Amir Garrett Speaks Out

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[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396552][quote="Moose" post=396551][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396549][quote="Moose" post=396548][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396546][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396545][quote="lawmanfan" post=396543]Windy, you shouldn't be reading anything into my personal views on any issue from my moderator activities.

Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).

We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.

Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.

If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.

Best and stay safe,
LMF

P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]

That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]

Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]

Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.

But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts ;)[/quote]

Good knowledge, thanks Moose will do. Now delete the Garrett thread.[/quote]

Lest you forget I'm not a moderator here[/quote]

Well, you should be damnit.[/quote]

If I was I would have created a feature similar to Twitter blocks
 
[quote="billthetruth" post=396532][quote="SJUFAN2" post=396529][quote="billthetruth" post=396527]
Good for Garrett. He is an outstanding representative of the SJU community

But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.

My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement

They should both be punished by NFL, but held to the same standard and also then given a second chance.

Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]

I largely agree with you but I don't see these as being the same thing.
Jackson posted inappropriate/racist things on social media, apparently because he doesn't know the history of those comments.
Brenaman's comments were a use of a derogatory slang word that he understood completely and thought he had said off air so it didn't matter.

I wouldn't hire Breneman but I'd consider signing Jackson if he had followed through on his promise to educate himself on the subject he was posting about.[/quote]

Noted.

But Jackson is an adult and cant hide behind i didn't know what I was posting excuse.
As Kareem Abdul Jabbar said about Jackson ignorance CAN'T be an excuse[/quote]

Its not an excuse. Nobody is suggesting that he be excused from punishment or from accepting responsibility for what he said. Just that his was a 'crime' of ignorance which he claims to want to address by educating himself. If he follows through on that, he'd certainly deserve a 2nd chance.

The announcer was just using a hateful expression which he understood and intended to voice, he just didn't want it on the air. I'm all for giving people second chances, but I'm not sure how he earns on in this situation.
 
It's great that Amir has spoken out, but this supercharged environment is not completely fair on whose career gets destroyed over comments that sometimes lean on the benign, and sometimes more malignant. Apparently the Reds announcer used the word "fag", as an off handed description of a geographical location. Alec Baldwin, enraged at a paparazzi, allegedly called him a "C--ksucking fag". There was very limited media coverage of this, but to me at least, Baldwin's words to attacked a photographer whose sexual identity he was unaware of. He beat him down with a slur that challenged the photographer's manhood, revealing that to Baldwin this guy was you know, less than a man, he was a disgusting homosexual who engages in oral sex with a man.

Of course, Baldwin was still welcomed on Saturday night live, he wasn't outcast by Hollywood for these and other outbursts, because, everyone knows Baldwin really didn't mean that. Meanwhile lesser public figures who dare utter that all lives matter, or say stupid things into a hot mic when they thought they were off air, get the full weight of being convicted for their actions with suspensions or termination.

With no record of anti-gay behavior, this guy should be chastised, and an apology should have been enough.
 
About 40 years ago, a washed up pitcher who was once a 20 game winner with the Yankees wrote a tell all book that was a revelation in a sport where players personal lives and nefarious activities were kept out of the media. We read salacious stories about idols such as Mantle. Some fans were outraged, but everyone paid attention. Prior to Bouton for the most part what athletes and broadcaster did was largely their own business and there was a code of silence so long as the behavior wasn't criminal. When it spilled over, a brawl at the Copacabana was deemed so damaging to the Yankee brand that Billy Martin, a guy who perhaps loved being a Yankee as much or more than anyone, was quickly banished for being the catalyst.

What we love most about indiscretions it the public outcry and selective condemnation of transgressors.

Politics have infected sports, and it will be that way for now and forever. To keep these threads free of discussion about the things athletes say and do, especially when anyone associated with the program is involved, is to insert a blandness that will be more destructive to this forum than to allow them to be discussed.

Imagine white bread without salt pepper mayo, butter, cold cuts, lettuce, and tomato. Yea, white bread is still okay, but really what drives discussion here is a whole lot more than FT shooting, or any other plain aspect of basketball only. Mods are hear to keep it in bounds when it approaches the danger point, but not to sanitize discussions well before it gets to that point. My two cents.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=396561]Why is this even newsworthy?
In England they believe he was referring to the cigarette capital of the world.B)[/quote]

I know you are enlightened. A faggot to my knowledge is a piece of kindling, which is why a cigarette is called a fag. Homosexuals were burned at the stake, like a faggot, which is where the phrase came from. I'm pretty sure few know that, but I bet you do.
 
Do we distinguish between big P and small p politics? This is not a small issue at the moment as there are those, both left and right. who intentionally pick inane fights so that they can discredit adversaries based on misdemeanor bias and never discuss felony truth.
 
Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.
 
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[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.
 
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[quote="fuchsia" post=396567]Do we distinguish between big P and small p politics? This is not a small issue at the moment as there are those, both left and right. who intentionally pick inane fights so that they can discredit adversaries based on misdemeanor bias and never discuss felony truth.[/quote]

That and the inevitable flame wars, is the heart of the issue. There are obvious and inescapable issues that are both sports related and political and even more that are school/education related and political. My concern is not the politics of it, but rather keeping this site civil and friendly, but also useful. Polluting threads with off topic arguments and complaining is a waste of everyone's time. When it comes to politics, a lot of people simply cannot control themselves.

While there are easy criticisms to be made, obviously some people have their own agendas and just cannot be reasoned with. The reality is that there are a diverse group, politically and otherwise, who moderate this site. We are not all right wing, left wing, but we are human. If you want to be moderated by algorithm, this is what the big mega-corporations have been spending billions trying to do for many years, and almost completely failing.

We are friendly and respectful with each other despite some of us having polar views on things. NONE of us are interested in censorship, cancelling people, infringing upon your constitutional rights, right wing/left wing dominance etc. Almost all of the complaints that get posted are by individuals who have received an extraordinary amount of patience by multiple moderators. It is also not without irony that these complaints take place within topical threads which is a further problem since you all agree by participating in this site, not to do that.

There are an infinite number of places IRL or online to attack people. This ain't it. I'd be happy not to have to deal with any moderation at all. I'd be happy to have political posts here. We've tried it multiple times. It does not work. This is a completely independent website. Like everything "local" or independent these days, it is very difficult to maintain. Partisan politics as it pertains to posting on this site, is a "pain point" that we do not have the resources to deal with in maintaining this site.

And before you criticize further, call me a nazi, infringing on your free speech etc, consider for a second that twitter, facebook, google etc have spent billions trying to moderate their platforms for many years and have been almost completely unsuccessful. In some cases with disastrous results. Other networks require you to pay for the privilege of doing what you all do here. So yeah, you can ruin redmen.com. You can thrives on conflict and cutting people down. You can make it like everywhere else. This is human nature to not appreciate good things until they are lost. The only good stuff that lasts in this world does so by some people making sacrifices and fighting the good fight.

I'm not asking members to actively fight, but just control yourself in some small ways.

See my Forum Etiquette sticky. https://redmen.com/forum/redmentalk/273959-reminder-forum-etiquette.html
 
[quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.
 
[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396573][quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.[/quote]

Respect your opinion Duke, but still think the guy does not deserved to be fired, let alone never work as a broadcaster again.
 
[quote="Monte" post=396582][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396573][quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.[/quote]

Respect your opinion Duke, but still think the guy does not deserved to be fired, let alone never work as a broadcaster again.[/quote]

I listened to the quote in question and he not only said it but he said it with disdain. Tom Brennaman should be hired by a company that does not have a problem being associated with homophobia and anti-gay positions.

If he loses his job it's just because his present employers don't fit that description. It could be a moral stance or it could be an economic decision because hiring him and presenting him to the nation tarnishes their brand. That's up to them.
 
[quote="Monte" post=396582][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396573][quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.[/quote]

Respect your opinion Duke, but still think the guy does not deserved to be fired, let alone never work as a broadcaster again.[/quote]

With what is going on in the world right now, to use language like that is not only wrong, but incredibley stupid. How could any company trust putting this guy on tv or radio again? If he cannot be mindful when the PC stuff is at an all time high like it is now, when can he?

This dude is incredibley clueless and that will keep him out of a job as much as his offensive language.
 
[quote="austour" post=396587][quote="Monte" post=396582][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396573][quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.[/quote]

Respect your opinion Duke, but still think the guy does not deserved to be fired, let alone never work as a broadcaster again.[/quote]

I listened to the quote in question and he not only said it but he said it with disdain. Tom Brennaman should be hired by a company that does not have a problem being associated with homophobia and anti-gay positions.

If he loses his job it's just because his present employers don't fit that description. It could be a moral stance or it could be an economic decision because hiring him and presenting him to the nation tarnishes their brand. That's up to them.[/quote]

And while he was apologizing, he stopped the apology to announce a home run hit by a Reds batter. Makes me think the apology was more of an afterthought and making sure he announced that home run was the priority. Further reinforcing Duke's comment that this guy is clueless, IMHO.

Yes, it would be nice if everyone was held equally to consequences for their inappropriate comments or actions. But we all know that's not the real world. Look at the sport we all know and love. How many Power 5 schools suffer the same consequences for recruiting violations or illegal payouts as do schools in mid-majors and such. We all know life's not fair. I wish it were. So just because others may have gotten away with hateful comments doesn't excuse Brennaman from suffering consequences for his hateful language.

And going back to Amir's response, it was most appropriate and I am proud that he spent time with us at SJU.
 
[quote="austour" post=396587][quote="Monte" post=396582][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396573][quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.[/quote]

Respect your opinion Duke, but still think the guy does not deserved to be fired, let alone never work as a broadcaster again.[/quote]

I listened to the quote in question and he not only said it but he said it with disdain. Tom Brennaman should be hired by a company that does not have a problem being associated with homophobia and anti-gay positions.

If he loses his job it's just because his present employers don't fit that description. It could be a moral stance or it could be an economic decision because hiring him and presenting him to the nation tarnishes their brand. That's up to them.[/quote]

He used the word "Fag" so that automatically makes him "anti-gay"? Because you know what's in his heart? So everytine someone uttered the word "WOP" we can assume they're anti-Italian? What little I know of you, not at all surprised by your assumptions and position. Needless to say, I couldn't disagree more. But then again, I tend to be more "tolerant" then most of those who profess to be.
 
[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396590][quote="Monte" post=396582][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396573][quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.[/quote]

Respect your opinion Duke, but still think the guy does not deserved to be fired, let alone never work as a broadcaster again.[/quote]

With what is going on in the world right now, to use language like that is not only wrong, but incredibley stupid. How could any company trust putting this guy on tv or radio again? If he cannot be mindful when the PC stuff is at an all time high like it is now, when can he?

This dude is incredibley clueless and that will keep him out of a job as much as his offensive language.[/quote]

I never said that he won't loose his job. He probably will.I just said that IMO he shouldn't loose his job.
 
[quote="Monte" post=396614][quote="austour" post=396587][quote="Monte" post=396582][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396573][quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.[/quote]

Respect your opinion Duke, but still think the guy does not deserved to be fired, let alone never work as a broadcaster again.[/quote]

I listened to the quote in question and he not only said it but he said it with disdain. Tom Brennaman should be hired by a company that does not have a problem being associated with homophobia and anti-gay positions.

If he loses his job it's just because his present employers don't fit that description. It could be a moral stance or it could be an economic decision because hiring him and presenting him to the nation tarnishes their brand. That's up to them.[/quote]

He used the word "Fag" so that automatically makes him "anti-gay"? Because you know what's in his heart? So everytine someone uttered the word "WOP" we can assume they're anti-Italian? What little I know of you, not at all surprised by your assumptions and position. Needless to say, I couldn't disagree more. But then again, I tend to be more "tolerant" then most of those who profess to be.[/quote]

If he'd just been caught uttering only the word "fag" then you might have a point. But he said (roughly) "...that's one of the biggest fag cities in the world." Clearly his statement was intended to poke fun at, or insult some city by linking it to a derogatory phrase for a fairly large segment of the human population. Its certainly fair to presume he's not a fan of the folks that the word is meant to deride, or he wouldn't have used it to insult whatever city he was talking about.
Context matters.
To use your WOP analogy...if he'd just uttered "WOP"...people would have been scratching their heads wondering WTF is he talking about? And people would want to know the the rest of the conversation was to determine whether it was intended as a derogatory comment towards Italians.
Whereas, if he said something as outrageous as ... "My daughter is engaged to a WOP, I'd rather she married a N****r." Nobody would have a doubt what he meant or how it should be taken.

The guy F'd up. He'll pay a price for that, and should.
He apologized, live on the air and off the cuff. He deserves some credit for that. Whether he gets another gig behind a microphone will probably depend on whether he takes your point of view and argues he wasn't intending it to be an insult, or if he follows through on his apology with real action that reaches out to those he offended.

In a civil society "Fag", "WOP", "N****r", and every other ethnic, religious or social slur should never be acceptable in the public space. ESPECIALLY on the public airwaves when children are watching/listening.
 
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=396616][quote="Monte" post=396614][quote="austour" post=396587][quote="Monte" post=396582][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396573][quote="Monte" post=396571][quote="Duke of Earlington" post=396569]Im not a huge PC guy and I think alot of this stuff is an overreaction, but what grown adult still uses this word? This dude has no one to blame but himself and if he never works again, he has no one to blame but himself.[/quote]

"...never works again"? Really? How about we confiscate all of his personal belongings and banish him to siberia? Inappropriate comment? Absolutely! An apology and maybe a small suspension is more then enough IMO. But then again, ESPN are masters at selective outrage and punishment, and Plus I'm sure the corporate hypocrites(the advertisers) are already feigning outrage and threatening to pull commercials.[/quote]

I meant on TV or radio. Obviously he can be employeed again but for a tv or radio station to call games, i doubt it.[/quote]

Respect your opinion Duke, but still think the guy does not deserved to be fired, let alone never work as a broadcaster again.[/quote]

I listened to the quote in question and he not only said it but he said it with disdain. Tom Brennaman should be hired by a company that does not have a problem being associated with homophobia and anti-gay positions.

If he loses his job it's just because his present employers don't fit that description. It could be a moral stance or it could be an economic decision because hiring him and presenting him to the nation tarnishes their brand. That's up to them.[/quote]

He used the word "Fag" so that automatically makes him "anti-gay"? Because you know what's in his heart? So everytine someone uttered the word "WOP" we can assume they're anti-Italian? What little I know of you, not at all surprised by your assumptions and position. Needless to say, I couldn't disagree more. But then again, I tend to be more "tolerant" then most of those who profess to be.[/quote]

If he'd just been caught uttering only the word "fag" then you might have a point. But he said (roughly) "...that's one of the biggest fag cities in the world." Clearly his statement was intended to poke fun at, or insult some city by linking it to a derogatory phrase for a fairly large segment of the human population. Its certainly fair to presume he's not a fan of the folks that the word is meant to deride, or he wouldn't have used it to insult whatever city he was talking about.
Context matters.
To use your WOP analogy...if he'd just uttered "WOP"...people would have been scratching their heads wondering WTF is he talking about? And people would want to know the the rest of the conversation was to determine whether it was intended as a derogatory comment towards Italians.
Whereas, if he said something as outrageous as ... "My daughter is engaged to a WOP, I'd rather she married a N****r." Nobody would have a doubt what he meant or how it should be taken.

The guy F'd up. He'll pay a price for that, and should.
He apologized, live on the air and off the cuff. He deserves some credit for that. Whether he gets another gig behind a microphone will probably depend on whether he takes your point of view and argues he wasn't intending it to be an insult, or if he follows through on his apology with real action that reaches out to those he offended.

In a civil society "Fag", "WOP", "N****r", and every other ethnic, religious or social slur should never be acceptable in the public space. ESPECIALLY on the public airwaves when children are watching/listening.[/quote]

Agree with much of what you're saying, but are you suggesting those words not be used in movies, theater, etc? Whether in jest or seriously? How about for comedic purposes? What about in music????? Also, keep in mind that his words weren't meant for the public.
Major screw up no doubt, but unless he has a history of homophobic, racist, etc behavior, but should not be career ending IMO.
 
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I can't even remember the last time I used that term, called a female a B---h, or used any derogatory racial terms. The sportscaster who typed n---ers on his phone and this gentleman really messed up. It just goes to show that there are a lot of inherent prejudices going on in society at the present time.

In regards to Amir, much respect for the young man for speaking out. It shows that he was raised to have a conscience and make himself heard, regarding matters that disrespect any segment of our society.
 
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