BE Awards
- Thread starter tom in salem
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cooley coach of the year.
Cooley has done a good job considering the injuries and the early season incident, but that team is still loaded. Henton is a beast, Batts is a 2nd round NBA pick, Cotton is the best back court scorer in the conference, and Harris and Derozier give them excellent size and depth up front. They also have shooters all over the court.
What Lavin did in 2010-2011 was more impressive, becuase Hardy didn't have 1/10th the resume or experience Cotton brought in this year to run the point out of position. Lavin's team also didn't have the size or shooting of this Providence team.
Wright and McDermott have done amazing jobs. I picked them to finish 1-2, but that was just speculation. I didn't think theye'd both be in the top ten late, although I did think top 25. Wright couldn't have done better.
If we win @ Marquette, Lavin needs to be considered as well. 0-5 with three games remaining against Nova/Creighton to 10-8 would be an incredible turnaround the likes of which this league has never seen. That is impressive working in a stud frosh pg, two sophs, and a first year JUCO...while dealing with off the court issues and transfer rumors.
What Lavin did in 2010-2011 was more impressive, becuase Hardy didn't have 1/10th the resume or experience Cotton brought in this year to run the point out of position. Lavin's team also didn't have the size or shooting of this Providence team.
Wright and McDermott have done amazing jobs. I picked them to finish 1-2, but that was just speculation. I didn't think theye'd both be in the top ten late, although I did think top 25. Wright couldn't have done better.
If we win @ Marquette, Lavin needs to be considered as well. 0-5 with three games remaining against Nova/Creighton to 10-8 would be an incredible turnaround the likes of which this league has never seen. That is impressive working in a stud frosh pg, two sophs, and a first year JUCO...while dealing with off the court issues and transfer rumors.
Cooley has done masterful job, despite losing three players, two of whom would have been in rotation. He has also integrated the transfer from Wake very well and developed Forte nicely. Respect your opinion Marillac, but to to compare Lavin's accomplishments, even getting to 10-8 is a stretch in my opinion. Couldn't one say Lavin indecisiveness about establishing a rotation for too long cost us? Not a Cooley apostle, but can't think of too many things he did wrong in the face of adversity right from start of season. I believe PC overachieved and we underachieved to date. Making a run in BE T, after a road win at M'Q would certainly alter that. Go Johnnies!
MBoutchatski
Member
Lavin would only be in the discussion for biggest underachiever in conference. This team should be cruising to an ncaa bid but instead we're left biting our nails with each passing day.
MBoutchatski
Member
All-Big East First Team:
- McDermott
- Cotton
- Pinkston
- Christon
- Smith-Rivera
2nd Team
- Harrison
- Sampson
- Starks
- Gardner
- Bell
- McDermott
- Cotton
- Pinkston
- Christon
- Smith-Rivera
2nd Team
- Harrison
- Sampson
- Starks
- Gardner
- Bell
Why am I not surprised you didn't give Harrison the first team nod?
MBoutchatski
Member
Why am i not surprised you overlook his horrid fg percentage?
MBoutchatski
Member
He will probably get first team bc its been a weak year in terms of individual performance, but the only reason harrison is third in the league in scoring is bc he takes a lot of shots.
Hes had an average season...
Hes had an average season...
I don't know...this is a really experienced Providence team with four seniors (one 5th year senior), a fourth-year junior, two other true juniors that played big minutes since 2010-2011, and a third-year soph. They also LEAD THE COUNTRY in FT % at an absurd 78% clip. They leave nothing at the line and that makes any coach look much better. Butler and all its OT games and close losses shoots 10% worse from the line that Providence. That could easily have been 5-6 wins. Providence has the biggest, deepest, and most experienced front court in the conference and a returning 1st team all conference guard in the back court.
I just see Providence right where they should be if not a game or so behind. They were 19-5, 9-9 in the old Big East last year and returned nearly the entire roster while adding a 7-foot shot-blocker and a 6'8 future NBA SF. When Batts decided to pass on the draft, there really was no reason Providence should have won fewer than 11 games in conference. You can definitely do worse than replacing a soph PG who didn't put up big stats with a 1st team all conference guard--which allows another shooter to be put on the floor.
Austin was really just a cherry on top of the Sundae. Nobody shed a tear when Lavin failed to get Sampson-Garrett-Pelle eligible and lost Nuri after a month. Dunn is a tough loss, but the reality is he has never performed up to his lofty expectations. He averaged only 5.7 points and 3.2 assists ins 27 mpg last year and was only averaging 3.8 and 5.0 with 3.5 turnovers and no threes (less than 25% for his career) in 26.5 mpg through four games this year. Cotton is actually dishing out more assists than Dunn this year or last (5.9). It also allows Providence to put a better shooter, 6'5 soph Josh Fortune, on the floor. Fortune is shooting over 35% with 4.5 attempts per game.
Moose
Well-known member
DSR has Starks. Both are averaging 17 ppg.
Harrison has Karr with 5 less ppg.
When Harrison is off (Xavier, @Nova, 2nd half DePaul) there is no Starks to step up which leads to more shots, lower FG% and a fan base complaining about our leading scorer shooting 50% from the field in a game we barely beat DePaul.
MBoutchatski
Member
Harrison has done his fair share of forcing shots, and its not due to lack of complimentary pieces. Hes in a bad habit of looking to draw a foul almost everytime he drives.
1-12 vs xavier followed by 50% vs. depaul is a microcosm of his season. Has disappeared more often than not in the big spot/game
There have been a few games where he's taken the big shot or demanded the ball down the stretch so he could go to the foul line and ice the game.
Who else has shown the cojones to have the ball in his hands down the stretch at crucial times? And don't say Sheed because he's even more inconsistent than DLo late in games.
Maybe it's because Lavin wants the ball in his hands, and so do I.
Moose
Well-known member
You call trying to draw a foul a bad habit? I call trying to get an 85% FT shooter to the line a pretty good idea. And if he gets bumped and turns it over its pretty much the same as wasting 30 seconds on the clock and forcing a shot which he and plenty of others on the team do. One shows up in the box score as a turnover, the other shows up as just a bad missed shot.
It IS due to complementary pieces. Why is it so hard to see that? Whether its Lavin realizing he doesnt have another option or the team deferring to him its crystal clear that he is the only legit threat and on days he is off there is no Starks to pick him up. It's not Karr. It's not Jordan. It's not Sanchez. Its' not Phil. It's not Dom. It's not Chris.