All Realignment Talk Here

Interesting post on Villanova board...a poster indicated that he believed that UCONN and Cinci were considering following the C7 and parking FB in MAC...probably unsubstantiated speculation...interesting nonetheless

On an unrelated note...boy are their posters down on their team
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I think that's Villanova fans wishful thinking, I doubt theres any truth to it.
Cincinnati went to two BCS bowls recently, they don't think of themselves as a second tier football program.
They'll form some new Big East conference before they joined the MAC.
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With Boise off the table and Navy in a holding pattern, there may be no big financial football incentive to belong to a league for all sports that includes USF, UCF, ECU, UH, SMU, Tulane and destroy their basketball brand. Then again, if 10 stay together, Memphis, Houston, Temple, Cincy and Uconn would likely be much better than the A10 minus Xavier, etc. If and only if the best of the A10 move to the Big East.
 
Unfortunately publics Yukon & temple spent millions of dollars of taxpayer money to manufacture irrelevant FBS football programs and those meaningless football programs may ultimately be damaging to their more respected me 's basketball programs.
 
Unfortunately publics Yukon & temple spent millions of dollars of taxpayer money to manufacture irrelevant FBS football programs and those meaningless football programs may ultimately be damaging to their more respected me 's basketball programs.
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This, from the advocate for Villanova FBS football, which is even more meaningless than UConn or Temple's program???????
 
fan ...... If you reread my above message you will see my reference to millions of taxpayer money being spent for irrelevant football programs at Yukon and temple which may meaningless football programs may ultimately damage their fine basketball programs.

Since you raised the issue of a private University please provide your opinion of how much taxpayer money has Villanova used to run its football program?

Now kinfly tell us how much taxpayer money Yukon and temple has received.

Thanks.
 
fan ...... If you reread my above message you will see my reference to millions of taxpayer money being spent for irrelevant football programs at Yukon and temple which may meaningless football programs may ultimately damage their fine basketball programs.

Since you raised the issue of a private University please provide your opinion of how much taxpayer money has Villanova used to run its football program?

Now kinfly tell us how much taxpayer money Yukon and temple has received.

Thanks.
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Off the top of my head, uconn received 91 million just towards building the football stadium. That is not including lots of other costs for the football program, men's and women's bball programs etc...
 
fan ...... If you reread my above message you will see my reference to millions of taxpayer money being spent for irrelevant football programs at Yukon and temple which may meaningless football programs may ultimately damage their fine basketball programs.

Since you raised the issue of a private University please provide your opinion of how much taxpayer money has Villanova used to run its football program?

Now kinfly tell us how much taxpayer money Yukon and temple has received.

Thanks.
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Off the top of my head, uconn received 91 million just towards building the football stadium. That is not including lots of other costs for the football program, men's and women's bball programs etc...
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Tax payers have unknowingly been funding college football and its related bloat for decades. College football is unsustainable without tax payer funds and television contracts. Even with both of those inputs, most schools lose money.
With the rare exception of Notre Dame, Stanford and Miami, most private universities have no national brand appeal and also suck at football. There are only 17 "private" FBS universities. With the exception of the three mentioned, most of the other privates play in 2nd tier Bowl games and cannot come close to competing with "State" schools.
Schools like Villanova and most colleges on the eastern seaboard have zero chance for a seat at the big boys table.
 
fan ...... If you reread my above message you will see my reference to millions of taxpayer money being spent for irrelevant football programs at Yukon and temple which may meaningless football programs may ultimately damage their fine basketball programs.

Since you raised the issue of a private University please provide your opinion of how much taxpayer money has Villanova used to run its football program?

Now kinfly tell us how much taxpayer money Yukon and temple has received.

Thanks.
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You were a huge proponent of Nova jumping to FBS in football, but now you are writing that the lousy Uconn and Temple football teams may be hurting their respective brands. Look at your post...there are two points separated by an "and." If Nova made the jump they wouldn't be a tenth as successful as either of those schools in football at this point.
 
fan ...... If you reread my above message you will see my reference to millions of taxpayer money being spent for irrelevant football programs at Yukon and temple which may meaningless football programs may ultimately damage their fine basketball programs.

Since you raised the issue of a private University please provide your opinion of how much taxpayer money has Villanova used to run its football program?

Now kinfly tell us how much taxpayer money Yukon and temple has received.

Thanks.
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I thought the point was that schools that sink money into meaningless football programs can damage their fine basketball programs. WRT that question, schools that live in glass houses should not throw stones.

The source of the money (taxpayer vs private) may be relevant to other questions, but not to the basic issue you raised, which is whether it is useful for a good basketball school to throw money at an irrelevant football program.
 
Talk on twitter this AM that the ACC is about to offer full membership to UCONN and Football only to Cincy with a potential for all sports in the future. They go on to say "ACC was warned by espn that MWC was going to double down on both those schools in an effort to get some eastern penetration.". Many of you have discredited one of the people involved in this discussion, however, I find this all very interesting.
 
Talk on twitter this AM that the ACC is about to offer full membership to UCONN and Football only to Cincy with a potential for all sports in the future. They go on to say "ACC was warned by espn that MWC was going to double down on both those schools in an effort to get some eastern penetration.". Many of you have discredited one of the people involved in this discussion, however, I find this all very interesting.
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If this is the case, and the ACC doesn't get raided, thy could end up being to big for their own good.
 
fan ...... If you reread my above message you will see my reference to millions of taxpayer money being spent for irrelevant football programs at Yukon and temple which may meaningless football programs may ultimately damage their fine basketball programs.

Since you raised the issue of a private University please provide your opinion of how much taxpayer money has Villanova used to run its football program?

Now kinfly tell us how much taxpayer money Yukon and temple has received.

Thanks.
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I thought the point was that schools that sink money into meaningless football programs can damage their fine basketball programs. WRT that question, schools that live in glass houses should not throw stones.

The source of the money (taxpayer vs private) may be relevant to other questions, but not to the basic issue you raised, which is whether it is useful for a good basketball school to throw money at an irrelevant football program.
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Otis, Lawman,
I think it's very easy for us as a fans of a basketball-only school to label other school's football programs irrelevant, or cast them aside. Yes, it's true that the schools your mentioning have had more success in basketball than football, it's not even close in some cases.
But that doesn't make a saturday football game any less of an event for the whole campus community. Football is still an identifying marker, and important to a lot of alumni at those schools. Yes, they know they are basketball schools, but they still want to see their football program "take the next step", that's what they're always talking about.

Consider this; the average attendance in 2011 for home games at:
UCONN 36,668
Cincinnati 32,293
Temple 28,060
Syracuse 40,504

Football still matters to people associated with those schools. It's not their top priority, but we shouldn't dismiss it as irrelevant so easily.
 
Consider this; the average attendance in 2011 for home games at:
UCONN 36,668
Cincinnati 32,293
Temple 28,060
Syracuse 40,504

Football still matters to people associated with those schools. It's not their top priority, but we shouldn't dismiss it as irrelevant so easily.
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Villanova draws about 50,000. Not per game - per year.
 
Consider this; the average attendance in 2011 for home games at:
UCONN 36,668
Cincinnati 32,293
Temple 28,060
Syracuse 40,504

Football still matters to people associated with those schools. It's not their top priority, but we shouldn't dismiss it as irrelevant so easily.
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Villanova draws about 50,000. Not per game - per year.
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Villanova is not a high division football program. After the BE accepted TCU as the ninth member of the fb conference they should have gone after another high profile school a la Boise State but when the Catholic schools came up with the dopey idea of Villanova as the tenth fb school the other schools started thinking harder about leaving.
 
lawfan

LMAO after reading your above posts.

I can only hope you are joking about you recent posts comparing FBS and FCS programs.

Unfortunately there is no humor in the fact that the taxpayers of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania have dumped tens of millions of dollars into the irrelevant temple football program which meaningless program may prevent temple from consideration in the C7 and exile it to the lightweight version of BEast football sans Yukon and Cincinnati. "Hello Tulane, SMU, UCF, ECU,et al" Thankfully Villanova understood the slippery slope of FBS football and abandoned that consideration once the University of $yracuse and Pitt$ left the BEast.

Thanks for adding some humor to this topic.
 
Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz

Statement said the 7 discussed their "orderly evolution to a foundation of basketball schools that honors the tradition of the Big East.''
 
I believe it because we were being thrown a bone after the football schools in prior dealings. Football schools didn't negotiate for us. They just negotiated for the football schools. To make the real money, we'll still have to earn NCAA credits but our contract sucked because nobody tried to sell basketball. We were sold as a tag-along.
 
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