Amir Garrett Speaks Out
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[quote="Paultzman" post=396516]https://nypost.com/2020/08/19/reds-amir-garrett-speaks-out-against-announcers-slur/[/quote]
I heard this on the national news this morning. So proud of Amir! Represented SJU well!
I heard this on the national news this morning. So proud of Amir! Represented SJU well!
billthetruth
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But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be punished by NFL, but held to the same standard and also then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.
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[quote="billthetruth" post=396527]
Good for Garrett. He is an outstanding representative of the SJU community
But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be banned from NFL for 1 year, but then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]
Sportscasters and members of other professions are deemed easily expendable. As such, their lives can quickly be ruined by one mistake. Professional athletes are not, so they get a slap on the wrist at best, in most cases. It's all about the $$$. What an F'in upside down world we live in. Just another reason that I will not support pro sports.
But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be banned from NFL for 1 year, but then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]
Sportscasters and members of other professions are deemed easily expendable. As such, their lives can quickly be ruined by one mistake. Professional athletes are not, so they get a slap on the wrist at best, in most cases. It's all about the $$$. What an F'in upside down world we live in. Just another reason that I will not support pro sports.
[quote="billthetruth" post=396527]
Good for Garrett. He is an outstanding representative of the SJU community
But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be punished by NFL, but held to the same standard and also then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]
I largely agree with you but I don't see these as being the same thing.
Jackson posted inappropriate/racist things on social media, apparently because he doesn't know the history of those comments.
Brenaman's comments were a use of a derogatory slang word that he understood completely and thought he had said off air so it didn't matter.
I wouldn't hire Breneman but I'd consider signing Jackson if he had followed through on his promise to educate himself on the subject he was posting about.
But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be punished by NFL, but held to the same standard and also then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]
I largely agree with you but I don't see these as being the same thing.
Jackson posted inappropriate/racist things on social media, apparently because he doesn't know the history of those comments.
Brenaman's comments were a use of a derogatory slang word that he understood completely and thought he had said off air so it didn't matter.
I wouldn't hire Breneman but I'd consider signing Jackson if he had followed through on his promise to educate himself on the subject he was posting about.
Anthony Mattia
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[quote="billthetruth" post=396527]
Good for Garrett. He is an outstanding representative of the SJU community
But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be punished by NFL, but held to the same standard and also then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]
NM
But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be punished by NFL, but held to the same standard and also then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]
NM
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billthetruth
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[quote="SJUFAN2" post=396529][quote="billthetruth" post=396527]
Good for Garrett. He is an outstanding representative of the SJU community
But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be punished by NFL, but held to the same standard and also then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]
I largely agree with you but I don't see these as being the same thing.
Jackson posted inappropriate/racist things on social media, apparently because he doesn't know the history of those comments.
Brenaman's comments were a use of a derogatory slang word that he understood completely and thought he had said off air so it didn't matter.
I wouldn't hire Breneman but I'd consider signing Jackson if he had followed through on his promise to educate himself on the subject he was posting about.[/quote]
Noted.
But Jackson is an adult and cant hide behind i didn't know what I was posting excuse.
As Kareem Abdul Jabbar said about Jackson ignorance CAN'T be an excuse
But lets also see if Thom Brenaman's apology in time is accepted and he is forgiven the way Desean Jackson was for his just as out of line antisemitic remarks made earlier this year. Sadly, I don't think we will see that.
My prediction is Brenaman doesn't call NFL games this season, but Jackson still catches passes. Hope I am proven wrong but something tells me the selective PC movement will be in full force again!!! We unfortunately see it with the Metoo movement
They should both be punished by NFL, but held to the same standard and also then given a second chance.
Sadly, i'm sure we will see Jackson playing this year and the hurt he caused the Jewish community will be swept under the rug by Bozo Goddell, a person that has shown to have ZERO backbone.[/quote]
I largely agree with you but I don't see these as being the same thing.
Jackson posted inappropriate/racist things on social media, apparently because he doesn't know the history of those comments.
Brenaman's comments were a use of a derogatory slang word that he understood completely and thought he had said off air so it didn't matter.
I wouldn't hire Breneman but I'd consider signing Jackson if he had followed through on his promise to educate himself on the subject he was posting about.[/quote]
Noted.
But Jackson is an adult and cant hide behind i didn't know what I was posting excuse.
As Kareem Abdul Jabbar said about Jackson ignorance CAN'T be an excuse
Windy City Johnny Fan
Member
[quote="lawmanfan" post=396534]Folks - PLEASE remember that we are NOT using the forum to discuss/debate political issues[/quote]
This thread should be deleted. Be consistent please.
This thread should be deleted. Be consistent please.
Windy, you shouldn't be reading anything into my personal views on any issue from my moderator activities.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).
frankingeneral
Member
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396542][quote="lawmanfan" post=396534]Folks - PLEASE remember that we are NOT using the forum to discuss/debate political issues[/quote]
This thread should be deleted. Be consistent please.[/quote]
For real, we all watched the BLM patches thread get deleted this morning...some how this thread still stands. Really makes you wonder...
This thread should be deleted. Be consistent please.[/quote]
For real, we all watched the BLM patches thread get deleted this morning...some how this thread still stands. Really makes you wonder...
Windy City Johnny Fan
Member
[quote="lawmanfan" post=396543]Windy, you shouldn't be reading anything into my personal views on any issue from my moderator activities.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?
Windy City Johnny Fan
Member
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396545][quote="lawmanfan" post=396543]Windy, you shouldn't be reading anything into my personal views on any issue from my moderator activities.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.
Moose
Well-known member
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396546][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396545][quote="lawmanfan" post=396543]Windy, you shouldn't be reading anything into my personal views on any issue from my moderator activities.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]
Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.
But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]
Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.
But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts
Windy City Johnny Fan
Member
[quote="Moose" post=396548][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396546][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396545][quote="lawmanfan" post=396543]Windy, you shouldn't be reading anything into my personal views on any issue from my moderator activities.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]
Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.
But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts[/quote]
Good knowledge, thanks Moose will do. Now delete the Garrett thread.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]
Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.
But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts
[/quote]Good knowledge, thanks Moose will do. Now delete the Garrett thread.
By "this Forum" I meant this specific one - there are a few other forums on the site for other topics. But yes it is annoying when people hijack a thread by something totally unrelated to it - i have posted many times asking people to stay on topic for that exact reason.
I sent you a Friend request, if you accept it then i can DM you.
And again I didn't delete the BLM thread and that (as well as this thread) are a subject of discussion among the mods.
I sent you a Friend request, if you accept it then i can DM you.
And again I didn't delete the BLM thread and that (as well as this thread) are a subject of discussion among the mods.
Moose
Well-known member
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396549][quote="Moose" post=396548][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396546][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396545][quote="lawmanfan" post=396543]Windy, you shouldn't be reading anything into my personal views on any issue from my moderator activities.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]
Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.
But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts[/quote]
Good knowledge, thanks Moose will do. Now delete the Garrett thread.[/quote]
Lest you forget I'm not a moderator here
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]
Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.
But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts
[/quote]Good knowledge, thanks Moose will do. Now delete the Garrett thread.[/quote]
Lest you forget I'm not a moderator here
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Windy City Johnny Fan
Member
[quote="Moose" post=396551][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396549][quote="Moose" post=396548][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396546][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=396545][quote="lawmanfan" post=396543]Windy, you shouldn't be reading anything into my personal views on any issue from my moderator activities.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]
Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.
But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts[/quote]
Good knowledge, thanks Moose will do. Now delete the Garrett thread.[/quote]
Lest you forget I'm not a moderator here[/quote]
Well, you should be damnit.
Back in the day we had a Religion and Politics Forum. It was eventually closed because is created hostility among the posters there who inevitably wound up breaking the site rules (respect the other posters, no personal attacks, etc).
We recently revived the forum as the Politics Forum to try to move the discussion about those issues (which started with some relation to sports and then quickly departed) out of this forum and into its own arena for people to discuss. Unfortunately (although not entirely unpredictably), that effort did not not last more than a week or two before it also went off of the rails and had to be closed down.
Whether we like it or not, in this day and age it seems as though any political that comes up is far more likely to cause strife, disagreement and hostility than it is to result in any consensus. There are lots of places in the world where people can discuss and debate those topics. But this forum is for basketball, period.
If people are capable of having conversations without getting into their political, religious, etc views, then great. But if past performance is any indicator of future results, that isn't going to happen and this thread will wind up deleted as well.
Best and stay safe,
LMF
P.S. - I agree that this thread should also probably be locked or graveyarded (although I did not delete the other one).[/quote]
That all seems reasonable to me. I'm just not sure why the rule is being applied selectively. BLM is in no way more political than the topic being discussed in this thread, yet it continues on. Why?[/quote]
Also, as a much less important aside, I find it humurous that you say this forum is "for basketball, period" while I have to sift through Yankees baseball, premier league soccer and other topics I could care less about that have absolutely nothing to do with St. John's basketball.[/quote]
Well you see there are these things called sub forums. Lovely little feature since Religion and Politics used to be one based on the history lesson you just got from LMF.
But you must be using RECENT posts which grab all of the recent posts regardless of sub forum. If you don't like the Yankees or Soccer I'd suggest maybe bookmarking the REDMEN TALK forum that only grabs those posts
[/quote]Good knowledge, thanks Moose will do. Now delete the Garrett thread.[/quote]
Lest you forget I'm not a moderator here[/quote]
Well, you should be damnit.
Windy City Johnny Fan
Member
[quote="lawmanfan" post=396550]By "this Forum" I meant this specific one - there are a few other forums on the site for other topics. But yes it is annoying when people hijack a thread by something totally unrelated to it - i have posted many times asking people to stay on topic for that exact reason.
I sent you a Friend request, if you accept it then i can DM you.
And again I didn't delete the BLM thread and that (as well as this thread) are a subject of discussion among the mods.[/quote]
Seems to be some selective policing / playing favorites going on by the mods. Perhaps if I were further up the proverbial "Leaderboard".
I sent you a Friend request, if you accept it then i can DM you.
And again I didn't delete the BLM thread and that (as well as this thread) are a subject of discussion among the mods.[/quote]
Seems to be some selective policing / playing favorites going on by the mods. Perhaps if I were further up the proverbial "Leaderboard".
If you didn't know, then at the top of the posts you'll see Forum - Redmen Forum - Redmen Talk - Amir Garrett Speaks Out - Reply. If you click on Redmen Talk you'll (theoretically) just get the basketball threads. If you click on Redmen Forum you'll see all of the forums. Same thing if you click the Forum tab at the top of the page.
If you hit Home then you get the stream and then you see everything as it gets posted.
If you hit Home then you get the stream and then you see everything as it gets posted.
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