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[tom in salem]

That's crazy, not at all deserved after going 0-3 in Maui. Let them make it up by winning against at least one half-decent team.

AP poll went the way of black and white television. Not sure what's worse, still publishing it or actually reading it. This appears the most accurate. First column is NET, 2nd (KPI) isKen Pom. Based these, we can all make alternate plans for March.

NCAA Teamsheet Ranks - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank

T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.

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[tom in salem]

AP poll went the way of black and white television. Not sure what's worse, still publishing it or actually reading it. This appears the most accurate. First column is NET, 2nd (KPI) isKen Pom. Based these, we can all make alternate plans for March.

NCAA Teamsheet Ranks - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank

T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.

barttorvik.com

Woops, just got in and posted this before catching up and reading today's posts. Apologies.

 

[espken]

AP poll went the way of black and white television. Not sure what's worse, still publishing it or actually reading it. This appears the most accurate. First column is NET, 2nd (KPI) isKen Pom. Based these, we can all make alternate plans for March.

NCAA Teamsheet Ranks - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank

T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.

barttorvik.com

Writers (AP) poll and Coaches poll remain the standard. Click bait rankings are just that. But rankings in December mean zero and foolish to use as a gauge for March Madness.

 

[Marillac2]

X was 26.5 pt favorite.

Tell me about it, I had the over.

 

[Marillac2]

What do you guys think our "floor" is in conference play to make the tournament?

I feel a little bit uneasy saying this, but I think *the floor* is something like this:
Seton Hall: 2-0
Providence: 2-0
DePaul: 2-0
Georgetown: 2-0
Villanova: 1-1
Xavier 1-1
Butler: 1-1
Creighton: 1-1
UConn: 1-1
Marquette: 1-1
___
14-6

I don't like the win this game lose that game approach. I put them in buckets since almost every team will win games they shouldn't and lose games they shouldn't.

9-3 against SH, Providence, DePaul, Gtown, Butler and Nova

4-4 against the big 4

 

[Mean Gene]

What do you guys think our "floor" is in conference play to make the tournament?

I feel a little bit uneasy saying this, but I think *the floor* is something like this:
Seton Hall: 2-0
Providence: 2-0
DePaul: 2-0
Georgetown: 2-0
Villanova: 1-1
Xavier 1-1
Butler: 1-1
Creighton: 1-1
UConn: 1-1
Marquette: 1-1
___

The Big East OOC results were not good. If they limited the conference to three bids last year it will even easier for them to do it again and justify it this year. We have to finish in the top 3. If 14-6 does that then that’s fine. Whatever gets us in the top 3. I think we sweep Creighton.

I don't like the win this game lose that game approach. I put them in buckets since almost every team will win games they shouldn't and lose games they shouldn't.

9-3 against SH, Providence, DePaul, Gtown, Butler and Nova

4-4 against the big 4

We have to sweep one of the big 4 and finish top 3 in the league to be assured a bid. If not we have win the Big East Tournament

 

[Marillac2]

We have to sweep one of the big 4 and finish top 3 in the league to be assured a bid. If not we have win the Big East Tournament

I don't think that's true. We are not in the same position as last year. Our fans are too nervous IMO.

 

[dk423]

I don't think that's true. We are not in the same position as last year. Our fans are too nervous IMO.

I'm more nervous about the BE providing us quality wins than our actual talent

 

[Mean Gene]

I don't think that's true. We are not in the same position as last year. Our fans are too nervous IMO.

The conference did a lot worse in their OOC games than they did last year. Its going to harder to get in from the Big East this year than it was last year

 

[Marillac2]

The conference did a lot worse in their OOC games than they did last year. Its going to harder to get in from the Big East this year than it was last year

That is only one piece of the puzzle. We also cannibalized ourselves and were weighed down by an awful DePaul.

 

[dk423]

I don't like the win this game lose that game approach. I put them in buckets since almost every team will win games they shouldn't and lose games they shouldn't.

9-3 against SH, Providence, DePaul, Gtown, Butler and Nova

4-4 against the big 4

Although this generally makes sense, you will need a third bucket for a team like Seton Hall since a loss to them wouldn't be a magnitude more devastating than a loss to Nova. I fully expect their NET to not go much higher than where it is right now. DePaul/Butler/Providence (IF Hopkins is healthy) can all end up in a better place a few months from now, but also very much not.

 

[Mean Gene]

That is only one piece of the puzzle. We also cannibalized ourselves and were weighed down by an awful DePaul.

Let’s just finish 15-5 and have it over with!!!

 

[tom in salem]

Let’s just finish 15-5 and have it over with!!!

Just don't see that happening.

 

[tom in salem]

I don't like the win this game lose that game approach. I put them in buckets since almost every team will win games they shouldn't and lose games they shouldn't.

9-3 against SH, Providence, DePaul, Gtown, Butler and Nova

4-4 against the big 4

13-7 looks like the best outcome possible which, considering we're likely a 3 bid league, is pretty sad.

 

[Mean Gene]

Just don't see that happening.

I was being facetious.

 

[paultzman]

The importance of D;

 

[vegasman2000]

Very suspicious line tomorrow Nova +3.5 vs Cincinnati.

 

[Jack Williams]

Very suspicious line tomorrow Nova +3.5 vs Cincinnati.

Cincy’s first real test of the season may have Vegas cautious, but yea I’m not sure how much of a “test” nova really is

 

[Mullins Revenge]

Top of his head will blow off then

Hurley is going to get this turned around quick. Uconn going to be running teams out of buildings very shortly. Tons of talent and shooting on that team. They just need a few more games to come together than watch out!!!

 

[vegasman2000]

Cincy’s first real test of the season may have Vegas cautious, but yea I’m not sure how much of a “test” nova really is

I sprinkled a bit just in case. Probably regret it