Chemistry a Problem / N.Y. Post

[lawmanfan]

I don't post often, but I do follow this board & team as they have been a part of my life for >25 years. A couple of take-aways as I was not surprised we lost to Wisconsin, which was much more disciplined & better coached even though we seemed to be more talented.

1. I think this team will go as far as Jordan will take them. I know its tough to put that on a frosh PG, but from what I saw he can/will be special and its the only real difference maker I saw between last year & this. Harrison looked about the same, Sampson showed some improvement but still settles for the J, and Sanchez with 1 year may have flashes but I didn't see an NBA caliber player. I hope they prove me wrong. The majority of 2011 was because of Hardy, who had a lights out year but also thus was able to demand attention leaving open looks for the rest of the team. I remember Kennedy benefitting the most from this on the wing.

2. Poor shooting a direct reflection of lack of offensive sets. A lot of discussion on here about our poor shooting, but how many open 3's do we actually generate? Most all of Harrison's are rushed / contested. Hooper's shot was on the move with a defender close. Compare to Wisconsin (and many other teams we played last year) whose shooters had their feet set ready to shoot when they caught the ball. I'm sure Harrison / Hooper can convert a higher percentage if the offense can get them similar looks, but it will require dribble penetration from Jordan, good ball movement on wings, and a dominant big man who demands double teams against man-to-man or breaks the zone in the middle & is smart / capable enough to kick it out to the open guy. Can Jordan or Harrison succeed a-la Hardy in 2011 in drawing multiple defenders & then making the right pass - this will be key as unfortunately I haven't seen disciplined ball movement, nor a big man who fits the bill as Sampson is a face-up player who isn't a great passer and it doesn't look like Sanchez is much different in that he seems more comfortable starting from the outside, although perhaps he can be the guy in the middle against the zone as he can pass. Gift is the closest we have to a back-to-the basket player, and he doesn't command the double team.

3. Foul shooting even more critical this year - with the new rules we'll be in the bonus / double bonus a much higher % of the game. This means our foul shooting will play a larger role in our success. This scares me, although the 1st game has shown some improvement here (13/16 in 2nd half)

4. Defense - consistently allowing open looks. With this teams athleticism / quickness and depth I'm not sure why we don't play straight up man-to-man, albeit it needs to be more disciplined on the ball with the new rules. Unless the other team has 1-2 dominant big men (like Josh Smith at G-Town) I'm not really a fan of the zone as time and time we seem to be over-aggressive leaving open looks against almost any team that has a coach with good offensive sets & moves the ball.

Sorry for the long post not meant to be anything more than sharing my perspectives. Unfortunately I think the coaching is marginal, as our success in 2011 was largely due to Hardy's ability to shoot & break down defenses. I haven't seen anything different in the last 3 years which is why I believe that our success will ultimately come down to the talent of whoever has the ball most often, which I personally hope is Jordan from what I've seen on the floor.

Thanks, MIT Storm. I'm sorry that one of the few thoughtful posts on this thread sort of got lost. I pretty much agree with you on all points.

It seems to me that the Wisconsin game was a product of our coaching philosophy, and that will be true of the rest of the season as well. That philosophy is to (1) recruit athletic players who should thrive in the open court (but who do not necessarily have a great understanding of the game); (2) hope for open-court play that will allow them to succeed; (3) run a limited number of halfcourt sets generally designed to find a one-on-one matchup somewhere on the floor; and (4) play primarily zone defense.

I am not personally a fan of run-and-gun basketball. Having said that, if that's your philosophy and your personnel then that's fine. But then you have to press, trap and play man defense to take advantage of your depth and your skill set. Playing the zone totally contradicts the offensive philosophy. It plays into the hands of our opponents, all of whom know that we are much less dangerous in the halfcourt.

To me, the limited offense and the zone defense are both just coaching shortcuts that take the burden off of teaching the game. As you noted, we don't even play the zone well, since every opponent seems to somehow rotate the ball around for open 3s that we somehow never seem to get there to defend.

And yet, somehow over the course of the season the team will gel. It will find some big wins on talent and motivation, and lose some games it shouldn't to teams that may not have as much talent but are better coached.

Just like the UCLA years, the team will go as far as the talent can take it.

 

[simplyred]

I've never coached basketball but where is the zone a shortcut to avoid teaching basketball. Imo, Man is easier to teach than a zone. I just believe that teams should switch up from man to a variety of zones and occasionally pressing, in order to keep the opponent off balance and catch them by surprise with the full court press

 

[salty dog]

Boheim doesn't think that the zone is a shortcut. He thinks it's harder to teach a proper zone.

 

[MJDinkins]

I've never coached basketball but where is the zone a shortcut to avoid teaching basketball. Imo, Man is easier to teach than a zone. I just believe that teams should switch up from man to a variety of zones and occasionally pressing, in order to keep the opponent off balance and catch them by surprise with the full court press

Do you wanna know why that particular quote sounded confusing to you?

Because it's just more baseless bunk that's being passed off as truth or facts on here the past few days.

 

[Marillac]

I'm so sick of seeing people say we should've pressed full-court. Wisconsin was passing to open shooters when we were in a half court D, if we were running around with our heads off they would've had a passing and shooting clinic and would've won by 30.

Our answer on defense is pretty obvious, we need to help MUCH less. Whether they are in man or zone, the guys need to just stick to their responsibilities. Don't collapse or help on another player, just stay with your man or in your area.

I understand why you would think this way, but you have to think big picture. Sure, pressing gives up a decent amount of open threes (and layups), but if you press and push all game, you get so many more 4-3's, 3-2's, etc. where our guys can just use their muscle memory. It does them no good to slow it down and take on Wisconsin in the half court. We literally surrender all of our advantages in doing so. What pressing also does, even if it does give up several open looks, is it forces the tempo of the game and takes the opposing team out of what they want to do--if done correctly. Let them fall in love with quick threes and easy layups...that is not their game and that well dries up more often than not.

 

[beast of the east]

The love affair with Hooper comes from a nearly complete absence of shooters at SJU since the 3 point shot was added to the rulebook. Anyone even rumored to be a shooter is looked at as the answer. It's like seeing a mirage in the desert. Shooting open 3's in an empty gym means next to nothing. It doesn't help that the offense isn't geared to take advantage of shooters.
Wisconsin looks better coached because Ryan recruits players to fit his system. Guys who go there want to play in that system, as it fits their game well. Give him our players, and don't expect the same results.
Lavin is recruiting, so far, the athletic but raw talent with NBA dreams. The guys used to jumping over players instead of learning to box out. Players that don't have to shoot well because their scoring options are mainly the dunk. When he gets one that also has certain skill sets like Harkless, they are gone after one season. Jordan fits that description. I agree with the poster that says Jordan is the key. He can penetrate and find others, or finish at the rim. He looks like he has a mid range jumper also. Without him doing that, every coach will want to play us in the half court game. Our weakness.

I am not going to knock either Marco or Max simply because of where they came from. It's not unnatural to do this, in fact a lot of times guys like them who don't fly through the air with the greatest of ease, even get dissed by their own teammates.

HOWEVER, if you read the profiles of each player on Redmensports.com, a lot of players list Marco or Max as either their favorite teammate, or the guy who will surprise everyone the most this season.

The thing I noticed the most, is that Wisconsin guys put the ball on the floor and penetrate specifically to make the defense collapse before kicking it to a guy squared up. Our guys, much more talented, seem to drive with the purpose of making a layup, short shot, or drawing a foul, and pass as a third or fourth option. Hopefully they will mature, and trust their teammates on the perimeter.

Lots of NBA guys came from schools that weren't high D1, so I'm not about to knock Max or Marco because of that. My guess is that if this team makes the tourney, one or both will have their moments.

 

[MJDinkins]

The thing I noticed the most, is that Wisconsin guys put the ball on the floor and penetrate specifically to make the defense collapse before kicking it to a guy squared up. Our guys, much more talented, seem to drive with the purpose of making a layup, short shot, or drawing a foul, and pass as a third or forth option.

Noticed this, as well. I think the new guys on the team (Sanchez and Jordan) are more prone to use a drive to dish it off, rather than attempting a shot.

 

[lawmanfan]

Boheim doesn't think that the zone is a shortcut. He thinks it's harder to teach a proper zone.

A good zone is not a shortcut. However, our zone is not a good zone.

 

[SJUISBACK]

The love affair with Hooper comes from a nearly complete absence of shooters at SJU since the 3 point shot was added to the rulebook. Anyone even rumored to be a shooter is looked at as the answer. It's like seeing a mirage in the desert. Shooting open 3's in an empty gym means next to nothing. It doesn't help that the offense isn't geared to take advantage of shooters.
Wisconsin looks better coached because Ryan recruits players to fit his system. Guys who go there want to play in that system, as it fits their game well. Give him our players, and don't expect the same results.
Lavin is recruiting, so far, the athletic but raw talent with NBA dreams. The guys used to jumping over players instead of learning to box out. Players that don't have to shoot well because their scoring options are mainly the dunk. When he gets one that also has certain skill sets like Harkless, they are gone after one season. Jordan fits that description. I agree with the poster that says Jordan is the key. He can penetrate and find others, or finish at the rim. He looks like he has a mid range jumper also. Without him doing that, every coach will want to play us in the half court game. Our weakness.

I am not going to knock either Marco or Max simply because of where they came from. It's not unnatural to do this, in fact a lot of times guys like them who don't fly through the air with the greatest of ease, even get dissed by their own teammates.

HOWEVER, if you read the profiles of each player on Redmensports.com, a lot of players list Marco or Max as either their favorite teammate, or the guy who will surprise everyone the most this season.

The thing I noticed the most, is that Wisconsin guys put the ball on the floor and penetrate specifically to make the defense collapse before kicking it to a guy squared up. Our guys, much more talented, seem to drive with the purpose of making a layup, short shot, or drawing a foul, and pass as a third or forth option. Hopefully they will mature, and trust their teammates on the perimeter.

Oh yeah Marco or Max is going to surprise huh. All I see is the hype, then what happened vs. Wkisconsin? It`s time to start producing and stop talking, talking is cheap when ya can`t back it up. After Wisconsin I won`t fall for the hype bs anymore.
Time to put up or shutup, we`ll learn more during the tourny at the Barclays. Lets see what ya got.

 

[beast of the east]

The love affair with Hooper comes from a nearly complete absence of shooters at SJU since the 3 point shot was added to the rulebook. Anyone even rumored to be a shooter is looked at as the answer. It's like seeing a mirage in the desert. Shooting open 3's in an empty gym means next to nothing. It doesn't help that the offense isn't geared to take advantage of shooters.
Wisconsin looks better coached because Ryan recruits players to fit his system. Guys who go there want to play in that system, as it fits their game well. Give him our players, and don't expect the same results.
Lavin is recruiting, so far, the athletic but raw talent with NBA dreams. The guys used to jumping over players instead of learning to box out. Players that don't have to shoot well because their scoring options are mainly the dunk. When he gets one that also has certain skill sets like Harkless, they are gone after one season. Jordan fits that description. I agree with the poster that says Jordan is the key. He can penetrate and find others, or finish at the rim. He looks like he has a mid range jumper also. Without him doing that, every coach will want to play us in the half court game. Our weakness.

I am not going to knock either Marco or Max simply because of where they came from. It's not unnatural to do this, in fact a lot of times guys like them who don't fly through the air with the greatest of ease, even get dissed by their own teammates.

HOWEVER, if you read the profiles of each player on Redmensports.com, a lot of players list Marco or Max as either their favorite teammate, or the guy who will surprise everyone the most this season.

The thing I noticed the most, is that Wisconsin guys put the ball on the floor and penetrate specifically to make the defense collapse before kicking it to a guy squared up. Our guys, much more talented, seem to drive with the purpose of making a layup, short shot, or drawing a foul, and pass as a third or forth option. Hopefully they will mature, and trust their teammates on the perimeter.

Oh yeah Marco or Max is going to surprise huh. All I see is the hype, then what happened vs. Wkisconsin? It`s time to start producing and stop talking, talking is cheap when ya can`t back it up. After Wisconsin I won`t fall for the hype bs anymore.
Time to put up or shutup, we`ll learn more during the tourny at the Barclays. Lets see what ya got.

Please don't judge a guy (Hooper) on his first D1 game at St. John's. Would you want your boss to judge you on your first day of work? All I know is that their teammates seem to think of lot of them, so I'd have to go by the athletes that have a lot more talent than you or I, and who are likely smarter than you (not I though).

 

[Section3]

I'm so sick of seeing people say we should've pressed full-court. Wisconsin was passing to open shooters when we were in a half court D, if we were running around with our heads off they would've had a passing and shooting clinic and would've won by 30.

Our answer on defense is pretty obvious, we need to help MUCH less. Whether they are in man or zone, the guys need to just stick to their responsibilities. Don't collapse or help on another player, just stay with your man or in your area.

I understand why you would think this way, but you have to think big picture. Sure, pressing gives up a decent amount of open threes (and layups), but if you press and push all game, you get so many more 4-3's, 3-2's, etc. where our guys can just use their muscle memory. It does them no good to slow it down and take on Wisconsin in the half court. We literally surrender all of our advantages in doing so. What pressing also does, even if it does give up several open looks, is it forces the tempo of the game and takes the opposing team out of what they want to do--if done correctly. Let them fall in love with quick threes and easy layups...that is not their game and that well dries up more often than not.

Don't know if full court press is the answer but absolutely agree that we need to do something to ramp up the intensity and sense of urgency on defense...we have a propensity to jog back, and once back, appear almost flat footed and going through the motions...so pressing should be a component of the gameplan especially with Obekpa in the game and on the backline

 

[SJUISBACK]

[/quote] Please don't judge a guy (Hooper) on his first D1 game at St. John's. Would you want your boss to judge you on your first day of work? All I know is that their teammates seem to think of lot of them, so I'd have to go by the athletes that have a lot more talent than you or I, and who are likely smarter than you (not I though). [/quote]

Ok, how about Lavin comparing Marco to Kerr/ Paxson well how did that go. Lavin is the coach not me so he must know basketball talent right, but he was wrong on him. That`s the reason I don`t care what the players say, I want to see it with my own eyes before getting excited, or just like with Marco, I`ll be like I thought he was so great so what happened to him?
Hey I eally hope he`s as good as they say because then he`ll help the team that I want win, but I`m not getting excited just by word of mouth anymore since I`m sick of the disappointment when they always go down.

I want to believe but they need to show me first.

 

[Ray Morgan]

Please don't judge a guy (Hooper) on his first D1 game at St. John's. Would you want your boss to judge you on your first day of work? All I know is that their teammates seem to think of lot of them, so I'd have to go by the athletes that have a lot more talent than you or I, and who are likely smarter than you (not I though). [/quote]

Ok, how about Lavin comparing Marco to Kerr/ Paxson well how did that go. Lavin is the coach not me so he must know basketball talent right, but he was wrong on him. That`s the reason I don`t care what the players say, I want to see it with my own eyes before getting excited, or just like with Marco, I`ll be like I thought he was so great so what happened to him?
Hey I eally hope he`s as good as they say because then he`ll help the team that I want win, but I`m not getting excited just by word of mouth anymore since I`m sick of the disappointment when they always go down.

I want to believe but they need to show me first.[/quote]

When it comes to their own players, never trust what a coach says. All coaches exaggerate the talent level of their players. We can judge with our own eyes. Marco was given chances. He couldn't hit 3's at a high enough % to merit more playing time. Therefore, Hooper will be given a chance. I just don't see this team finding a way to give Hooper the maximum chance to succeed. He needs wide open looks, squared to the basket. For a team that finds defenses more intent on packing it in, we don't seem inclined to create open looks from 3. Not enough guys that can create for others. Not enough shooters to avoid attention on our designated shooter from 3.

 

[westchesterjoe]

Heslip of Baylor had a big game last night leading the Bears over S. Carolina. Heslip destroyed our D last year. This kind of 3 point shooter, more than just one dimensional, is the kind of player Lavin should be looking to recruit, in addition to all the Athletes who aren't exceptional shooters. Less the protesters overwhelm, DLO is a scorer not, a drop dead shooter and, he's good at that but, some nights he's going to shoot 3 for 13 and no 3's. That's his history.

It seems like every team has a kid who can shoot but, also get significant minutes , rather than a quick hook.. If Hooper is the guy, let him play .. Of course, that requires the other 4 guys to play defense and that is still missing in these players.

The bothersome thing is that Lavin's system on Defense isn't working, after 4 years. And, it's more than a 1 game thing.

 

[fun]

Heslip of Baylor had a big game last night leading the Bears over S. Carolina. Heslip destroyed our D last year. This kind of 3 point shooter, more than just one dimensional, is the kind of player Lavin should be looking to recruit, in addition to all the Athletes who aren't exceptional shooters. Less the protesters overwhelm, DLO is a scorer not, a drop dead shooter and, he's good at that but, some nights he's going to shoot 3 for 13 and no 3's. That's his history.

Harrison of Saint John's had 26 last year leading SJ over South Carolina, who were about the worst team we played all season. Haslip of Baylor averages 8 points a game -- and to prove that he's not just one dimensional -- one assist and one rebound as well. Clearly the missing piece of the puzzle and just the sort of player we should be recruiting: a slow footed 6'2" guard who averages 2 made threes a game. That throbbing you don't feel is your finger not on the pulse of the problem.

 

[westchesterjoe]

Heslip of Baylor had a big game last night leading the Bears over S. Carolina. Heslip destroyed our D last year. This kind of 3 point shooter, more than just one dimensional, is the kind of player Lavin should be looking to recruit, in addition to all the Athletes who aren't exceptional shooters. Less the protesters overwhelm, DLO is a scorer not, a drop dead shooter and, he's good at that but, some nights he's going to shoot 3 for 13 and no 3's. That's his history.

Harrison of Saint John's had 26 last year leading SJ over South Carolina, who were about the worst team we played all season. Haslip of Baylor averages 8 points a game -- and to prove that he's not just one dimensional -- one assist and one rebound as well. Clearly the missing piece of the puzzle and just the sort of player we should be recruiting: a slow footed 6'2" guard who averages 2 made threes a game. That throbbing you don't feel is your finger not on the pulse of the problem.

Yes, it's the kids like Heslip, the kid on San Francisco, Dukan, Gessler on Wisconsin, Ryan A on Villanova, all slow footed guards who blow by our athletes, shoot their pants off and emerge winning the games...Versus the High Jumpers and acrobats that can't throw the ball in the ocean or who wave goodbye to their man as they go bye for a lay up.
Yeah, Lavin wouldn't recruit these kids ..

They probably wouldn't play for him anyway.

 

[MJDinkins]

Heslip of Baylor had a big game last night leading the Bears over S. Carolina. Heslip destroyed our D last year. This kind of 3 point shooter, more than just one dimensional, is the kind of player Lavin should be looking to recruit, in addition to all the Athletes who aren't exceptional shooters. Less the protesters overwhelm, DLO is a scorer not, a drop dead shooter and, he's good at that but, some nights he's going to shoot 3 for 13 and no 3's. That's his history.

Harrison of Saint John's had 26 last year leading SJ over South Carolina, who were about the worst team we played all season. Haslip of Baylor averages 8 points a game -- and to prove that he's not just one dimensional -- one assist and one rebound as well. Clearly the missing piece of the puzzle and just the sort of player we should be recruiting: a slow footed 6'2" guard who averages 2 made threes a game. That throbbing you don't feel is your finger not on the pulse of the problem.

Yes, it's the kids like Heslip, the kid on San Francisco, Dukan, Gessler on Wisconsin, Ryan A on Villanova, all slow footed guards who blow by our athletes, shoot their pants off and emerge winning the games...Versus the High Jumpers and acrobats that can't throw the ball in the ocean or who wave goodbye to their man as they go bye for a lay up.
Yeah, Lavin wouldn't recruit these kids ..

They probably wouldn't play for him anyway.

Are you on some mission to be as big of a nuisance, as you can be? It seems that way.

To show your ignorance.... Lavin did reach out to Arcidiacono. But he settled on the local school, and the same school where his parents attended.

 

[westchesterjoe]

Heslip of Baylor had a big game last night leading the Bears over S. Carolina. Heslip destroyed our D last year. This kind of 3 point shooter, more than just one dimensional, is the kind of player Lavin should be looking to recruit, in addition to all the Athletes who aren't exceptional shooters. Less the protesters overwhelm, DLO is a scorer not, a drop dead shooter and, he's good at that but, some nights he's going to shoot 3 for 13 and no 3's. That's his history.

Harrison of Saint John's had 26 last year leading SJ over South Carolina, who were about the worst team we played all season. Haslip of Baylor averages 8 points a game -- and to prove that he's not just one dimensional -- one assist and one rebound as well. Clearly the missing piece of the puzzle and just the sort of player we should be recruiting: a slow footed 6'2" guard who averages 2 made threes a game. That throbbing you don't feel is your finger not on the pulse of the problem.

You probably forgot to include these Heslip stats:

CAREER 42.1 % 3 Point shooting, best in BAYLOR HISTORY

# 7 on Baylor career 3 pt fg made(183)

Only player in Baylor history with 3 games of 8+ 3 point goals made

9 treys in NCAA tourney game against Colorado

Scored 29 points against St John's(8 of 12 3 pt goals against St John's, with 5 rebound, 3 steals on 11/18/2012.

Holds Baylor NIT record of 26 points(8 -11 3 pt goals ) in 22 minutes vs Long Beach State,3/.20/13

2 time Academic ALL -BIG 12 team.

Transferred to Baylor from Boston College.


Yeah, he's exactly the kind of player no team would want..

 

[westchesterjoe]

Heslip of Baylor had a big game last night leading the Bears over S. Carolina. Heslip destroyed our D last year. This kind of 3 point shooter, more than just one dimensional, is the kind of player Lavin should be looking to recruit, in addition to all the Athletes who aren't exceptional shooters. Less the protesters overwhelm, DLO is a scorer not, a drop dead shooter and, he's good at that but, some nights he's going to shoot 3 for 13 and no 3's. That's his history.

Harrison of Saint John's had 26 last year leading SJ over South Carolina, who were about the worst team we played all season. Haslip of Baylor averages 8 points a game -- and to prove that he's not just one dimensional -- one assist and one rebound as well. Clearly the missing piece of the puzzle and just the sort of player we should be recruiting: a slow footed 6'2" guard who averages 2 made threes a game. That throbbing you don't feel is your finger not on the pulse of the problem.

Yes, it's the kids like Heslip, the kid on San Francisco, Dukan, Gessler on Wisconsin, Ryan A on Villanova, all slow footed guards who blow by our athletes, shoot their pants off and emerge winning the games...Versus the High Jumpers and acrobats that can't throw the ball in the ocean or who wave goodbye to their man as they go bye for a lay up.
Yeah, Lavin wouldn't recruit these kids ..

They probably wouldn't play for him anyway.

Are you on some mission to be as big of a nuisance, as you can be? It seems that way.

To show your ignorance.... Lavin did reach out to Arcidiacono. But he settled on the local school, and the same school where his parents attended.

Can U read? I said kids like Arcidiacono, HESLIP IN THE FIRST SENTENCE. Re-Read it slower next time before you shoot your mouth.. Comprehension is important in reading.

 

[MJDinkins]

Heslip of Baylor had a big game last night leading the Bears over S. Carolina. Heslip destroyed our D last year. This kind of 3 point shooter, more than just one dimensional, is the kind of player Lavin should be looking to recruit, in addition to all the Athletes who aren't exceptional shooters. Less the protesters overwhelm, DLO is a scorer not, a drop dead shooter and, he's good at that but, some nights he's going to shoot 3 for 13 and no 3's. That's his history.

Harrison of Saint John's had 26 last year leading SJ over South Carolina, who were about the worst team we played all season. Haslip of Baylor averages 8 points a game -- and to prove that he's not just one dimensional -- one assist and one rebound as well. Clearly the missing piece of the puzzle and just the sort of player we should be recruiting: a slow footed 6'2" guard who averages 2 made threes a game. That throbbing you don't feel is your finger not on the pulse of the problem.

Yes, it's the kids like Heslip, the kid on San Francisco, Dukan, Gessler on Wisconsin, Ryan A on Villanova, all slow footed guards who blow by our athletes, shoot their pants off and emerge winning the games...Versus the High Jumpers and acrobats that can't throw the ball in the ocean or who wave goodbye to their man as they go bye for a lay up.
Yeah, Lavin wouldn't recruit these kids ..

They probably wouldn't play for him anyway.

Are you on some mission to be as big of a nuisance, as you can be? It seems that way.

To show your ignorance.... Lavin did reach out to Arcidiacono. But he settled on the local school, and the same school where his parents attended.

Can U read? I said kids like Arcidiacono, HESLIP IN THE FIRST SENTENCE. Re-Read it slower next time before you shoot your mouth.. Comprehension is important in reading.

I can read and comprehend well. You mentioned "kids like Arcidiacono," and I said, Lavin did target him. So, now you said, you mentioned kids like him, and I give an actual scenario where Lavin did target a kid like Arcidiacono.

So, what are you talking about moron?