Attendance

This has 20 pages by tipoff in the bag for Sir Eric
It might be 50 pages if we all post our subway stories 😂I passed out once in college after drinking too much at an MSG event and woke up shivering in subway train yard with 3 other passed out college kids.

I guess the engineer thought “I don’t paid enough to deal with this” and just went home. And now I post about Jenkins lacking awareness.
 
Wow! You guys are making me feel ashamed of my 5 to 10 live games a year average. You two are certainly part of the "solution". Several years back there was a Marquette game at the Garden canceled for 2 1/2 feet of snow. It was played the next day at Alumni with about 50 fans and I went. Is that the one you missed?
No, I made it through that. I don't drive, but the buses were running decently enough the next day.

Mullin's second or third year, I missed a game (an early season, non-conference softy), due to previous plans (outside of NYC). To be fair, it's easy for me. They are my father's season tickets, and he very generously lets me use one of them for nothing. If that weren't the case, I'd sit out a lot more games.
 
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That's an excellent record that probably is unrivaled by anybody. "If you’re not part of the solution...you’re part of the problem."
Not to toot my own horn but I don't think I've missed any home games in the last since whenever ( since I was a student in the early 70s)...except for COVID year, my brother's 40th birthday and two open heart surgeries. It's easy living in Forest Hills and when I was working in Midtown. People who know me here can attest to my craziness.

Now I have to go pat myself on the back and collect my $2.75 for the ride on the subway...:)
 
No, I made it through that. I don't drive, but the buses were running decently enough the next day.

Mullin's second or third year, I missed a game (an early season, non-conference softy), due to previous plans (outside of NYC). To be fair, it's easy for me. They are my father's season tickets, and he very generously lets me use one of them for nothing. If that weren't the case, I'd sit out a lot more games.
Kudos to you. I feel like even if I had season tickets during that first mullin season I would’ve still tapped out and passed on some of those games LOL
 
I think we land at 12K-14k, which ain't bad all things considered. We got one big W this season, and we're not playing a marquee team. Let's get a few more Ws under our belt and I'm confident we'll get bigger turn outs moving forward.
12-14k. Highly unlikely as of sunday given prior game sales week of game.
You are aware that the United States has the highest incarceration rate in the world, right?
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

You're probably excluding those cultures that would execute for stealing or at least cut off the offending limb. It decreases recidivism.
 
It's a little harder to tell at MSG, but at cozy CA there are a lot of faces that you see constantly, year after year. There really is a hardcore bunch of what I will call attendees, so as not to take a swipe at other fans.
That was one of the fun things I used to do during my 39 years there. Got to know many of the fans near the bench both at Alumni Hall and The Garden as well as in the pregame social before tip off in Taffner. Always tried to put names with faces (especially the many Red White members) and I tried to say hi to many during warmups both in the stands and court side. Now watching on TV, I try to scan the stands and pick out the fans I got to know . It’s great to see so many familiar fans still attending. 👋
 
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Nope, I wasn't excluding any country or culture with any and every possible criminal justice policy imaginable. When I said the world I meant the whole world.
I guess you mean the number of people in prison as a percentage of the overall population, not the percentage of people charged with a crime who are convicted and imprisoned. I'll have to look into this.

Numbers mean a lot of things to different people and the former can mean we have more crime than other countries or better policing of serious crimes.

Gov. Hochul in her state of new york address this week, promised a crackdown on surge looting, which is plaguing many cities. In Buffalo last winter, stores were looted during a blizzard, and many retailers are closing stores due to heavy losses due to theft and looting.


With kids living in higher crime areas I'm more concerned with criminals not incarcerated than those incarcerated. But that's just me.

What your comment has to do with the Providence game, I don't know, but was trying to decipher what you meant.
 
Not to toot my own horn but I don't think I've missed any home games in the last since whenever ( since I was a student in the early 70s)...except for COVID year, my brother's 40th birthday and two open heart surgeries. It's easy living in Forest Hills and when I was working in Midtown. People who know me here can attest to my craziness.

Now I have to go pat myself on the back and collect my $2.75 for the ride on the subway...:)
I know there are a lot of diehards on here but going to almost every single game for decades impresses me. Kudos to you guys who are the heart and soul of the program. Unfortunately I'm mired in a beyond my control attendance slump (health problem but I'll be fine) and haven't been to one since BC. Plan on returning late January to see this improving product live.
 
I find it very ironic that the people talking about how terrible the city is + nostalgic for older times are literally talking about how they were robbed *literally* during those very times.
Show me one person on this thread/topic who acted "nostalgic for older times"? Clearly you either completely missed the point, or chose to cherry pick my comments and NCJs comments to fit your arquement.

Let me be clear: Things were sh_ _ty back then, but they're much worse now in terms of deranged people and violent criminals walking the streets, and the increased odds of being the victim of a violent attack. We all know why this is.

Things were much better 20-25 years ago then they were in the 70s, 80s and early 90s, and most certainly much better then they are now, and we all know why that was as well.

Nothing will change(I'll never say never) because there is no desire and no plan to change it. "Add more bike lanes and trees and that will solve everything! ". Which is exactly why I got the F out of the city I love, and never looked back.
 
Looks like Zach takes my position on attendance:

Good article.

Interestingly he only notes the $35 cost on secondary market and $15 student tickets but not regular price range.

Buying secondary will help with warm body hopefully cheering in seat but does it count as an additional sale for reported attendance figures?

Think he and school are missing the reality of the current economic environment that was not as hard on many pre-covid.
 
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I think that's everyone's position.
I didn't get that from pushback I've gotten from "the time is now" and not after we dance or sit on top of big east or prove more. Not going to rehash this and won't respond but reality is most of big east sells out their home games and we don't. Even CA "sellouts" have plenty - way too many - empty seats. A packed garden with our own fans gives us a much better chance to win.

Let's have lunch soon.
 
I didn't get that from pushback I've gotten from "the time is now" and not after we dance or sit on top of big east or prove more. Not going to rehash this and won't respond but reality is most of big east sells out their home games and we don't. Even CA "sellouts" have plenty - way too many - empty seats. A packed garden with our own fans gives us a much better chance to win.

Let's have lunch soon.
No one is argueing that point with you/Zach, but Rome wasn't built in a day. We are gaining momentum game by game and I'm certain that the we'll see the results soon enough. I still say that if we pull in 12K+ tonight it's a successful night.
 
I didn't get that from pushback I've gotten from "the time is now" and not after we dance or sit on top of big east or prove more. Not going to rehash this and won't respond but reality is most of big east sells out their home games and we don't. Even CA "sellouts" have plenty - way too many - empty seats. A packed garden with our own fans gives us a much better chance to win.

Let's have lunch soon.
Unfortunately it’s still gonna take time to create that buzz that brings new people into the fray.
 
Never going to pack MSG with just diehard SJU fans. Never have and likely never will.

As has been mentioned before,
it's a combination of SJU fans, opposing team fans and NY college basketball fans(who will almost all root for SJU). No matter how much we bitch and moan, and no matter what Zach or anyone else writes about it(not that it hurts), the NY college basketball fans will turn out en mass when the buzz is sufficient.

Patience folks, you don't erase 20+ years of ineptitude overnight.
 
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