Is this a joke?
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Is this a joke?
BTW just as an interesting sidebar the two finalists for the Fordham job in 2021 were...you guessed it Kyle Neptune and Shaheen Holloway.
Boo Harvey
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Sorry, I’m not following. How are the Kentucky and Seton Hall jobs analogous?
There whole NIL situation is a mess. They were so unprepared and Willard so it coming and jumped at the Maryland job.
BTW-Rick was a big reason he got the Maryland job. Maryland wanted Pitino, UA was ready to write him a blank check. He said no but mentioned Willard.
Who knows what could have happened if Holloway was hand picked by a hall of fame icon.
I keep reading that their NIL is terrible… but haven’t ever seen #s… what is “terrible” NIL for a BE roster? <2mm? <3mm?…
You can still be better than this though. I don't expect him to be at the top of the league this year with what everyone says is the NIL situation.
You can get upset by a low major, sure. You can't lose to Fordham at home, Monmouth at home (badly) AND Hofstra on a neutral floor. Not with how those teams are this year. And then follow that with an abysmal Big East season (if they were better in the league, would be a different story even with those losses).
And supposedly he's a "defense first" coach. They may not have many skilled players, but they certainly have high-major athletes. A number of guys that were 4 and even 5 star recruits not long ago. Guys who were at high majors or highly touted out of prep. You'd think the defense would be better coached by a guy with a defensive reputation (at least in some minds) by virtue of having a bunch of long, athletic kids. But their D has been abominable.
Correct. I don't know for sure but you and others seem to be sure of yourself.
I am saying that Shah might want to find himself a job WITH NIL. Calipari went to Arkansas because they have ample NIL. His run at Kentucky had run its course.
They will spend to win. Some here are saying Shah is a good young Coach with no NIL to work with. So head to a school who has it.
Maybe, maybe not
I think it needs to be a combination of things.
1)Obviously SHU needs to give him some more help.
2)But Shaheen needs to adjust his coaching and do a much better job of talent evaluation even with limited NIL.
The good news for him is he is in no danger of losing his job even with bad on court results anytime soon. SHU has no other option,
L J S A
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Shaq was discussing it on his podcast with Vito Corleone and Rocky Balboa.
Well again you were certain you would take him over Neptune not me. If you are not certain Holloway's results at Nova would be significnatly better and he is 1-4 vs Neptune head to head maybe you should rethibnk your original position.
My position is Neptune has failed miserably so far with superior resources than Holloway has had in South Orange.
Also you dismiss his elite 8 run at St. Peter’s which has the worst facilities in the MAAC. Rose Hill Gym is the Taj Mahal compared to the Yantelli Center in Jersey City. One can say Neptune's16-16 year at Fordham was a fluke. Sounds like someone is being biased and it’s not me.
Turgeon left in early Dec. Williard's name was being floated and on their radar for months before along w/ Pitino, Enfield, Cooley, Pope etc.
I dsimiss it because facilities have nothing to do with the run, they go ta bid in the MAAC you are acting like they won the SEC conference with inferiour facilities. They won the MAAC Tourney and then won3 games in a row. Terrific run but what does that have to do with facilities?
Everytime a small school beats a big school (see UMBC and FDU beating Virginia and Purdue) UMBC beating Virginia is a remarkable accomplishment because of the facilities they have vs UVA...LOL
And your point about Neptune not doing enough is 100% fair, that in itself does not prove Shaheen would be much better in similar situation and you seem to agree since you cannot say for sure.
L J S A
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I'm not sure Holloway's seat gets even remotely warm before 2033. That said, I'd bet my life he applies for every future BE opening.
I also wonder if he bets on himself and takes a lesser job with the aspirations of rebuilding the reputation he had not too long ago. A top mid-major might have better NIL than Seton Hall.
Near term, I think half their roster will have to be overseas kids who can't get NIL though.
I also wonder if he bets on himself and takes a lesser job with the aspirations of rebuilding the reputation he had not too long ago. A top mid-major might have better NIL than Seton Hall.
Near term, I think half their roster will have to be overseas kids who can't get NIL though.
I don't understand your point. WHat does that have to do with Pitno being the first choice passing on it and recomme nding Willard.
The fact that articles listed Willard along with 20 others as potential cancdidates after Turgeon stepped down has nothing to do with what I wrote.