Don't forget, we have the Xaivian Lee money still there. That was probably upwards of 2.5 million.
Boogie (Days And) Nights
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Also, the importance of such early buzz cannot be understated now.
Normally I do not care about that, but being talked about as a top 10 team not only gets fans attention, but also corporations who will pay to be associated with the NYC college basketball team on a few ads/commercials.
Also having a good relationship with the Garden is important. With the advent of the mega conferences, the problem of having difficulties scheduling high profile non conference games is not unique to us. The teams in those conferences have it too in reverse. They have many conference games to play.
Having the Garden in their back pocket gives SJU an ace in the hole. Other schools will look long and hard to find ways to schedule a game against a ranked SJU at the Garden.
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Chriscin33
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Yes because Mitchell’s money probably came from Sim’s money. Wonder what the back conversations are about the possibility of Boogie being available and their position on that. I am sure they have already laid the ground work if they want him, assuming he becomes an option.
Mitchell was budgeted prior to Sim or Vince leaving. So we definitely are -- yes, I know this is crazy -- probably underbudget right now. lol.
Chriscin33
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Knowing Pitino, he probably already knew Boogie was going to possibly be an option, has this money still available, and while they tried for Lee, they went “hard” after no other big time PGs it seems nor did you hear them attached to any of those other big time PGs
I admit I have no real knowledge of Boogie ‘s game , other than the time he played against us , coming off Cal ‘s bench
I wonder what the hesitation is , among NBA scouts is , since other Posters who know Boogie’s game , rave about him as near All World
To me , he looks small for a NBA guard , unless he’s the next Allen Iverson ?
There must be a Scout’s file on him that projects him as very late 1 st round or early 2nd.
Obviously , why wouldn’t Pitino look to bring him here for 1 more year , if the Stars align so .
In the words of the Sports Pope: let’s be honest. Many of us were in Providence. Did Mr. Fland distinguish himself at all? I humbly say NO.
The NBA drafts players based upon future projections. Boogie is not ready for the NBA right now. But he still will be drafted. Most likely the early second round. His value will only go down too, because he will get drafted on potential. I evaluate him as OVERRATED. Sorry.
RJ should NOT return to college if he has a smart agent. WHY? Is value will only go DOWN. CRP is correct in advising RJ to go all in for the NBA, despite RJ pooping the sheets in Providence. He probably will have to wait for the mid to late second round.
Please stop with the Boogie fantasies. Only Arkansas will overpay him.
Chriscin33
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Certainly agree about RJ but I think my thoughts on Fland, independent of him coming or not, getting drafted on his potential in the second round gives him no financial certainties while he knows if he comes back to college for another year, he is guaranteed a big fat check and can reassess again after that year. This will all be figured out anyway in the next month anyway depending on if he withdraws or not.
Think of it this way though.That was his second game in two months. Risking further injury on his thumb in order to play for a team that he thought would be one-and-done. Pretty impressive character and grit for that, right?
Prior to his thumb injury on January 11th, in 15 games, he averaged: 15.5/6 assists/4 rebounds/1.7 steals, only 1.7 turnovers/1.5 fouls.
41% FG/36% 3PT/81% FT. They were also 11-4. He tried to play through injury, and they shut it down after two games. His numbers definitely took a little bit of a dip against better competition.
We're extremely lucky this is even a remote possibility. Its basically because the thumb injury derailed his season. But any type of second year jump with us, especially given his ball handling/passing prowess, would make us national title favorites and the number one preseason team.
And unlike RJ, he's only 18. He can still be very young, clean up some parts of his game, and be a top 10 pick.
Then, based upon your very detailed analysis, he will be drafted. NBA evaluators know about his thumb.
CRP is not waiting with a bag for Boogie. We will be better off with Dylan Darling. Tyson Chicken will be paying Boogie, not Mike R.
Most likely he will be drafted, play in the G League and be a bust.
Boogie should look to the NBA now, and get his NBA money now.
Ian is our starting PG, and we are blessed and fortunate. He will be GREAT.
don_pitino
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Calipari already said "Tyson chicken" won't be paying Boogie, hence why he is in the portal
Redenbacher
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Don't agree with RJ's value only going down if he goes back to college for another year. He's not even on the NBA draft board right now. Another stellar college year could change that for him.
RJ will be 23 years old for next year's NBA draft. Last year, 11 of the players drafted were 23 years old, including 4 first rounders. So it's not like he will be over the hill. Plus, he will make around 6 years' worth of G-League salary for one more year of college.
Fland at 18 years of age has tons of time on his side to stay in college.
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Chriscin33
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Also he recruited the number 1 PG in America (Acuff) and have Wagner. That is their starting back court. Fland would not be going back to Arkansas.
How is RJs value going to go up? He will not be playing for us, so he will have a new coach, new teammates, a new system, a new campus, new classes, new classmates, etc. RJ is not a teenager, he is a grown man with a significant injury history (wrist and both shins).
CRP gave RJ the correct advice. He should listen.
Btw, Chris Ledlum has been playing very successfully in France. The NBA and the G League are not the only options.
23 going on 24 in college is not a blueprint for NBA success.
My main concern would be if he'd fully buy into the team first culture next year, or try too much to make it a personal audition for the NBA.
Chemistry is my main concern no matter who we add.
At least with Boogie, the thing to impress the NBA the most would be distributing the ball and playmaking for others + playing good defense.
Redenbacher
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Just because he is not playing for SJU does not mean his value cannot go up next year. If he comes back to college, he will almost certainly be playing for a top tier team with a top tier coach.
Yes, in a prefect world RJ would be younger. But look at the 23 years olds who were drafted last year and are currently playing in the NBA - eg, Dalton Knecht, Baylor Scheierman, Terrence Shannon Jr. , etc. Being 23 in college is not a death wish for making the NBA. RJ doesn't want to follow in Ledlum's footsteps, he's a far better player than Ledlum.
That’s what Ian will be doing. Forget Boogie and forget RJ.