Bursting the Bubble: Why Sports Aren't Coming Back Soon
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Was told this afternoon that Adidas is still looking at ways of salvaging the summer AAU season.
Mullins Revenge
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[quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Correct. Its time to get on with our lives and get back to normal. Sports will be a huge part of that.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Correct. Its time to get on with our lives and get back to normal. Sports will be a huge part of that.
L J S A
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[quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
How many people here wear a mask and socially distance every single time they go out? Until that happens, it's really not going to go away to the point where ideas like shutting down sports for two years can go away.
Instead, we have governors refusing to order people to shelter in place, and then their state shockingly become a new hot spot. And we also have a president who's too vain to wear a mask, even though he's fat and ugly to begin with.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
How many people here wear a mask and socially distance every single time they go out? Until that happens, it's really not going to go away to the point where ideas like shutting down sports for two years can go away.
Instead, we have governors refusing to order people to shelter in place, and then their state shockingly become a new hot spot. And we also have a president who's too vain to wear a mask, even though he's fat and ugly to begin with.
[quote="Section9" post=385284][quote="Paul Massell" post=385275]Best part of this thread is Otis posting the Taiwan baseball scores.[/quote]
I'm rootin' for the Rakuten Monkeys, 2nd place with a bullet![/quote]
I thought he was saying we could buy monkeys from Rakuten, but alas no such luck. I'll never get that hour back.
I'm rootin' for the Rakuten Monkeys, 2nd place with a bullet![/quote]
I thought he was saying we could buy monkeys from Rakuten, but alas no such luck. I'll never get that hour back.
Spocky Ramone
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[quote="austour" post=385285][quote="Section9" post=385284][quote="Paul Massell" post=385275]Best part of this thread is Otis posting the Taiwan baseball scores.[/quote]
I'm rootin' for the Rakuten Monkeys, 2nd place with a bullet![/quote]
I thought he was saying we could buy monkeys from Rakuten, but alas no such luck. I'll never get that hour back.[/quote]
You can buy monkeys at Rakuten, but you have to go to the wet market.
And why is it “monkeys” and not “monkies”? I know “Monkees” is acceptable on pleasant valley Sundays...
I'm rootin' for the Rakuten Monkeys, 2nd place with a bullet![/quote]
I thought he was saying we could buy monkeys from Rakuten, but alas no such luck. I'll never get that hour back.[/quote]
You can buy monkeys at Rakuten, but you have to go to the wet market.
And why is it “monkeys” and not “monkies”? I know “Monkees” is acceptable on pleasant valley Sundays...
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Only one game reported for April 16, 2020 being the Rakuten Monkeys blasted the Uni Lions by a score or 15 to 3. With the win the Monkeys moved into a tie for first place with the Fubon Guardians who had the day off.
Rakuten Monkeys 15
Uni lions 3
Current Standings
1sr Fubon Guardians
1st Rakuten Monkeys
3rd Uni Lions
4th Chinatrust Brothers
Rakuten Monkeys 15
Uni lions 3
Current Standings
1sr Fubon Guardians
1st Rakuten Monkeys
3rd Uni Lions
4th Chinatrust Brothers
[quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.
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[quote="L J S A" post=385272][quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
How many people here wear a mask and socially distance every single time they go out? Until that happens, it's really not going to go away to the point where ideas like shutting down sports for two years can go away.
Instead, we have governors refusing to order people to shelter in place, and then their state shockingly become a new hot spot. And we also have a president who's too vain to wear a mask, even though he's fat and ugly to begin with.[/quote]
If it’s South Dakota you’re speaking of, the hotspot in the state is a Chinese owned Pork processing plant which had some travelers straight from the source before flights were shut down. New Orleans had Mardi Gras and NYC had Lunar New Year. In both of those situations, local politicians said it wasn’t a big deal. In NYC’s case that went on for about a month. Quite a difference from SD’s situation.
Really no other random hot spots other than what you would expect if coming from NYC (Philly, DC, Chicago).
Sports will come back once the OK for mass gatherings comes which I think will be early this summer for most areas of the country. The economy can’t last much longer like this.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
How many people here wear a mask and socially distance every single time they go out? Until that happens, it's really not going to go away to the point where ideas like shutting down sports for two years can go away.
Instead, we have governors refusing to order people to shelter in place, and then their state shockingly become a new hot spot. And we also have a president who's too vain to wear a mask, even though he's fat and ugly to begin with.[/quote]
If it’s South Dakota you’re speaking of, the hotspot in the state is a Chinese owned Pork processing plant which had some travelers straight from the source before flights were shut down. New Orleans had Mardi Gras and NYC had Lunar New Year. In both of those situations, local politicians said it wasn’t a big deal. In NYC’s case that went on for about a month. Quite a difference from SD’s situation.
Really no other random hot spots other than what you would expect if coming from NYC (Philly, DC, Chicago).
Sports will come back once the OK for mass gatherings comes which I think will be early this summer for most areas of the country. The economy can’t last much longer like this.
Class of 72
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[quote="Paul Massell" post=385275]Best part of this thread is Otis posting the Taiwan baseball scores.[/quote]
That is fake news. According the the World Health Organization Taiwan doesn't exist.
That is fake news. According the the World Health Organization Taiwan doesn't exist.
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=385298][quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.
Ray Morgan
Well-known member
[quote="fuchsia" post=385319][quote="JohnnyFan" post=385298][quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.[/quote]
I hate vaccines, especially after taking the flu vaccine decades ago and ending up in bed for 1 month. Even with that experience, I will avoid crowds until I take a vaccine that is almost certain to protect me. Every day, the news gets worse. People with healthy kidneys ending up on dialysis. Young people with damaged lungs, livers and kidneys. Too early to say if it's permanent. If I can watch a sitcom with their canned laughter, I can watch any sport with simulated crowd noise.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.[/quote]
I hate vaccines, especially after taking the flu vaccine decades ago and ending up in bed for 1 month. Even with that experience, I will avoid crowds until I take a vaccine that is almost certain to protect me. Every day, the news gets worse. People with healthy kidneys ending up on dialysis. Young people with damaged lungs, livers and kidneys. Too early to say if it's permanent. If I can watch a sitcom with their canned laughter, I can watch any sport with simulated crowd noise.
Spocky Ramone
Well-known member
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=385324][quote="fuchsia" post=385319][quote="JohnnyFan" post=385298][quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.[/quote]
I hate vaccines, especially after taking the flu vaccine decades ago and ending up in bed for 1 month. Even with that experience, I will avoid crowds until I take a vaccine that is almost certain to protect me. Every day, the news gets worse. People with healthy kidneys ending up on dialysis. Young people with damaged lungs, livers and kidneys. Too early to say if it's permanent. If I can watch a sitcom with their canned laughter, I can watch any sport with simulated crowd noise.[/quote]
The New Jersey Nets, ahead of their time...
https://apnews.com/ad7dd0436867c4fb88e09a5bcb064fcd
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.[/quote]
I hate vaccines, especially after taking the flu vaccine decades ago and ending up in bed for 1 month. Even with that experience, I will avoid crowds until I take a vaccine that is almost certain to protect me. Every day, the news gets worse. People with healthy kidneys ending up on dialysis. Young people with damaged lungs, livers and kidneys. Too early to say if it's permanent. If I can watch a sitcom with their canned laughter, I can watch any sport with simulated crowd noise.[/quote]
The New Jersey Nets, ahead of their time...
https://apnews.com/ad7dd0436867c4fb88e09a5bcb064fcd
[quote="fuchsia" post=385319][quote="JohnnyFan" post=385298][quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.[/quote]
Curative therapies currently being used…
-Hydroxychloroquine/Chloroquine + Azithromycin + Zinc - Already proven safe by the FDA (and decades of use in each case) and more than enough efficacy data to warrant being used larger scale. The level of evidence for off label use is consistent with other drugs and therapies’ off label uses.
Obviously no one will do randomized blind clinical trials during a pandemic so you won’t have full FDA approval so wha
-other antivirals (Kaletra, Remdesivir) - safety seems promising so far in the non FDA approved medications as does efficacy in all of them.
Like I said, testing for active disease and antibodies need to improve but the tests we have now are accurate so it is more a matter of scaling up (especially the serological testing for antibodies) rather than development.
Also, we don't know (or so you claim)
* post-recovery immunity duration - We haven’t seen any reinfection or found the ability to reinfect so until that changes this one is checked off. This is pretty well recognized but I’m sure it will be tested further.
* true infection rate - according to a recently released study from Stanford, it found the likely prevalence of antibodies in a defined area (Santa Clara Co) to be 50-80 fold the official numbers. [URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1[/URL]
* true mortality rate - see above but a 50 fold decrease in mortality rate (claimed 2%) means a 0.04% mortality in the population. This information still doesn’t include widespread use of prescription drug therapies.
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu - multiple strains (8 I believe have been found already) and no indication any have morphed to be more virulent or deadly. Quite the opposite actually, they seem to have morphed to be less deadly if anything.
As for your last statement, does that mean that we can also send you the bill for our economy? And the small businesses that close?
Looking at this from a single perspective is the luxury someone like Fauci has but not a luxury politicians and most businesses have.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.[/quote]
Curative therapies currently being used…
-Hydroxychloroquine/Chloroquine + Azithromycin + Zinc - Already proven safe by the FDA (and decades of use in each case) and more than enough efficacy data to warrant being used larger scale. The level of evidence for off label use is consistent with other drugs and therapies’ off label uses.
Obviously no one will do randomized blind clinical trials during a pandemic so you won’t have full FDA approval so wha
-other antivirals (Kaletra, Remdesivir) - safety seems promising so far in the non FDA approved medications as does efficacy in all of them.
Like I said, testing for active disease and antibodies need to improve but the tests we have now are accurate so it is more a matter of scaling up (especially the serological testing for antibodies) rather than development.
Also, we don't know (or so you claim)
* post-recovery immunity duration - We haven’t seen any reinfection or found the ability to reinfect so until that changes this one is checked off. This is pretty well recognized but I’m sure it will be tested further.
* true infection rate - according to a recently released study from Stanford, it found the likely prevalence of antibodies in a defined area (Santa Clara Co) to be 50-80 fold the official numbers. [URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1[/URL]
* true mortality rate - see above but a 50 fold decrease in mortality rate (claimed 2%) means a 0.04% mortality in the population. This information still doesn’t include widespread use of prescription drug therapies.
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu - multiple strains (8 I believe have been found already) and no indication any have morphed to be more virulent or deadly. Quite the opposite actually, they seem to have morphed to be less deadly if anything.
As for your last statement, does that mean that we can also send you the bill for our economy? And the small businesses that close?
Looking at this from a single perspective is the luxury someone like Fauci has but not a luxury politicians and most businesses have.
Mullins Revenge
Well-known member
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=385324][quote="fuchsia" post=385319][quote="JohnnyFan" post=385298][quote="pdcjay" post=385265]The idea we can’t open back up before a vaccine is just absolutely garbage. Quarantining wasn’t about preventing people from getting COVID, it was about “flattening the curve” so our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed. 75% of the population was supposed to get COVID regardless which would provide a good start at herd immunity. That herd immunity and curative therapies decrease the need for a long quarantine...as long as we can test for active disease properly. Besides, a vaccine will be out in about 6 months or less for those who don’t have antibodies.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.[/quote]
I hate vaccines, especially after taking the flu vaccine decades ago and ending up in bed for 1 month. Even with that experience, I will avoid crowds until I take a vaccine that is almost certain to protect me. Every day, the news gets worse. People with healthy kidneys ending up on dialysis. Young people with damaged lungs, livers and kidneys. Too early to say if it's permanent. If I can watch a sitcom with their canned laughter, I can watch any sport with simulated crowd noise.[/quote]
Couldnt agree more with your 1st sentence. I think its crazy people would put a rushed out vaccine into their bodies. Ill pass on that.
NFL and NCAA football will start on time. MLB will start by July 4th, MLS between mid June and July 4th, NBA May have abbreviated playoffs but will probably just cancel.[/quote]
Part of the problem is we are missing two of the pieces you mention. There is no proven curative therapy for Covid-19. The current treatment consists of fluids, lie on your stomach, take trial drugs designed for other illness, and pray. Regarding testing, it looks like it is going to take a while to get where we need to be. We got off to an awful slow start with testing. We may have come a long way, but it is still far from where it needs to be.[/quote]
Also, we don't know
* post-recovery immunity duration
* true infection rate
* true mortality rate
* are we dealing with a single strain or something that morphs like flu
and much, much, more.
The back to work advocates have my support as soon as they can guarantee that all the extra death is confined to their families.[/quote]
I hate vaccines, especially after taking the flu vaccine decades ago and ending up in bed for 1 month. Even with that experience, I will avoid crowds until I take a vaccine that is almost certain to protect me. Every day, the news gets worse. People with healthy kidneys ending up on dialysis. Young people with damaged lungs, livers and kidneys. Too early to say if it's permanent. If I can watch a sitcom with their canned laughter, I can watch any sport with simulated crowd noise.[/quote]
Couldnt agree more with your 1st sentence. I think its crazy people would put a rushed out vaccine into their bodies. Ill pass on that.
Spocky Ramone
Well-known member
The latest Rakuten Monkey business
https://nypost.com/2020/04/19/cpbl-benches-clear-during-rakuten-monkeys-vs-fubon-guardians/
https://nypost.com/2020/04/19/cpbl-benches-clear-during-rakuten-monkeys-vs-fubon-guardians/
When sports do come back, fans will be wearing team Face Masks and Protective Team Gloves. A red and white--"we are NY's Team.
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