Bryant, Wed., Dec. 11, 7p, CBSSN

Would really like to see us use this game to set up a rotation and stick to it. Hope Rick doesn’t do his random start thing.
Zuby, Luis, Scott, Wilcher, Richmond

6th man Smith who honestly is our 3 best player but whatever. Think you have to limit as much as you can his time on court with Richmond anyway.

7th Prey. He is much better than Vince. It is actually weird what Pitino doing here.

8th should be Glover but don’t think Pitino ready to shelf Air Dunlap yet.
 
It is a common situation in college basketball that a coach will give minutes to one player over another when it is obvious to all that the player getting less minutes is the better player at that point in time.
The good coaches are thinking ahead to next month or even next year and feel that the strategy will pay dividends at some point in player development.
 
Larry Wright said:
Would really like to see us use this game to set up a rotation and stick to it. Hope Rick doesn’t do his random start thing.
Zuby, Luis, Scott, Wilcher, Richmond

6th man Smith who honestly is our 3 best player but whatever. Think you have to limit as much as you can his time on court with Richmond anyway.

7th Prey. He is much better than Vince. It is actually weird what Pitino doing here.

8th should be Glover but don’t think Pitino ready to shelf Air Dunlap yet.
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Agree on the lineup, usage, and the need for predictable rotations (one my great frustrations with Pitino). I do not think you can play Smith and Richmond together, and I would start Richmond. Sim can play with anyone so you put him at the 2, and the front line is clearly Zuby, Luis and Scott.

Smith should get significant minutes off the bench as instant offense and when we want to press. Prey has been used in a 2-big lineup with Zuby and it has gone OK. I would use him for Luis and keep Scott on the floor because with Zuby, Prey and Richmond on the floor it would be better to keep Scott out there since he plays outside the paint and we don't need 4 guys who all want to attack the rim.

You need minutes from Dunlap and Vince.

To me at the moment Glover is a one-dimensional player and he shoots too much be he can be used the way Pitino did vs K State, for offense off the bench.
 
lawmanfan said:
Agree on the lineup, usage, and the need for predictable rotations (one my great frustrations with Pitino). I do not think you can play Smith and Richmond together, and I would start Richmond. Sim can play with anyone so you put him at the 2, and the front line is clearly Zuby, Luis and Scott.

Smith should get significant minutes off the bench as instant offense and when we want to press. Prey has been used in a 2-big lineup with Zuby and it has gone OK. I would use him for Luis and keep Scott on the floor because with Zuby, Prey and Richmond on the floor it would be better to keep Scott out there since he plays outside the paint and we don't need 4 guys who all want to attack the rim.

You need minutes from Dunlap and Vince.

To me at the moment Glover is a one-dimensional player and he shoots too much be he can be used the way Pitino did vs K State, for offense off the bench.
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Would add Smith is very good at feeding Zuby down low and they have developed a nice two man game.
 
Mullins Revenge said:
I am tired of these types of games. I think this and Deleware are all that are left.

We will crush Bryant on Wed.

I think there should be 2 or 3 max of these kinds of games a season. And they should be the 1st 3 games.

Cupcakes in mid december should be off the table.
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There's not many teams that only have 2-3 buy games...and we're not Kansas or Alabama...you need games to work out the kinks...
 
SJUDave said:
There's not many teams that only have 2-3 buy games...and we're not Kansas or Alabama...you need games to work out the kinks...
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Not saying this to disagree, but Kansas has five buy games (Howard, Oakland, UNCW, Furman, Brown). Auburn has the #1 SOS and they had Vermont, Kent St, N Alabama, and still have Georgia St/Monmouth. I guess Richmond is one too but not sure.

I actually think having buy games early in the season are more important than ever with the portal. The Michigan game last year should've showed that to people. We need a few games to get guys to jell, and after a tough stretch, its good to have another breather.

In future years, in a 13 game non-conference schedule, I hope we have 5 buy games (please all local), 2 against competitive mid-majors (e.g. New Mexico), and six against high conference teams. Gotta get as many opportunities to beat teams in the tournament
 
dk423 said:
Not saying this to disagree, but Kansas has five buy games (Howard, Oakland, UNCW, Furman, Brown). Auburn has the #1 SOS and they had Vermont, Kent St, N Alabama, and still have Georgia St/Monmouth. I guess Richmond is one too but not sure.

I actually think having buy games early in the season are more important than ever with the portal. The Michigan game last year should've showed that to people. We need a few games to get guys to jell, and after a tough stretch, its good to have another breather.

In future years, in a 13 game non-conference schedule, I hope we have 5 buy games (please all local), 2 against competitive mid-majors (e.g. New Mexico), and six against high conference teams. Gotta get as many opportunities to beat teams in the tournament
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Comparing us to two of best Big East teams UCONN and Marquette each had 5 games against much lesser competition and we had 6.No reason we shouldn’t cut that to 5 next season.
 
dk423 said:
Not saying this to disagree, but Kansas has five buy games (Howard, Oakland, UNCW, Furman, Brown). Auburn has the #1 SOS and they had Vermont, Kent St, N Alabama, and still have Georgia St/Monmouth. I guess Richmond is one too but not sure.

I actually think having buy games early in the season are more important than ever with the portal. The Michigan game last year should've showed that to people. We need a few games to get guys to jell, and after a tough stretch, its good to have another breather.

In future years, in a 13 game non-conference schedule, I hope we have 5 buy games (please all local), 2 against competitive mid-majors (e.g. New Mexico), and six against high conference teams. Gotta get as many opportunities to beat teams in the tournament
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With 20 conference games that leaves 11 non conference schedule but I like your breakdown so where would you subtract 2 games.
 
bamafan said:
With 20 conference games that leaves 11 non conference schedule but I like your breakdown so where would you subtract 2 games.
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Whoops. I'd honestly get rid of the two mid-majors and try to bolster one buy game just a bit. In other words, maybe instead of playing Delaware, we play a program that's always very good on their level ( like a Vermont)
 
bucketshardy said:
I expect this game to be closer than Kansas St. Not so much a let down by us (maybe to start) - but think they keep it within 10-15. Dont think we see the same Zuby (he clearly plays up to the comp- which is good) - but maybe some more experimenting by Rick- getting Jaiden/Prey/Vince more mins....

And... dont laugh... but Pinzon... lol.... dudes a bucket. kid is shooting 53%!!! from 3.... he's a Senior now... really liked him when he was here- so he'll be extra fired up. They got two others right under 40%... gonna have to guard the line well.

Taking Bryant and the points on this one (think it will open around +23)
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Calling Monte, calling Monte, he called this years ago.
 
Yea I like Glover’s potential to be a microwave guy this year. Get him some minutes see if he can get hot, if he isn’t, not the end of the world. I like the kid’s quickness particularly, if opposing players close out on him or go for a pumpfake, he can get to the rim in a hurry
 
Jack Williams said:
Yea I like Glover’s potential to be a microwave guy this year. Get him some minutes see if he can get hot, if he isn’t, not the end of the world. I like the kid’s quickness particularly, if opposing players close out on him or go for a pumpfake, he can get to the rim in a hurry
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Also politics wise, it'll show him that he can be a substantial rotation guy next year.
 
paultzman said:
Would add Smith is very good at feeding Zuby down low and they have developed a nice two man game.
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I agree with Larry Wright that Smith is one of the best players on the team and I love his game. It's only that I don't think the Richmond-Smith backcourt has worked out as hoped, and if it is a choice between the two of them I personally would start Kadary and bring Smith off the bench. If someone said they think the team would have more success as press / run & gun and they preferred Smith for that approach, I wouldn't argue.

I also think that Kadary's experience in the league will be a big plus once league play starts. But it's no shade to Smith who's terrific.
 
lawmanfan said:
I agree with Larry Wright that Smith is one of the best players on the team and I love his game. It's only that I don't think the Richmond-Smith backcourt has worked out as hoped, and if it is a choice between the two of them I personally would start Kadary and bring Smith off the bench. If someone said they think the team would have more success as press / run & gun and they preferred Smith for that approach, I wouldn't argue.

I also think that Kadary's experience in the league will be a big plus once league play starts. But it's no shade to Smith who's terrific.
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I love Smith's rebounding - i think a Smith/Kadary/Luis/Scott/Zuby lineup (shocker... i know)- will be our goto crunch time 5 come conf play
 
lawmanfan said:
I agree with Larry Wright that Smith is one of the best players on the team and I love his game. It's only that I don't think the Richmond-Smith backcourt has worked out as hoped, and if it is a choice between the two of them I personally would start Kadary and bring Smith off the bench. If someone said they think the team would have more success as press / run & gun and they preferred Smith for that approach, I wouldn't argue.

I also think that Kadary's experience in the league will be a big plus once league play starts. But it's no shade to Smith who's terrific.
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No argument there, was simply pointing out a nice wrinkle between Zuby and Smith. As long as Smith gets good minutes I am fine.
 
dk423 said:
Not saying this to disagree, but Kansas has five buy games (Howard, Oakland, UNCW, Furman, Brown). Auburn has the #1 SOS and they had Vermont, Kent St, N Alabama, and still have Georgia St/Monmouth. I guess Richmond is one too but not sure.

I actually think having buy games early in the season are more important than ever with the portal. The Michigan game last year should've showed that to people. We need a few games to get guys to jell, and after a tough stretch, its good to have another breather.

In future years, in a 13 game non-conference schedule, I hope we have 5 buy games (please all local), 2 against competitive mid-majors (e.g. New Mexico), and six against high conference teams. Gotta get as many opportunities to beat teams in the tournament
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I brought up Alabama and Kansas as two teams that load up their non con and usually have less than 5-6 buy games...you get my point...
 
lawmanfan said:
I agree with Larry Wright that Smith is one of the best players on the team and I love his game. It's only that I don't think the Richmond-Smith backcourt has worked out as hoped, and if it is a choice between the two of them I personally would start Kadary and bring Smith off the bench. If someone said they think the team would have more success as press / run & gun and they preferred Smith for that approach, I wouldn't argue.

I also think that Kadary's experience in the league will be a big plus once league play starts. But it's no shade to Smith who's terrific.
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The thing is there is no way Richmond sits no matter what Smith does or does not do. Too much time, effort and money invested in him.
I agree the 2 don’t work well together and I actually think Smith the better player but I am realistic so Smith to the bench.
 
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