All-time SJU transfer in vs. out - who wins?

LJSA wrote:
Ron Rowan
Lamont Middleton
Matt Brust
Marvin Clark
Justin Simon
Durand Johnson
Nyiwe
Jeff Allen



Roshown McLeod
Elijah Ingram
LJ Figueroa
Quincy Roberts

I'd add Ed Searcy & Kevin Loughery as two transfers from earlier days who worked out very well for us and Mustapha & Jamal Branch as more recent trasfers in who played well for us. LJSA listed several guys who could play on either team. To me, Tariq & Roshown probably worked out the best for their new schools. Agree that transfers in would beat transfers out handily. 
 
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NCJohnnie" post=419269 said:
LJSA wrote:
Ron Rowan
Lamont Middleton
Matt Brust
Marvin Clark
Justin Simon
Durand Johnson
Nyiwe
Jeff Allen



Roshown McLeod
Elijah Ingram
LJ Figueroa
Quincy Roberts

I'd add Ed Searcy & Kevin Loughery as two transfers from earlier days who worked out very well for us and Mustapha & Jamal Branch as more recent trasfers in who played well for us. LJSA listed several guys who could play on either team. To me, Tariq & Roshown probably worked out the best for their new schools. Agree that transfers in would beat transfers out handily. 
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I am going with guys I saw play here for the transfer in team, which leaves me to leave out Reggie Carter.  I really did not see him play while he was at St. John's much, definitely less than 10 times.  The initial post say to pick a five, it didn't say by position so I and going for starting five which in today's game doesn't always mean two guards, two forwards and a center.

Transfers In

G -  Boo Harvey, Marcus Hatten, G Bootsy Thornton, F Billy Goodwin, F Walter Berry

Transfers Out

G - Elijah Ingram, Derwin Kitchen, F L.J. Figueroa, F. Roshown Mcleod, F. Tariq Owens

I will go with the Transfers In with Wooden award winner the Truth, a couple of clutch late game big time performers, a lights out shooter who didn't shy away from the spotlight in big nationally televise games and a do it all who could lock you up on defense and score on offense.

Notes:  I went with Kitchen as he transfered to a Juco after playing in one exhibition here and then going to Florida State as he played he was a key player on a good team in the ACC and averaged double figures.  This slightly edged Larry Wright (averaged 9 a game his last year here and averaged more than 10pts per game in the two years after he left but at a mid to low major), Cedric Jackson (averged double figures at a mid to low major after leaving and had a cup of coffee in the NBA), Ty Edmundson (who went the Juco route after one year here and then averaged double figures at a pretty good mid major), Elander Lewis (average double figures in two years at VCU when who was a mid major at the time) and Quincy Roberts (lit it up one year at a low DI School). 
Although LJ's stats are lower than what he had here and that includes shooting percentage, he is in my starting five because despite what we've down with our recent streak, I think we would still be a better team with him starting next to Julian than Cole.

 
 
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redmanwest" post=419264 said:
There are a lot of transfer guards who could fill this role, but Reggie Carter MUST be one of them.                    Reggie Carter was a All American player for St John's  and a territoal draft choice of the NYKnicks .  As such , he has to rank among the Group that we would call Legends .    And , along with Walter Berry would be the 2 best players to transfer in to St John's . There are others who transferred in that were great players but , none that approach these two . 
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SLYFOXX1968" post=419276 said:
redmanwest" post=419264 said:
There are a lot of transfer guards who could fill this role, but Reggie Carter MUST be one of them.                    Reggie Carter was a All American player for St John's  and a territoal draft choice of the NYKnicks .  As such , he has to rank among the Group that we would call Legends .    And , along with Walter Berry would be the 2 best players to transfer in to St John's . There are others who transferred in that were great players but , none that approach these two . 
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Reggie Carter over Kevin Loughery seems like a real stretch to me.
 
Not one of the greats, but a serviceable bench player; John Hempel
 
Carter and KL were very close stat wise in college, though Loughery obviously had a better pro career.  I actually never saw KL play as a college player, so I am just going by stats.

As a Reggie Carter side note, my first day at ST. John's Law (and thereafter), there was an empty chair next to me in the lecture hall.  Reggie Carter has a very similar last name (the beginning) as I do, and we were seated alphabetically.  It turns out, he would have been seated to my immediate left in several classes, but he never came even though he had enrolled; he was trying out and then playing for the NYKs a few seasons.  And, sadly, he passed away too soon.
 
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A few additional in-transfers:  John Farmer and Terry McCormick, both from Hofstra. Paul Berwanger, don't remember his original school.
There was also the Brooklyn kid, who started at Kansas St. before transferring to SJU, and then got thrown off the team when he attacked Al LoBalbo. I can't remember his name.
 
 
Las Vegan" post=419289 said:
A few additional in-transfers:  John Farmer and Terry McCormick, both from Hofstra. Paul Berwanger, don't remember his original school.
There was also the Brooklyn kid, who started at Kansas St. before transferring to SJU, and then got thrown off the team when he attacked Al LoBalbo. I can't remember his name.

 
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Paul Berwanger - Boston College
Curtis Redding - Kansas State
 
Monte" post=419286 said:
Not one of the greats, but a serviceable bench player; John Hempel

and in the same vein Mike Feigenbaum who came in with another local D2 transfer that year Aiken (forget first name) when Lou did his recruiting in the shallow end of the pool to fill some holes (remember one of their coaches ripping Lou for taking one of his players).
 
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Kenny Mac was an important member of Lapchicks last team that won the Holiday festival and NIT in the same year !!!!!!!!!!!
 
bamafan" post=419293 said:
and in the same vein Mike Feigenbaum who came in with another local D2 transfer that year Aiken (forget first name) when Lou did his recruiting in the shallow end of the pool to fill some holes (remember one of their coaches ripping Lou for taking one of his players).
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Feigenbaum (Ohio U), came in with Jeff Allen (Rutgers) and Bobby Kelly (Holy Cross).
All sat out the 80-81 season and played for us the following year.
 
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Two incoming transfers that disappointed were Nurideen Lindsey, and Alpha Bangura.

If I recall correctly Alpha Bangura transferred into St. John's from Monmonoth after his frosh year to play on a Mike Jarvis team.  Alpha had been a scoring machine for Monmouth averaging 19+/- points.  The posters on the site greeted him as a "can't miss strar".  After his one year redshirt sit out he was disappointing at best and ended up quiting the St. John's team.

Nurideen Lindsey transferred in with a big reputation as a star recruit,  I recall many on this site concrned that he would be NBA bound after just one season.  Well he stayed at StJ's for just one disappointing semester before quiting the team.  He surfaced at Rider College for one season where he averaged 8 ppg.




 
 
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Bangura was a guy that LOOKED like a can't miss guy and had a terrific pro BB body.  He turned out to be, well, charitably, not as expected.

 
 
fuchsia" post=419284 said:
SLYFOXX1968" post=419276 said:
redmanwest" post=419264 said:
There are a lot of transfer guards who could fill this role, but Reggie Carter MUST be one of them.                    Reggie Carter was a All American player for St John's  and a territoal draft choice of the NYKnicks .  As such , he has to rank among the Group that we would call Legends .    And , along with Walter Berry would be the 2 best players to transfer in to St John's . There are others who transferred in that were great players but , none that approach these two . 
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Reggie Carter over Kevin Loughery seems like a real stretch to me.
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Did you see loughery at sju?   He definitely had a better NBA career, but Carter was very highly regarded even coming to sju.
 
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