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Sidenote great to see OLV72 as usual as weatherman and redstormrising and also run into SJU Superfan Sleaveless guy and his cohort sjuredmen2011 or whatever nickname he goes by :) Great dudes all around
 
2nd half was semi enjoyable. The ref's sucked and made a lot of it unbearable.

Would have liked the win but also glad the season is over. Jones played real good.

All I'm going to say is this. I can get over turnovers and I can get over missed shots and even missed ft's.

BUT whoever is responsible for teaching defense you flat out did a horrible job doing it and Mullin as out CEO needs to take a hard look at the moving parts of the program and needs to see what worked and what didn't work because an influx of talent won't be just the recipe for defense. You need to teach these kids how to play defense and we sucked just as much the last game of the season as we did in the beginning of the season

No free passes next year and a lot of people need to do some soul searching and not just think influx of talent will solve everything because look at teams like LSU
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Sound post.

You can also put Georgetown in the same boat as LSU. Both teams have a lot of talent, per rankings, but neither are where their fans thought they'd be at this juncture.
 
Very proud of the effort last night
When we were down 17, the kids could have quit and mailed it in
But they fought back, gave it their all and almost pulled it out
Next year's focus has to be on defense, turnovers and free throw shooting
Thanks to the seniors for their efforts during a very difficult season
Let's turn the page and enjoy the "real" beginning of the Mullin era next year
The days of St John's being at the bottom of the league standings are over!!
 
3 thoughts:

- - Next season Mully and staff will begin to stand or fall with their own players so discussion regarding how good of a job will be clearer..

- - Christian Jones developed into a solid player this season with an ability to put the ball on the floor which many players his size don't have.

- - Hopefully last evening someone had an opportunity to introduce Christian Jones to the TV Announcer who seemingly did not know Jones while he was serving as the coach at StJohn's.
 
3 thoughts:

- - Next season Mully and staff will begin to stand or fall with their own players so discussion regarding how good of a job will be clearer..

- - Christian Jones developed into a solid player this season with an ability to put the ball on the floor which many players his size don't have.

- - Hopefully last evening someone had an opportunity to introduce Christian Jones to the TV Announcer who seemingly did not know Jones while he was serving as the coach at StJohn's.
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Essentially these were their own players.
 
Putting this season behind us is prudent, but Maher is spot on re the defense being a horror. LoVett and some new guys will certainly help on the offensive end, but the need to value the ball & avoid senseless turnovers has to also be a point of emphasis.

A young team next year, with more offensive pieces hopefully, will still have to reduce turnovers, rebound better & stop allowing easy buckets.

IMO, staff has a lot of work to do to ensure SJU competes & reasonably succeeds next season. Go to it, clock is ticking.
 
Worst season in St. John's history?

The sexcapades season was bad, but atleast that was the walkons.
This was the regular players, so I'd say this year.
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As a counterpoint, the sexcapde said season was a year without hope. Not much talent, no leadership and real questions whether the program would recover.

We took our lumps this year, but at least we have reason to believe it will get better.
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Yes we did but last night we were no push-overs The fouls killed us no team could overcome come the amt and the high % M shot Do not know but as a team they must have shot 85%
WAS STILL DISAPPOINTED IN Mussinis abiltily to get open and hit his shots Again do not know what he scored but if anyone just hit 2 more #s and we had one less foul we would still be playing
 
Putting this season behind us is prudent, but Maher is spot on re the defense being a horror. LoVett and some new guys will certainly help on the offensive end, but the need to value the ball & avoid senseless turnovers has to also be a point of emphasis.

A young team next year, with more offensive pieces hopefully, will still have to reduce turnovers, rebound better & stop allowing easy buckets.

IMO, staff has a lot of work to do to ensure SJU competes & reasonably succeeds next season. Go to it, clock is ticking.
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Still need to have very reasonable expectations next year. 15-17 wins is all I think will happen. Year there is when I expect the jump to happen.
 
Glad to see the team battle till the end, they will be remembered in my eyes as a group who fought hard but was severely overmatched talent and experience-wise. It's going to take awhile for CM to get his record back to .500 but I believe once he does we will be a long long long way from where we are now as a program.
 
Putting this season behind us is prudent, but Maher is spot on re the defense being a horror. LoVett and some new guys will certainly help on the offensive end, but the need to value the ball & avoid senseless turnovers has to also be a point of emphasis.

A young team next year, with more offensive pieces hopefully, will still have to reduce turnovers, rebound better & stop allowing easy buckets.

IMO, staff has a lot of work to do to ensure SJU competes & reasonably succeeds next season. Go to it, clock is ticking.
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Still need to have very reasonable expectations next year. 15-17 wins is all I think will happen. Year there is when I expect the jump to happen.
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Concur, 15 would be great next year & year three could be fun.

Am a Mullin supporter, but think this staff has not yet evidenced ability to "'steal games" as they say. Perhaps that is unfair, because this year the roster certainly sucked. That said, I just don't feel confident about the staff out coaching most peers to this point. In fairness to CM & comrades it is obviously early in his coaching development. Let's hope both the players and staff are on a positive plane of development. Only heading to year two in this total rebuild, so patience & reasonable expectations seem in order.
 
Putting this season behind us is prudent, but Maher is spot on re the defense being a horror. LoVett and some new guys will certainly help on the offensive end, but the need to value the ball & avoid senseless turnovers has to also be a point of emphasis.

A young team next year, with more offensive pieces hopefully, will still have to reduce turnovers, rebound better & stop allowing easy buckets.

IMO, staff has a lot of work to do to ensure SJU competes & reasonably succeeds next season. Go to it, clock is ticking.
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Still need to have very reasonable expectations next year. 15-17 wins is all I think will happen. Year there is when I expect the jump to happen.
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Concur, 15 would be great next year & year three could be fun.

Am a Mullin supporter, but think this staff has not yet evidenced ability to "'steal games" as they say. Perhaps that is unfair, because this year the roster certainly sucked. That said, I just don't feel confident about the staff out coaching most peers to this point. In fairness to CM & comrades it is obviously early in his coaching development. Let's hope both the players and staff are on a positive plane of development. Only heading to year two in this total rebuild, so patience & reasonable expectations seem in order.
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Well put. My hope for next year is that it doesn't suck. Can't say that about this year.
 
Real nice effort.! Did those refs get paid by the foul? Was bad both ways but again I thought we got wrong end of the stick. And in a foul-a- thon it is at our disadvantage as most teams are better free throw shooters than us, though Mussini luckily was the one getting fouled down the stretch.
 
Real nice effort.! Did those refs get paid by the foul? Was bad both ways but again I thought we got wrong end of the stick. And in a foul-a- thon it is at our disadvantage as most teams are better free throw shooters than us, though Mussini luckily was the one getting fouled down the stretch.
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At the very least, officiating just ruined the pace & flow of a competitive contest. I used to bitch about the "grind play" of old BE, but this "pity patter" crap hurts the game. Fans pay to see players, not "letter of law" zebras. Kudos to Gus Johnson for stating such.
 
Putting this season behind us is prudent, but Maher is spot on re the defense being a horror. LoVett and some new guys will certainly help on the offensive end, but the need to value the ball & avoid senseless turnovers has to also be a point of emphasis.

A young team next year, with more offensive pieces hopefully, will still have to reduce turnovers, rebound better & stop allowing easy buckets.

IMO, staff has a lot of work to do to ensure SJU competes & reasonably succeeds next season. Go to it, clock is ticking.
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Still need to have very reasonable expectations next year. 15-17 wins is all I think will happen. Year there is when I expect the jump to happen.
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Concur, 15 would be great next year & year three could be fun.

Am a Mullin supporter, but think this staff has not yet evidenced ability to "'steal games" as they say. Perhaps that is unfair, because this year the roster certainly sucked. That said, I just don't feel confident about the staff out coaching most peers to this point. In fairness to CM & comrades it is obviously early in his coaching development. Let's hope both the players and staff are on a positive plane of development. Only heading to year two in this total rebuild, so patience & reasonable expectations seem in order.
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I really don't think the failure to win the end game is on the staff, especially last night. Good players bear down and make plays when it matters most. We don't have that type of talent yet. Staff saved 3 timeouts while Wojo
had none. We couldn't just foul because they were lights out from the line. Mullin threw some full court presses at them, but every foul was being called. Within a minute or 2, Ellenson left wide open from 3, and CJ spins and misses from 6 feet, next possession gets stripped and loses the ball, and then makes an out of control drive that looked like he was given the ball on 4th and goal and was heading for the end zone. The way he played, the team gave it to the right guy. CJ took it to the basket, but Marquette's guys made plays while we didn't.
 
Putting this season behind us is prudent, but Maher is spot on re the defense being a horror. LoVett and some new guys will certainly help on the offensive end, but the need to value the ball & avoid senseless turnovers has to also be a point of emphasis.

A young team next year, with more offensive pieces hopefully, will still have to reduce turnovers, rebound better & stop allowing easy buckets.

IMO, staff has a lot of work to do to ensure SJU competes & reasonably succeeds next season. Go to it, clock is ticking.
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Still need to have very reasonable expectations next year. 15-17 wins is all I think will happen. Year there is when I expect the jump to happen.
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Concur, 15 would be great next year & year three could be fun.

Am a Mullin supporter, but think this staff has not yet evidenced ability to "'steal games" as they say. Perhaps that is unfair, because this year the roster certainly sucked. That said, I just don't feel confident about the staff out coaching most peers to this point. In fairness to CM & comrades it is obviously early in his coaching development. Let's hope both the players and staff are on a positive plane of development. Only heading to year two in this total rebuild, so patience & reasonable expectations seem in order.
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I really don't think the failure to win the end game is on the staff, especially last night. Good players bear down and make plays when it matters most. We don't have that type of talent yet. Staff saved 3 timeouts while Wojo
had none. We couldn't just foul because they were lights out from the line. Mullin threw some full court presses at them, but every foul was being called. Within a minute or 2, Ellenson left wide open from 3, and CJ spins and misses from 6 feet, next possession gets stripped and loses the ball, and then makes an out of control drive that looked like he was given the ball on 4th and goal and was heading for the end zone. The way he played, the team gave it to the right guy. CJ took it to the basket, but Marquette's guys made plays while we didn't.
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I was not commenting on last night, just the season in general. Your points about last night at crunch time are quite fair IMO. Players have to execute. We just did not seize critical opportunities, can't fault staff on those.

Btw, I doubt Odell B of NY Giants could have caught that rocket from Jones. :)
 
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