Assistant

 Darrick Martin trivia

1. Coach Martin Finished his career in 1992 ranked first in UCLA basketball history In both assists (636) and steals (179).

2. Martin was a member of the Harlem Globetrotters In 2003.
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Sorry, that's wrong. Darrick was SECOND in both categories to Pooh Richardson, whom he'd played alongside as a freshman starter during Pooh's senior year. Pooh had 833 career assists, and 189 career steals...

Also, needs to be noted that UCLA didn't officially keep Assists records till the 1974 season, steals until the 1979 season, nor Blocked Shots until the 1978 season.

So All American guards like Walt Hazzard, Gail Goodrich, Mike Warren, Lucius Allen, Henry Bibby, and Greg Lee, who may well have had more assists than Darrick, aren't counted. And Defensive players like Keith Erickson, Keith Wilkes, Marques Johnson and all of the aforementioned guards aren't on the Steals lists. And older stars like Don Barksdale and Jackie Robinson (yes, THAT Jackie Robinson - he led the PCAA conference in scoring for two seasons and dominated defensively) aren't on the lists at all. And it's why Jelani McCoy is their "All Time Leading Shot blocker" with 188 in his career, at a school where Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, and Willie Naulls likely had more than that number in a single season....

A bit of NBA trivia - did you know that 5 of the top 11 shot blockers in NBA history are from either Georgetown or UCLA? - Motumbo #2, Ewing #6, Mouring #11 for G'Town, and Kareem #3, Mark Eaton #4 for UCLA. Of course, the NBA didn't start counting blocks till the 1974 season, so the likely all time best - Russell & Chamberlain - have zeros next to their names. Of the listed leaders, all but Kareem played their entire careers after they strated counting. Kareem lost 4 seasons of blocks from his career total (the first 4 seasons they DID count them, he averaged 280 a year - so its likely he actually blocked another 1,100 shots which would have put him well ahead of the the listed leaders (but still likley well behind the REAL leaders like Russ and Wilt).... 
 
 Darrick Martin trivia

1. Coach Martin Finished his career in 1992 ranked first in UCLA basketball history In both assists (636) and steals (179).

2. Martin was a member of the Harlem Globetrotters In 2003.
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Sorry, that's wrong. Darrick was SECOND in both categories to Pooh Richardson, whom he'd played alongside as a freshman starter during Pooh's senior year. Pooh had 833 career assists, and 189 career steals...

Also, needs to be noted that UCLA didn't officially keep Assists records till the 1974 season, steals until the 1979 season, nor Blocked Shots until the 1978 season.

So All American guards like Walt Hazzard, Gail Goodrich, Mike Warren, Lucius Allen, Henry Bibby, and Greg Lee, who may well have had more assists than Darrick, aren't counted. And Defensive players like Keith Erickson, Keith Wilkes, Marques Johnson and all of the aforementioned guards aren't on the Steals lists. And older stars like Don Barksdale and Jackie Robinson (yes, THAT Jackie Robinson - he led the PCAA conference in scoring for two seasons and dominated defensively) aren't on the lists at all. And it's why Jelani McCoy is their "All Time Leading Shot blocker" with 188 in his career, at a school where Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, and Willie Naulls likely had more than that number in a single season....

A bit of NBA trivia - did you know that 5 of the top 11 shot blockers in NBA history are from either Georgetown or UCLA? - Motumbo #2, Ewing #6, Mouring #11 for G'Town, and Kareem #3, Mark Eaton #4 for UCLA. Of course, the NBA didn't start counting blocks till the 1974 season, so the likely all time best - Russell & Chamberlain - have zeros next to their names. Of the listed leaders, all but Kareem played their entire careers after they strated counting. Kareem lost 4 seasons of blocks from his career total (the first 4 seasons they DID count them, he averaged 280 a year - so its likely he actually blocked another 1,100 shots which would have put him well ahead of the the listed leaders (but still likley well behind the REAL leaders like Russ and Wilt).... 
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  CR, What do you think of Martin as assistant coach?
 
 Darrick Martin trivia

1. Coach Martin Finished his career in 1992 ranked first in UCLA basketball history In both assists (636) and steals (179).

2. Martin was a member of the Harlem Globetrotters In 2003.
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Sorry, that's wrong. Darrick was SECOND in both categories to Pooh Richardson, whom he'd played alongside as a freshman starter during Pooh's senior year. Pooh had 833 career assists, and 189 career steals...

Also, needs to be noted that UCLA didn't officially keep Assists records till the 1974 season, steals until the 1979 season, nor Blocked Shots until the 1978 season.

So All American guards like Walt Hazzard, Gail Goodrich, Mike Warren, Lucius Allen, Henry Bibby, and Greg Lee, who may well have had more assists than Darrick, aren't counted. And Defensive players like Keith Erickson, Keith Wilkes, Marques Johnson and all of the aforementioned guards aren't on the Steals lists. And older stars like Don Barksdale and Jackie Robinson (yes, THAT Jackie Robinson - he led the PCAA conference in scoring for two seasons and dominated defensively) aren't on the lists at all. And it's why Jelani McCoy is their "All Time Leading Shot blocker" with 188 in his career, at a school where Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, and Willie Naulls likely had more than that number in a single season....

A bit of NBA trivia - did you know that 5 of the top 11 shot blockers in NBA history are from either Georgetown or UCLA? - Motumbo #2, Ewing #6, Mouring #11 for G'Town, and Kareem #3, Mark Eaton #4 for UCLA. Of course, the NBA didn't start counting blocks till the 1974 season, so the likely all time best - Russell & Chamberlain - have zeros next to their names. Of the listed leaders, all but Kareem played their entire careers after they strated counting. Kareem lost 4 seasons of blocks from his career total (the first 4 seasons they DID count them, he averaged 280 a year - so its likely he actually blocked another 1,100 shots which would have put him well ahead of the the listed leaders (but still likley well behind the REAL leaders like Russ and Wilt).... 
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  CR, What do you think of Martin as assistant coach?
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 Apologies if I missed the posts but I went back to where he was officially announced and didn't see the normal 'crew' of people i like reading their input.. Moose/MCN/MJDinkins/CRGreen especially seeing a UCLA guy. I know you provided stats on his playing days but anything else? Good choice?
 
 Darrick Martin trivia

1. Coach Martin Finished his career in 1992 ranked first in UCLA basketball history In both assists (636) and steals (179).

2. Martin was a member of the Harlem Globetrotters In 2003.
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Sorry, that's wrong. Darrick was SECOND in both categories to Pooh Richardson, whom he'd played alongside as a freshman starter during Pooh's senior year. Pooh had 833 career assists, and 189 career steals...

Also, needs to be noted that UCLA didn't officially keep Assists records till the 1974 season, steals until the 1979 season, nor Blocked Shots until the 1978 season.

So All American guards like Walt Hazzard, Gail Goodrich, Mike Warren, Lucius Allen, Henry Bibby, and Greg Lee, who may well have had more assists than Darrick, aren't counted. And Defensive players like Keith Erickson, Keith Wilkes, Marques Johnson and all of the aforementioned guards aren't on the Steals lists. And older stars like Don Barksdale and Jackie Robinson (yes, THAT Jackie Robinson - he led the PCAA conference in scoring for two seasons and dominated defensively) aren't on the lists at all. And it's why Jelani McCoy is their "All Time Leading Shot blocker" with 188 in his career, at a school where Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, and Willie Naulls likely had more than that number in a single season....

A bit of NBA trivia - did you know that 5 of the top 11 shot blockers in NBA history are from either Georgetown or UCLA? - Motumbo #2, Ewing #6, Mouring #11 for G'Town, and Kareem #3, Mark Eaton #4 for UCLA. Of course, the NBA didn't start counting blocks till the 1974 season, so the likely all time best - Russell & Chamberlain - have zeros next to their names. Of the listed leaders, all but Kareem played their entire careers after they strated counting. Kareem lost 4 seasons of blocks from his career total (the first 4 seasons they DID count them, he averaged 280 a year - so its likely he actually blocked another 1,100 shots which would have put him well ahead of the the listed leaders (but still likley well behind the REAL leaders like Russ and Wilt).... 
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  CR, What do you think of Martin as assistant coach?
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 Apologies if I missed the posts but I went back to where he was officially announced and didn't see the normal 'crew' of people i like reading their input.. Moose/MCN/MJDinkins/CRGreen especially seeing a UCLA guy. I know you provided stats on his playing days but anything else? Good choice?
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I think he's a terrific choice for an assistant - just not sure if he's a terrific choice to replace Dunlap. But then again, it's fairly apparent that's NOT what he's going to do - he's going to essentially replace either Chiles or Hines, and one of THEM will replace Dunlap. And 13 years NBA experience, played in the last decade in Sacrmento, Dallas, Minnesota, Los Angeles and Toronto - so kids all over the country will remember him as an active NBA player - that's a heck of a recruiting advantage. As I posted elsewhere, the main reason his career lasted so long is that it was extended as he served as essentially an extra assistant coach, mentoring young PGs in the league. He's a former McD All American - he was a top 10 recruit out of high school - that's another + with recruits.

He was never super fast, or super quick, or the greatest shooter. Most 5'11 guards DON'T have particularly long NBA careers - those that do usually have some of those characteristics that he didn't have. He made it and stayed because he was very smart, and very tough. Makes few mistakes, and learns from those few very quickly. He knows basketball inside and out. He has a HUGE array of experience, and exposure to a tremendous variety of coaching approaches, philosophies, and stratigies - He's been coached by Harrick, Lavin, Gottfried, and Romar in college. By BIll Fitch, Chris Ford, Rick Adelman, Don Nelson, Flip Saunders, Mike Dunleavy and Sam Mitchell in the NBA (and those are jsut the HEAD coaches)....

Only similar player I might have liked more getting this gig would have been Earl Watson - but at only 33 years old, I think Earl's still got a couple of million dollar NBA paychecks left to earn before heading into coaching (he made $2mil with Utah in 2011-12).
 
 Darrick Martin trivia

1. Coach Martin Finished his career in 1992 ranked first in UCLA basketball history In both assists (636) and steals (179).

2. Martin was a member of the Harlem Globetrotters In 2003.
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Sorry, that's wrong. Darrick was SECOND in both categories to Pooh Richardson, whom he'd played alongside as a freshman starter during Pooh's senior year. Pooh had 833 career assists, and 189 career steals...

Also, needs to be noted that UCLA didn't officially keep Assists records till the 1974 season, steals until the 1979 season, nor Blocked Shots until the 1978 season.

So All American guards like Walt Hazzard, Gail Goodrich, Mike Warren, Lucius Allen, Henry Bibby, and Greg Lee, who may well have had more assists than Darrick, aren't counted. And Defensive players like Keith Erickson, Keith Wilkes, Marques Johnson and all of the aforementioned guards aren't on the Steals lists. And older stars like Don Barksdale and Jackie Robinson (yes, THAT Jackie Robinson - he led the PCAA conference in scoring for two seasons and dominated defensively) aren't on the lists at all. And it's why Jelani McCoy is their "All Time Leading Shot blocker" with 188 in his career, at a school where Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, and Willie Naulls likely had more than that number in a single season....

A bit of NBA trivia - did you know that 5 of the top 11 shot blockers in NBA history are from either Georgetown or UCLA? - Motumbo #2, Ewing #6, Mouring #11 for G'Town, and Kareem #3, Mark Eaton #4 for UCLA. Of course, the NBA didn't start counting blocks till the 1974 season, so the likely all time best - Russell & Chamberlain - have zeros next to their names. Of the listed leaders, all but Kareem played their entire careers after they strated counting. Kareem lost 4 seasons of blocks from his career total (the first 4 seasons they DID count them, he averaged 280 a year - so its likely he actually blocked another 1,100 shots which would have put him well ahead of the the listed leaders (but still likley well behind the REAL leaders like Russ and Wilt).... 
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  CR, What do you think of Martin as assistant coach?
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 Apologies if I missed the posts but I went back to where he was officially announced and didn't see the normal 'crew' of people i like reading their input.. Moose/MCN/MJDinkins/CRGreen especially seeing a UCLA guy. I know you provided stats on his playing days but anything else? Good choice?
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Don't really know a lot about him. He has the NBA connections which Lavin is touting to players.

As for selecting him, I'm personally fine with it. There were worse options out there IMO.
 
 CRGreen wrote:
"I think he's a terrific choice for an assistant - just not sure if he's a terrific choice to replace Dunlap. But then again, it's fairly apparent that's NOT what he's going to do - he's going to essentially replace either Chiles or Hines, and one of THEM will replace Dunlap."

CR, great to see you posting more here on redmen.com instead of on JohnnyComeLately Jungle. Hope you are doing well!

Personally, I prefer Tony to get the nod if they were elevated since Tony has established ties in the northeast and is a bright Columbia grad with experience as an assistant coach on the college level. I am doubtful Rico stays at SJ beyond this year. He is now in a bi-coastal marriage with Tichina Arnold and his stepdaughter attends 3rd grade in Los Angeles. Just a hunch.
 
 Darrick Martin trivia

1. Coach Martin Finished his career in 1992 ranked first in UCLA basketball history In both assists (636) and steals (179).

2. Martin was a member of the Harlem Globetrotters In 2003.
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Sorry, that's wrong. Darrick was SECOND in both categories to Pooh Richardson, whom he'd played alongside as a freshman starter during Pooh's senior year. Pooh had 833 career assists, and 189 career steals...

Also, needs to be noted that UCLA didn't officially keep Assists records till the 1974 season, steals until the 1979 season, nor Blocked Shots until the 1978 season.

So All American guards like Walt Hazzard, Gail Goodrich, Mike Warren, Lucius Allen, Henry Bibby, and Greg Lee, who may well have had more assists than Darrick, aren't counted. And Defensive players like Keith Erickson, Keith Wilkes, Marques Johnson and all of the aforementioned guards aren't on the Steals lists. And older stars like Don Barksdale and Jackie Robinson (yes, THAT Jackie Robinson - he led the PCAA conference in scoring for two seasons and dominated defensively) aren't on the lists at all. And it's why Jelani McCoy is their "All Time Leading Shot blocker" with 188 in his career, at a school where Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton, and Willie Naulls likely had more than that number in a single season....

A bit of NBA trivia - did you know that 5 of the top 11 shot blockers in NBA history are from either Georgetown or UCLA? - Motumbo #2, Ewing #6, Mouring #11 for G'Town, and Kareem #3, Mark Eaton #4 for UCLA. Of course, the NBA didn't start counting blocks till the 1974 season, so the likely all time best - Russell & Chamberlain - have zeros next to their names. Of the listed leaders, all but Kareem played their entire careers after they strated counting. Kareem lost 4 seasons of blocks from his career total (the first 4 seasons they DID count them, he averaged 280 a year - so its likely he actually blocked another 1,100 shots which would have put him well ahead of the the listed leaders (but still likley well behind the REAL leaders like Russ and Wilt).... 
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  CR, What do you think of Martin as assistant coach?
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 Apologies if I missed the posts but I went back to where he was officially announced and didn't see the normal 'crew' of people i like reading their input.. Moose/MCN/MJDinkins/CRGreen especially seeing a UCLA guy. I know you provided stats on his playing days but anything else? Good choice?
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Don't really know a lot about him. He has the NBA connections which Lavin is touting to players.

As for selecting him, I'm personally fine with it. There were worse options out there IMO.
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Likewise. I don't particularly know enough about him from a coaching standpoint. I vividly remember recording many of the NCAA Tournament games from March '90. I can recall Brent Musburger raving about then-sophomore Darrick Martin in the UCLA/Duke "Sweet 16" matchup. That is what I remember about Martin.

I, like Moose, do not have a problem with the hire. I'm sure his NBA contacts could pay off in time. Not to mention, he probably has connections and ties to the west coast.
 
 What were HInes ad Chiles promoted to? They have new titles?
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My guess is they will be co-associate head coaches.
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 Moose, who do you think take on much, if any, of the in game management that Dunlap did? Do you think that portion was overrated?
 
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