Boogie (Days And) Nights

Chriscin33 said:
19 years old, late first round or second round pick this year or 20 years old Top 15 pick next year. You can decide which is better for the player assuming he doesn’t get hurt.
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I believe Fland will still only be 18 when the draft is held this year. There just seems to be a crazy wide view of where he'd land in the draft this year.
 
L J S A said:
You are missing my point. Have you looked at any mock drafts at all?
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I have. So what? Who’s doing the Mocks? Coaches? Staff? Of course not.
The way it works, I believe, is that teams will talk to players’ agents. The agents will ask: are you interested in my player? Will you draft him if he falls to you at the end of the first round? How about the second round? Then the agent goes back to the player, and a decision is made to perhaps return to a college, go overseas, sign as a UDFA with an NBA team, etc.
And this is done after the NBA evaluations.
CRP probably told RJ that even if he’s not drafted, sign as an UDFA with an NBA team.
CRP knows the game. Just saying.
Ps. I guarantee that Boogie’s agent knows that he will be drafted because he knows the game too He portaled as a disaster plan.
 
MugCostanza said:
Maybe, but Sellers and Jackson were both heavily rumored to be pretty much locked up while the staff was still pursuing Lee, so they always knew a big minute PG was potentially in the cards
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Agree but I think Pitino could have defined Lee’s role more as a distributor more than a scoring threat. I don’t think he would (or could) do that with Boogie who has more of a scorers mentality which with this group may be over kill?
 
Silly Donovan said:
Agree but I think Pitino could have defined Lee’s role more as a distributor more than a scoring threat. I don’t think he would (or could) do that with Boogie who has more of a scorers mentality which with this group may be over kill?
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Very valid point, there still will only be one ball to go around. But I will say this, I think the team needs a natural PG on the roster either way and god forbid Jackson gets hurt or bombs, this Darling kid gives me uncertainty as the guy who can orchestrate all this talent.
 
dk423 said:
Boogie turns 19 in July. Don't think he would be too old to be a top 10 pick for next year's draft (which by the way, is much weaker)
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Please realize that Coach Cal knows the NBA draft game too. Cal advised Boogie (no kidding) to enter the draft.
Cal already recruited over Boogie. Boogie is in the portal in case he gets hurt in the evaluation process or there’s a medical red flag.
I truly think that a healthy undrafted Boogie to STJs is Fantasy Island.
 
Ralph318! said:
Please realize that Coach Cal knows the NBA draft game too. Cal advised Boogie (no kidding) to enter the draft.
Cal already recruited over Boogie. Boogie is in the portal in case he gets hurt in the evaluation process or there’s a medical red flag.
I truly think that a healthy undrafted Boogie to STJs is Fantasy Island.
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Now that he's in the portal, it's not fantasy. Plain and simple.

We're talking about someone who's on ESPN's big board at #53. We aren't talking about someone who's ranked at #13. It's a huge difference.

The truth is, its way too premature to know what will happen. It will all be determined by the NBA combine, interviews and individual workout performances. It is clear he has work ahead of him. I wouldn't argue with anyone if they think he'll impress and a team will guarantee him a top 25 pick. Its certainly easy to imagine.

But what if those three things go fine or mediocre? We know he's not going to Arkansas, or else he wouldn't be in the portal. We know he can make more money in college for one year. And, if he raises his draft stock for a weaker draft next year, he knows he can make tens of millions of more guaranteed money over four years.

We won't know until 3-4 weeks from now, once we hear how player's draft stock has gone up or down.
 
Ralph318! said:
How is RJs value going to go up? He will not be playing for us, so he will have a new coach, new teammates, a new system, a new campus, new classes, new classmates, etc. RJ is not a teenager, he is a grown man with a significant injury history (wrist and both shins).
CRP gave RJ the correct advice. He should listen.
Btw, Chris Ledlum has been playing very successfully in France. The NBA and the G League are not the only options.
23 going on 24 in college is not a blueprint for NBA success.
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Most European players don’t make $3 million a year. Plus there are issues with teams paying and the adjustment is not easy. If RJ is not going to get drafted he should stay in college, take $3 million and be the “man” on at a school that has the potential to make a deep run.

I think about some of these kids who make the NBA and end up being role players the rest of their careers. Of course the money is good and they’re playing at the highest level. But they’ll never again have the opportunity to be a star. If he stays in school, RJ could make $3 or even $4 million and be a star for one more year. That’s life altering money. Not an easy decision.
 
Chriscin33 said:
From an economic standpoint and not as a biased St John’s fan, if this kid is not a lock Top 20 pick and based on what we are all reading he is far from that, he should come back to college (to whatever team will pay his rate) for a guaranteed 3 mil check at minimum, fine tune your game, get stronger and then go to the draft and play in the league as a 20 year old as a Top 15 pick.
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Being a lottery pick at 20 is still in an ideal age range. Development wise you could argue either way but the economics are certainly looking better to stay in school.

Its also worth noting that coming to St John’s you’re in NYC and that certainly helps in landing NIL deals with big brands. Doing this in college and winning here will establish relationships that’ll enable him to keep his branding and some of those deals likely through his transition into the NBA. If we win and the pub he will get could end up still paying off 10 years down the road. Could “The Boogie” be NoBull’s signature basketball sneaker for the next 15 years?
 
Marillac2 said:
Repole is probably similar to Cohen and the Mets...there is probably a range they want to work within, but they will reevaluate after the roster starts taking shape. When you have a player like Zuby as a senior, then add what we've added, and you see a player like Boogie Fland available in the 11th hour...I'd think you have to go all in at that point. That might take away what you pay in subsequent years, but how many chances do you have to be a favorite to win the national championship?
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As the best profiler here with Dinkins you are correct but they’d go even more in because a lot is just a 1 year commitment. Winners win and when they have better shot they go all in
 
MugCostanza said:
Nice that we have pretty much the whole roster in place on April 24th so we can focus solely on this one for the next month
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It's worked out pretty much the best way it could: The money is there. We aren't the same crap program he was turning his nose up at in the past. A lot of the desirable schools are probably set at PG by now. Of the ones that aren't, someone will panic and pay Haggerty beforehand.

Now we sit back and wait . . .
 
Watching the physicality of that Knicks game last night, Boogie could probably use another year of development/strength conditioning. What better place to do it than with CRP, and then be a lottery pick next year in a weak NBA Draft.

Still hoping there's a chance.
 
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