Anderson - is he really the guy ?
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I hear Kansas has a highly regarded assistant who is from the NYC area.usguard post=445245 said:
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The honeymoon is over for coach anderson. I think we have been pretty patient with him as well. But i dont see us making the ncaa tourney and if thats the case, this has been a failure.
Let’s face it, all we have are the glory days of this program to look back upon. We will be a mediocre program going forward. We have horrible facilities, no real homecourt advantage , a horrible on campus arena and we have an aging coach who the game has past by. Unless we get a guy like Repole or some of our big Wall Alumni to pump some real money into the program this is the reality.
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Bill Janetschek just wrote a $1 million check to upgrade facilities last year. If Repole got his way, you'd be posting about firing Hurley instead of Anderson, just like AZ state is rumbling about.Mean Gene post=445284 said:
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Last February it felt like we had so much momentum as a program.
but then, the mass exodus happened.
continuity matters. Especially in college basketball.
Even though we may be high on some of the newcomers… losing guys like Earlington and Greg set this program back… it just did
but then, the mass exodus happened.
continuity matters. Especially in college basketball.
Even though we may be high on some of the newcomers… losing guys like Earlington and Greg set this program back… it just did
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Mean Gene posted all the reasons why SJU is basically irrelevant and the problems could all have been answered with the hiring of Pitino. Instead of traveling the country to sign level 3 players 4 level players hoping to play in the pros would be knocking at SJUs door. Attendance would be up and so would donations.
SJU would have had some nasty articles written about the choice and many SJU alumni would have been upset ,although Iona didn’t run into that problem but by now I imagine the SJU alumni would be behind the hire. Lavin blew the Whitehead recruiting and the board of trustees blew the Pitino situation. If a similar situation arises I hope we have learned our lesson.
SJU would have had some nasty articles written about the choice and many SJU alumni would have been upset ,although Iona didn’t run into that problem but by now I imagine the SJU alumni would be behind the hire. Lavin blew the Whitehead recruiting and the board of trustees blew the Pitino situation. If a similar situation arises I hope we have learned our lesson.
IMO, and again this is just my opinion, what we are willing to accept from our program as fans, is much different then what the administration is willing to accept from the program. We want a team which consistently finishes at or near the top of the conference, is borderline(or better) top 25, and consistently dances. I don't think that's an unreasonable bar. The administration, OTOH, is willing to accept a team with a winning record, which consistently makes the NIT and gives them no headaches. Especially with a coach who they know is not going anywhere anytime soon. I know I'll get others on here who disagree based on what Shanley, Cragg, etc have said, but what's that old saying about talk being cheap?
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I have good information that SJU is going to hire Bernie Madoff to be their financial advisor. Our money problems will go away, and he recommends we hire Pitino.Enright post=445293 said:
I hold out hope that we get better as the season progresses as we have in CMAs first two seasons. That said the level of play is concerning as is Posh's health. They need to have him healthy by 12/20. Fitting all these new parts together has not happend hopefully it will. Mark Turgeon had the same problem and was just fired. I think that is crazy in college sports but where things are going. We can revisit this conversation in March.
This topic I think is 3-5 years too early, doesn't CMA's contract extension run through 2027? I always thought that was signed a year too early. During his first 2 seasons we had 0 NITs/NCAAs (wouldn't have made it in 2020 unless we won the BET), and season 3 isn't promising thus far. He also lost 75% of the team last year before signing the extension. He scheduled poorly for 2 years in a row now and is arrogant/condescending about his decision in doing so. Clearly it was the wrong decision, he needs an analytically-minded assistant coach to schedule going forward. "Never having a losing season" is legitimately holding the program back if it means he's going to schedule like this. I expect our NET ranking on Monday to be awful, just as it was OOC last year (and of course, no Q1/Q2 wins to make up for it).
Things can turn around quickly, but it's critical to take care of business during the rest of OOC and then start decently in Big East play. The Big East as a whole is strong this year so we can definitely make up ground, but whether we are good enough to compete is another question. One game at a time, win tomorrow and put yesterday behind us.
Things can turn around quickly, but it's critical to take care of business during the rest of OOC and then start decently in Big East play. The Big East as a whole is strong this year so we can definitely make up ground, but whether we are good enough to compete is another question. One game at a time, win tomorrow and put yesterday behind us.
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I’ve been a die hard fan for 75 years, now 87. I guessing my contract will expire before Anderson’s, but this is hard to take.
CMA is an old dog that needs to learn new tricks. His reputation as a defensive coach lacks creditability. Because of his switching man to man nobody is responsible for the guy who just scored. Not my man they must think. Nobody boxes out. Not my man. Yet we get out rebounded, yet we give open looks.
CMA full court press is not effective. We easily get beat for easy buckets.
Offense is schoolyard. Race down before they get set up. That’s it. We don’t have guys who can handle, guys who can pass, guys who can shoot if no layup is there. That’s why we have all the turnovers. Have we ever seen a set play after a time out? How about an in bounds play? They should have an end-of-gamer run at least once during the game.
Hard to believe his coaches haven’t said something… or do they like their security by keeping quiet.
CMA has 30 years experience or the same experience for 30 years. It’s not working.
I learned all this from reading REDMEN.COM.
CMA is an old dog that needs to learn new tricks. His reputation as a defensive coach lacks creditability. Because of his switching man to man nobody is responsible for the guy who just scored. Not my man they must think. Nobody boxes out. Not my man. Yet we get out rebounded, yet we give open looks.
CMA full court press is not effective. We easily get beat for easy buckets.
Offense is schoolyard. Race down before they get set up. That’s it. We don’t have guys who can handle, guys who can pass, guys who can shoot if no layup is there. That’s why we have all the turnovers. Have we ever seen a set play after a time out? How about an in bounds play? They should have an end-of-gamer run at least once during the game.
Hard to believe his coaches haven’t said something… or do they like their security by keeping quiet.
CMA has 30 years experience or the same experience for 30 years. It’s not working.
I learned all this from reading REDMEN.COM.
Guys, I was unhappy with the team's performance last night as well as the prior 2 or 3 games and also unhappy with some of the coaching moves during that time. But it seems pretty silly to be looking to dump the coach 7 games into the season after his peers voted him BE coach of the year. Or maybe that was a plot by the other coaches to get him an extension so that the Johnnies would be tied into a bad coach for several years?
NCJ
I get it..he's not going anywhere.
My intent when I started the thread(besides sheer frustration - worse than Mullin games) was more along the lines of fast forwarding, the next 2-4 years...is Anderson going to get the right guys and play at high enough level to be Top 25 or close and have high degree of confidence in making tourney.
I get it..he's not going anywhere.
My intent when I started the thread(besides sheer frustration - worse than Mullin games) was more along the lines of fast forwarding, the next 2-4 years...is Anderson going to get the right guys and play at high enough level to be Top 25 or close and have high degree of confidence in making tourney.
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RedStormNC wrote:
NCJ
I get it..he's not going anywhere.
My intent when I started the thread(besides sheer frustration - worse than Mullin games) was more along the lines of fast forwarding, the next 2-4 years...is Anderson going to get the right guys and play at high enough level to be Top 25 or close and have high degree of confidence in making tourney.
Fair question RSNC. My point is this board was pretty bullish on the answer to those questions after last season and during the off season as well. Just a little too small a sample size imho to decide otherwise. That is not to say I'm not concerned; I am very concerned but not ready to judge the quality of the new players and whether CMA can win with this bunch yet.
NCJ
I get it..he's not going anywhere.
My intent when I started the thread(besides sheer frustration - worse than Mullin games) was more along the lines of fast forwarding, the next 2-4 years...is Anderson going to get the right guys and play at high enough level to be Top 25 or close and have high degree of confidence in making tourney.
Fair question RSNC. My point is this board was pretty bullish on the answer to those questions after last season and during the off season as well. Just a little too small a sample size imho to decide otherwise. That is not to say I'm not concerned; I am very concerned but not ready to judge the quality of the new players and whether CMA can win with this bunch yet.
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Not for nuttin', but you do remember who the last SJU coach was to be named COY, and how his career turned out? lol. Having said that, calls for CMAs head are way premature.
Yes that fine Manhattan Jasper Brian Mahoney! Don't get me wrong if CMA doesn't make the Tourney with this bunch it will be an epic failure, but not ready to say they won't make it.
Not for nuttin', but you do remember who the last SJU coach was to be named COY, and how his career turned out? lol. Having said that, calls for CMAs head are way premature.
Yes that fine Manhattan Jasper Brian Mahoney! Don't get me wrong if CMA doesn't make the Tourney with this bunch it will be an epic failure, but not ready to say they won't make it.