looks lost so who is our big man we can rely on? If it's not talent and it's just effort, then I expect to see the OOC versions of Roberts and Champ tonight. We will learn a lot about CMA tonight going either 1-4 or 2-3. The Mullin way would be to get blown out and go to 1-4 then like 1-7.[/quote]

The outcome of tonight's game will tell you a lot about CMA? Isn't his history of success as a coach throughout his career good enough for you? Since you see so many flaws with players starting or getting serious minutes, you should be lobbying CMA for Big East coach of the the year. There are players on this team that are still a work in progress. That we can all see. I have seen enough of CMA to know that this man is a big time coach.
 
Not sure if this is every game or not but I was at the Depaul game and I saw Mrs.Anderson in a red blazer. She was close to the bench standing cheering on the team loudly. I don't remember at what point in the game this was at but everyone else around her was sitting. I don't recall any previous coaches wives doing this. Just shows the level of commitment they are putting into us.
 
[quote="barbs20" post=372382]Not sure if this is every game or not but I was at the Depaul game and I saw Mrs.Anderson in a red blazer. She was close to the bench standing cheering on the team loudly. I don't remember at what point in the game this was at but everyone else around her was sitting. I don't recall any previous coaches wives doing this. Just shows the level of commitment they are putting into us.[/quote]

Heck--the wives rarely came to CA for home games. CMA said that in hiring him you also got his Mrs. as part of the team when he was hired. Have spoken with Mrs. Anderson and she is a wonderful person and very involved in the game--knows her stuff.
 
Cragg on Twitter Q&A on Process of hiring CMA;

How many characters are allowed in a reply? This will take several replies ... that’s how strong I felt about Coach A as soon as we started talking on the phone! So impressive and so perfect for what I felt we needed - a coach who has successfully built a program. A teacher ..

2 - ... family first ... and strong mentor to kids, staff, colleagues and peers. That was all clear on first day of talking. As far as the “noise”. I deleted twitter. Go figure and stayed focus on the task with our University admin. It was a wild nine days - that is for sure.

3 - We could not be any more pleased with our partnership in building a program that will sustain long term success. Also! to see how our student-athletes have bought in and committed - is heartwarming. It is a process - we have a lot of work to do. Together!
 
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Almost in spite of ourselves, we got the right guy. Of all the guys involved in that search - Cluess, Moser, Hurley, Odom, Jones, etc - I'll take Anderson over all of them every time.
 
[quote="BrooklynRed" post=372387][quote="barbs20" post=372382]Not sure if this is every game or not but I was at the Depaul game and I saw Mrs.Anderson in a red blazer. She was close to the bench standing cheering on the team loudly. I don't remember at what point in the game this was at but everyone else around her was sitting. I don't recall any previous coaches wives doing this. Just shows the level of commitment they are putting into us.[/quote]

Heck--the wives rarely came to CA for home games. CMA said that in hiring him you also got his Mrs. as part of the team when he was hired. Have spoken with Mrs. Anderson and she is a wonderful person and very involved in the game--knows her stuff.[/quote]

Most of the wives started out by coming to games, but as the fans turned on their husbands, they couldn't bear to take it (understandable, IMO).

Mrs. Carnesecca never did come to the games. I believe she once said that she preferred listening to the game at home, on the radio. She felt more free to move around when nervous.
 
[quote="RedmanMike" post=372742]Almost in spite of ourselves, we got the right guy. Of all the guys involved in that search - Cluess, Moser, Hurley, Odom, Jones, etc - I'll take Anderson over all of them every time.[/quote]

I believe that Anderson absolutely is the right guy and it's going to take a couple of years to get things rolling consistently.

As far as Cragg goes: I still cannot get over the fact that he offered Porter Freakin' Moser the job when Anderson was available. That alone makes me nervous about him. Oh, and jacking up the season ticket prices in year 1 of a major rebuild.

But CMA, I'm all aboard.
 
[quote="P Simmons" post=372797][quote="RedmanMike" post=372742]Almost in spite of ourselves, we got the right guy. Of all the guys involved in that search - Cluess, Moser, Hurley, Odom, Jones, etc - I'll take Anderson over all of them every time.[/quote]

I believe that Anderson absolutely is the right guy and it's going to take a couple of years to get things rolling consistently.

As far as Cragg goes: I still cannot get over the fact that he offered Porter Freakin' Moser the job when Anderson was available. That alone makes me nervous about him. Oh, and jacking up the season ticket prices in year 1 of a major rebuild.

But CMA, I'm all aboard.[/quote]

None of us knows cma salary and his staffs.2.5 -3mill a year.
In that case they had to.
 
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