Attendance

[beast of the east]

The vibe at CA before the game was great.  After game was 5x that.

Students are buying in  quickly.   One if the friends I brought to providence game has bought tix since then.   

I spent time with old friends from  my former parish pre game.  Grandfather, father, and son.  It was the 5 year old son's first sju game.   All were decked out in sju gear.   It brought me back to me bringing my own kids at that age.  I suspect we have our newest fan on board now after big win


 

 

[monte]

Watching Texas Tech play at Texas. Crowd is 50/50 at most. TT about to win and crowd going nuts. Reality is, when you have teams in close proximity,
often times there is a large visiting team contingent. Unless you're talking about Duke. We have Nova and UCONN who bring a large contingent to MSG. In prior years there was Cuse. The solution IMO is not to bail on MSG, but to put a better product on the court and get more of our fans in the seats. 

 

[Alex9045]

Watching Texas Tech play at Texas. Crowd is 50/50 at most. TT about to win and crowd going nuts. Reality is, when you have teams in close proximity,
often times there is a large visiting team contingent. Unless you're talking about Duke. We have Nova and UCONN who bring a large contingent to MSG. In prior years there was Cuse. The solution IMO is not to bail on MSG, but to put a better product on the court and get more of our fans in the seats. 

This was a unique situation being that Beard bolted Tech for Texas. TT fans got a hold of a special code needed to purchase tickets and bought the entire upper bowl. This likely won't happen again.

 

[room112]

Watching Texas Tech play at Texas. Crowd is 50/50 at most. TT about to win and crowd going nuts. Reality is, when you have teams in close proximity,
often times there is a large visiting team contingent. Unless you're talking about Duke. We have Nova and UCONN who bring a large contingent to MSG. In prior years there was Cuse. The solution IMO is not to bail on MSG, but to put a better product on the court and get more of our fans in the seats. 

Don't forget that both UConn and Villanova have a decent sized alumni base who work/live in NYC. I can tell you first hand there is a UCOnn NYC Alumni chapter who do events here.

 

[beast of the east]

Watching Texas Tech play at Texas. Crowd is 50/50 at most. TT about to win and crowd going nuts. Reality is, when you have teams in close proximity,
often times there is a large visiting team contingent. Unless you're talking about Duke. We have Nova and UCONN who bring a large contingent to MSG. In prior years there was Cuse. The solution IMO is not to bail on MSG, but to put a better product on the court and get more of our fans in the seats. 

Don't forget that both UConn and Villanova have a decent sized alumni base who work/live in NYC. I can tell you first hand there is a UCOnn NYC Alumni chapter who do events here.

That's true of just about every school in the northeast.

We have 170,000 alumni. Without uconn and villanova fans buying tickets, we could play all games at ca.
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[beast of the east]

Watching Texas Tech play at Texas. Crowd is 50/50 at most. TT about to win and crowd going nuts. Reality is, when you have teams in close proximity,
often times there is a large visiting team contingent. Unless you're talking about Duke. We have Nova and UCONN who bring a large contingent to MSG. In prior years there was Cuse. The solution IMO is not to bail on MSG, but to put a better product on the court and get more of our fans in the seats. 

Don't forget that both UConn and Villanova have a decent sized alumni base who work/live in NYC. I can tell you first hand there is a UCOnn NYC Alumni chapter who do events here.

There are likely hundreds of colleges that have a NYC chapter but I get your point.   I know there are many, but I do know Harvard has a building, called the Harvard Club, with meeting, lounge, bar, and banquet space.   About 5 years ago, Villanova established a permanent physical location for alums, also called the Villanova Club - their web page says they have 11,000 alums in NYC area

[URL]https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/advancement/alumni/connect/Club_of_New_York_City.html[/URL]

It would be nice if SJU established such a space.

 

[stjohnnie75]

Not sure if things have changed, but when I worked in the Athletics department in the early 2000s we did a ton of research looking at how other schools handled “free” student tickets to basketball games.

What we found out was that most universities would charge every student a $100-$300 entertainment fee with tuition. The universities would then offer “free” tickets given away in a lottery format or students would accumulate points by attending other sporting events like tennis or soccer.

SJU President at the time did not want to do the same and instead felt students should be offered discounted ticket prices if they wanted to attend basketball games.

 

[beast of the east]

Not sure if things have changed, but when I worked in the Athletics department in the early 2000s we did a ton of research looking at how other schools handled “free” student tickets to basketball games.

What we found out was that most universities would charge every student a $100-$300 entertainment fee with tuition. The universities would then offer “free” tickets given away in a lottery format or students would accumulate points by attending other sporting events like tennis or soccer.

SJU President at the time did not want to do the same and instead felt students should be offered discounted ticket prices if they wanted to attend basketball games.

Very nice post. I'm going to correct you slightly in that that fee would get you potential access to all college sports, not just basketball.

With 15,000 undergraduate students at $300 per student would generate $4.5 million annually.

Many schools do this and you're correct, you are awarded points per game attended. The lower the demand for that game the more points awarded. Students with more points get higher priority access to high demand games.

Right now our task is to get as many students to home games as possible, even at a cost of promotions and free food.

 

[RedStormNC]

Published attendance for White Out was 4,542.

 

[Section3]

Published attendance for White Out was 4,542.

much more than that. Results aside, great night at CA

 

[JohnnyFan]

Published attendance for White Out was 4,542.

Having been the tonight, that seems low.

 

[monte]

Interesting article about UCONN playing less games in Hartford and more at Gampel;

[URL]https://www.ctinsider.com/ucon...e-XL-Center-is-set-to-16931142.php?utm_source[/URL]=marketing&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=traffic&utm_content=Expansion&fbclid=IwAR0ZwTn8Iz3sWPIIxs5g284q6_ntVXFfeHb0Z_7xUfB_vRrZDc5Rp3OcHLE

 

[beast of the east]

Villanova only plays 3 games in Philadelphia, the rest at the Pavillion where they have a marked home court advantage.   They could sell out the Wells Fargo arena for more than 3 games for certain.    

 

[beast of the east]

With the air out of the balloon in terms of NCAA hopes, last night's attendance could have been abysmal.

It wasn't.

More students were there last night than were in attendance prior to the athletic department's successful efforts to engage them, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BREAK WEEK.

Fans showed the same support as they have over the past few weeks when CA was a loud, boisterous, authentic home court advantage.   The pre game food was provided by Butcher Block BBQ, thanks to an  Wednesday dispensation by Father Rock. 

Marcus Hatten was scheduled to be the pregame RW speaker, but arrived too late.   He was warmly welcomed by the crowd, and spent the night taking photographs with fans, chatting, and signing autographs.   My guest took a picture with him, I tapped him on the should and smiled, "Welcome home."

CMA pulled out Julian so he could get an ovation in the past minute, but the PA announcer dropped the ball and didn't announce that a sub was in for Julian.   Many in the crowd, myself included, were already on their feet applauding, but if the announcement was made, would have gotten an appropriate huge ovation.

Also, the day before was accepted student day.   The school offered accepted students free tickets for themselves and their parents.   250 signed up for that.


 

 

[Knight]

ESPN reported Attendance: 4,352 vs. Xavier, 78% full.

 

[ManhattAn1]

Beast-   do you see the scheduling between MSG and CA changing next year. Maybe only 2-3 games at MSG?

also, the MSG announcer does a few games at CA.  He is a big upgrade over the other guy who normally does CA games.  You need to announce Julian is coming out- bad job

 

[beast of the east]

Beast-   do you see the scheduling between MSG and CA changing next year. Maybe only 2-3 games at MSG?

also, the MSG announcer does a few games at CA.  He is a big upgrade over the other guy who normally does CA games.  You need to announce Julian is coming out- bad job

I believe that MSG will always be a second home for us, and is a part of our NY identity.    I think with that being said, we will take a good hard look at our potential to draw at the Garden based on how strong our team is and how well fans have supported us at MSG in 2021-2022 and 2019-2020.    It's aggravating that UCONN and Villanova draw well, but become neutral court games because their fans show up.  However, both of those schools make the best business case to play at the garden even if competitively it puts us at a disadvantage.

Personally, if we are only drawing 6K at the Garden, it makes no sense to play there.   When/if the fans return, we can expand to 6 or more games at the Garden.    

 

[19854ever]

beast is ubs a factor at all for next year? Or was the Kansas game a one and done experiment? 

 

[beast of the east]

beast is ubs a factor at all for next year? Or was the Kansas game a one and done experiment? 

I believe we will play at least one game there next season and in future seasons. As our attendance improves there is the potential to move more games there.

 

[Section3]

With the air out of the balloon in terms of NCAA hopes, last night's attendance could have been abysmal.

It wasn't.

More students were there last night than were in attendance prior to the athletic department's successful efforts to engage them, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BREAK WEEK.

Fans showed the same support as they have over the past few weeks when CA was a loud, boisterous, authentic home court advantage.   The pre game food was provided by Butcher Block BBQ, thanks to an  Wednesday dispensation by Father Rock. 

Marcus Hatten was scheduled to be the pregame RW speaker, but arrived too late.   He was warmly welcomed by the crowd, and spent the night taking photographs with fans, chatting, and signing autographs.   My guest took a picture with him, I tapped him on the should and smiled, "Welcome home."

CMA pulled out Julian so he could get an ovation in the past minute, but the PA announcer dropped the ball and didn't announce that a sub was in for Julian.   Many in the crowd, myself included, were already on their feet applauding, but if the announcement was made, would have gotten an appropriate huge ovation.

Also, the day before was accepted student day.   The school offered accepted students free tickets for themselves and their parents.   250 signed up for that.



 

It was a great night with an energized and increasingly younger crowd