Cluess

[quote="SeattleJohnny" post=339513][quote="mjmaherjr" post=339510][quote="fordham96" post=339507]Heard he talked to SJU today. I think it is moving in that direction.

Heard local prep coaches singing his praises.

Will get Hsu among others to join.[/quote] no clue if he gets hired but I just heard from someone that you are right on your info that he talked to the school today[/quote]

This can't be good for the Huley hopes![/quote]

Or while Hurley talks it over Cragg is being proactive talking to others. Taking temperatures. So we don't look like jilted lovers chasing our tails.
 
Alright, well he does have 4 straight NCAA appearances. Not exactly Hurley, Donovan, or Pitino, but I'd be interested in seeing what a winning coach could do. Get some good recruiters and this could work.
 
[quote="guinness77" post=339549][quote="Moose" post=339547][quote="ron " post=339542]This guy thinks Cleuss is the one to hire:

https://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/[/quote]

Yea I think even though he's an SJU grad he has a MAAC logo tattoo on his back[/quote]
Marco Baldi?[/quote]

I should have said tattoo on butt not back
I'm losing my edge as I get older. Not good
 
[quote="Moose" post=339550][quote="guinness77" post=339549][quote="Moose" post=339547][quote="ron " post=339542]This guy thinks Cleuss is the one to hire:

https://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/[/quote]

Yea I think even though he's an SJU grad he has a MAAC logo tattoo on his back[/quote]
Marco Baldi?[/quote]

I should have said tattoo on butt not back
I'm losing my edge as I get older. Not good[/quote]
It’s okay. I knew what you meant ;)
 
All this buzz lends more credence to the view that Hurley is staying at ASU.
I would root for any coach we hire to have great success with us, and if its Scheyer 'okay'.
But I'd find it surprising that Cragg couldn't have found a more experienced and solid HC whose skills and record he liked more than betting the ranch on an unproved candidate even with the shared Duke experience and the Duke pedigree.
I would hope that, if Scheyer is the guy, Cragg also brings in Borman and Hsu with him and maybe a former HC to be an AC (Pecora, Grasso), but that last notion is probably a stretch.
Well, here we go into the realm of who the heck knows.
 
[quote="Moose" post=339550][quote="guinness77" post=339549][quote="Moose" post=339547][quote="ron " post=339542]This guy thinks Cleuss is the one to hire:

https://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/[/quote]

Yea I think even though he's an SJU grad he has a MAAC logo tattoo on his back[/quote]
Marco Baldi?[/quote]

I should have said tattoo on butt not back
I'm losing my edge as I get older. Not good[/quote]

MAAC tramp stamp.
 
Well, if it's not Hurley and we're not close to any other 'Plan A' candidate, then I strongly favor Tim Cluess.
There's a risk he could transition to the high-major level from Iona, but he'll bust his gut to do it.
Hope he brings Grasso and they also add Borman and Hsu.
That'd be a promising and hard working staff.
Interesting the piece says 'it's close'.
Also very interesting that Bobby Hurley put the Sun Devils through a workout Wednesday morning.
I know the guy's dedicated, but that'd be odd if you're about to change ships.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=339561]All this buzz lends more credence to the view that Hurley is staying at ASU.
I would root for any coach we hire to have great success with us, and if its Scheyer 'okay'.
But I'd find it surprising that Cragg couldn't have found a more experienced and solid HC whose skills and record he liked more than betting the ranch on an unproved candidate even with the shared Duke experience and the Duke pedigree.
I would hope that, if Scheyer is the guy, Cragg also brings in Borman and Hsu with him and maybe a former HC to be an AC (Pecora, Grasso), but that last notion is probably a stretch.
Well, here we go into the realm of who the heck knows.[/quote]

Cluess has a college coaching record of 294-131. That’s only college. 14 league championships, several coach of the year awards. He’s got plenty of experience and a ton more than Scheyer. Like I said, he’s not the seemingly sexiest pick but I’d be fine with it. He’s been Overlooked because the level of the league, yet Willard got offered big money at V-Tech and his resume’ was nothing when he took over the Hall.

We made the mistake passing over McKillop several times and if we had hired him back then, he’d probably still be winning. If we can’t get Hurley to come here, and I think Hurley has a lot of upside, Cluess has a good track record and with good recruiters and some more focus on defense, could be very successful for a long time. I’d still prefer a younger coach like Hurley though who I think could land top notch talent here at SJU.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=339570][quote="Chicago Days" post=339561]All this buzz lends more credence to the view that Hurley is staying at ASU.
I would root for any coach we hire to have great success with us, and if its Scheyer 'okay'.
But I'd find it surprising that Cragg couldn't have found a more experienced and solid HC whose skills and record he liked more than betting the ranch on an unproved candidate even with the shared Duke experience and the Duke pedigree.
I would hope that, if Scheyer is the guy, Cragg also brings in Borman and Hsu with him and maybe a former HC to be an AC (Pecora, Grasso), but that last notion is probably a stretch.
Well, here we go into the realm of who the heck knows.[/quote]

Cluess has a college coaching record of 294-131. That’s only college. 14 league championships, several coach of the year awards. He’s got plenty of experience and a ton more than Scheyer. Like I said, he’s not the seemingly sexiest pick but I’d be fine with it. He’s been Overlooked because the level of the league, yet Willard got offered big money at V-Tech and his resume’ was nothing when he took over the Hall.

We made the mistake passing over McKillop several times and if we had hired him back then, he’d probably still be winning. If we can’t get Hurley to come here, and I think Hurley has a lot of upside, Cluess has a good track record and with good recruiters and some more focus on defense, could be very successful for a long time. I’d still prefer a younger coach like Hurley though who I think could land top notch talent here at SJU.[/quote]

Oh I agree MCNPA. If it's not Hurley and no other 'Plan A' guy is 'close', I prefer Cluess as well.
And according to that piece Paultz shared, that may be the case.
Gawd, so much speculation.
Funny.
 
[quote="P Simmons" post=339529]On one hand, we have a 60 year old who currently makes around $550k a year and has no high-major coaching experience.

On the other hand, we have a 66-year old who until recently was making $6 million a year, is widely considered one of the top 5 NCAA coaches of all time and due to circumstances that basically every elite school has experienced, is now available at a price we can afford.

If we choose Cluess, I will be depressed.[/quote]

Is a guy who cheats at cards a great card player if he can't cheat?
 
Cluess is so hard to figure out.

One one hand he’s 0-6 in the NCAA tournament, but on the other hand he’s played those games as a 16th seed which is brutal.

You may think if he has some Big East players a la a Heron, a Williams, a Figueroa or a Steere he could do some damage with that. But he may get exposed going against the Villanova’s or Marquette’s of the world.


Tough to figure out
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=339572][quote="MCNPA" post=339570][quote="Chicago Days" post=339561]All this buzz lends more credence to the view that Hurley is staying at ASU.
I would root for any coach we hire to have great success with us, and if its Scheyer 'okay'.
But I'd find it surprising that Cragg couldn't have found a more experienced and solid HC whose skills and record he liked more than betting the ranch on an unproved candidate even with the shared Duke experience and the Duke pedigree.
I would hope that, if Scheyer is the guy, Cragg also brings in Borman and Hsu with him and maybe a former HC to be an AC (Pecora, Grasso), but that last notion is probably a stretch.
Well, here we go into the realm of who the heck knows.[/quote]

Cluess has a college coaching record of 294-131. That’s only college. 14 league championships, several coach of the year awards. He’s got plenty of experience and a ton more than Scheyer. Like I said, he’s not the seemingly sexiest pick but I’d be fine with it. He’s been Overlooked because the level of the league, yet Willard got offered big money at V-Tech and his resume’ was nothing when he took over the Hall.

We made the mistake passing over McKillop several times and if we had hired him back then, he’d probably still be winning. If we can’t get Hurley to come here, and I think Hurley has a lot of upside, Cluess has a good track record and with good recruiters and some more focus on defense, could be very successful for a long time. I’d still prefer a younger coach like Hurley though who I think could land top notch talent here at SJU.[/quote]

Oh I agree MCNPA. If it's not Hurley and no other 'Plan A' guy is 'close', I prefer Cluess as well.
And according to that piece Paultz shared, that may be the case.
Gawd, so much speculation.
Funny.[/quote]

It is funny. I have my concerns about Cluess too, but most are probably unfounded to be honest. We’ve made plenty of “sexy” hires in the past who didn’t have the coaching chops. Cluess isn’t going to be unprepared. Not in the least. This coaching stuff hasn’t been in his blood at every level. Sometimes the boring pick works out better. What we’ve been doing isn’t working. Cooley isn’t the exciting pick at Providence but he’s tough every year. Beilein wasn’t an exciting pick
Before he took the Michigan job. Howland was a nobody at Northern Arizona. The list goes on. Truth be told I’m just happy right now looking forward to a change from Mullin who really wasn’t prepared to be a coach.
 
[quote="Sju grad 13" post=339574]Cluess is so hard to figure out.

One one hand he’s 0-6 in the NCAA tournament, but on the other hand he’s played those games as a 16th seed which is brutal.

You may think if he has some Big East players a la a Heron, a Williams, a Figueroa or a Steere he could do some damage with that. But he may get exposed going against the Villanova’s or Marquette’s of the world.


Tough to figure out[/quote]

I think Cluess will be prepared to succeed at the BEC level. A solid staff could facilitate any 'transition' hiccups. The guy has great creds 'developing players'...does that stop with 3* & 4* players--the kind of guys we recruit?
I think Clues would prove out.
Probably the job he's wanted his entire career.
He would not let that slip from his grasp.
 
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