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[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279736]I find it insane to think that the Anti Mullin crew on here , have no comprehension of what the loss of Lovett meant to this team in late January -February . Lovett and Ponds were to be the focal point of the team’s offense and could have been the highest scoring duo in last season ‘s College Season . No team could afford the loss of a Star player as valuable a contributor as Lovett was in the prior year . ND floundered badly losing their Star Bonzi Colson for nearly the second half of the season . No different than our losing Lovett . And , no one is justified in putting Lovett’s defection on anyone , except Lovett . He could have used this Year to bolster his pro stock , likely not in the NBA but, somewhere . And , several of the games in the 11 game skid were winnable but, lost in close games . The February resurgence , with wins over Nova and Duke, generated respect from nearly all fans , except the dingy ones who bleep out the same Anti Team rhetoric . Non stop . Dinkins , Mjmaher , 72, Tom in Salem among the ones who are most flagrant .[/quote]

If you are going to accuse me of something you better know what the fuck you are talking about first. Who started this thread after the Duke win ?

https://redmen.com/forum-index/redmentalk/271239-fuck-duke.html?limitstart=0
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279736]I find it insane to think that the Anti Mullin crew on here , have no comprehension of what the loss of Lovett meant to this team in late January -February . Lovett and Ponds were to be the focal point of the team’s offense and could have been the highest scoring duo in last season ‘s College Season . No team could afford the loss of a Star player as valuable a contributor as Lovett was in the prior year . ND floundered badly losing their Star Bonzi Colson for nearly the second half of the season . No different than our losing Lovett . And , no one is justified in putting Lovett’s defection on anyone , except Lovett . He could have used this Year to bolster his pro stock , likely not in the NBA but, somewhere . And , several of the games in the 11 game skid were winnable but, lost in close games . The February resurgence , with wins over Nova and Duke, generated respect from nearly all fans , except the dingy ones who bleep out the same Anti Team rhetoric . Non stop . Dinkins , Mjmaher , 72, Tom in Salem among the ones who are most flagrant .[/quote]

I think practically all posters on here concur that LoVett departure markedly hurt the team.

Btw, when you put Mjm on that list you really eroded your credibility. :) In fact all of those guys on your “anti team” list are fans of the program, just not in agreement with you.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=279741][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279736]I find it insane to think that the Anti Mullin crew on here , have no comprehension of what the loss of Lovett meant to this team in late January -February . Lovett and Ponds were to be the focal point of the team’s offense and could have been the highest scoring duo in last season ‘s College Season . No team could afford the loss of a Star player as valuable a contributor as Lovett was in the prior year . ND floundered badly losing their Star Bonzi Colson for nearly the second half of the season . No different than our losing Lovett . And , no one is justified in putting Lovett’s defection on anyone , except Lovett . He could have used this Year to bolster his pro stock , likely not in the NBA but, somewhere . And , several of the games in the 11 game skid were winnable but, lost in close games . The February resurgence , with wins over Nova and Duke, generated respect from nearly all fans , except the dingy ones who bleep out the same Anti Team rhetoric . Non stop . Dinkins , Mjmaher , 72, Tom in Salem among the ones who are most flagrant .[/quote]

I wouldn't say MJ or Dinkins have been beating any kind of Anti-Mullin drum. MJ is one of the most positive posters on the board and Dink seems to have some insight on our recruiting efforts (or lack of) but he has also been fair in my opinion.[/quote]

I call it, as I see or know it.... I know most of our staff (outside of one) are lethargic, per recruiting, but some posters don't wanna hear it. I'm one of the more optimistic posters, as you've stated, but I'm not gonna stick my head in the sand when I know something is awry.

We beat Duke and Villanova in February.... Hip, hip, hooray! I felt damn good about those wins, but I'm not one who'll ignore the overall, body work and what is going on within the program. Some posters wanna take those wins, and totally ignore the rest of the season. That's not how it works. It may work that way in their fantasy world, but that's not how it works to the folks who are all about reality.

Our current way of recruiting doesn't have any sustainability. There's not really too much ryhme or reason to what they're doing. As, Moose practically stated earlier.... Next year we'll basically be back in the same (or worse) situation next season.

I got news for some of you.... Let a few NBA GM's tell Ponds they'll draft him EARLY in the 2nd round, and see what happens.

The only LOUD posters are the one's who roasted Lavin at every turn and they're the same one's who continue to give him crap. Transparent as glass.
 
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[quote="JohnnyFan" post=279741][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279736]I find it insane to think that the Anti Mullin crew on here , have no comprehension of what the loss of Lovett meant to this team in late January -February . Lovett and Ponds were to be the focal point of the team’s offense and could have been the highest scoring duo in last season ‘s College Season . No team could afford the loss of a Star player as valuable a contributor as Lovett was in the prior year . ND floundered badly losing their Star Bonzi Colson for nearly the second half of the season . No different than our losing Lovett . And , no one is justified in putting Lovett’s defection on anyone , except Lovett . He could have used this Year to bolster his pro stock , likely not in the NBA but, somewhere . And , several of the games in the 11 game skid were winnable but, lost in close games . The February resurgence , with wins over Nova and Duke, generated respect from nearly all fans , except the dingy ones who bleep out the same Anti Team rhetoric . Non stop . Dinkins , Mjmaher , 72, Tom in Salem among the ones who are most flagrant .[/quote]

I wouldn't say MJ or Dinkins have been beating any kind of Anti-Mullin drum. MJ is one of the most positive posters on the board and Dink seems to have some insight on our recruiting efforts (or lack of) but he has also been fair in my opinion.[/quote] Ironically. First I thought Dinkins was a little harsh on Mullin. Lately however, I find myself agreeing w him, especially regarding our 1 man recruiting approach.
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279736]I find it insane to think that the Anti Mullin crew on here , have no comprehension of what the loss of Lovett meant to this team in late January -February . Lovett and Ponds were to be the focal point of the team’s offense and could have been the highest scoring duo in last season ‘s College Season . No team could afford the loss of a Star player as valuable a contributor as Lovett was in the prior year . ND floundered badly losing their Star Bonzi Colson for nearly the second half of the season . No different than our losing Lovett . And , no one is justified in putting Lovett’s defection on anyone , except Lovett . He could have used this Year to bolster his pro stock , likely not in the NBA but, somewhere . And , several of the games in the 11 game skid were winnable but, lost in close games . The February resurgence , with wins over Nova and Duke, generated respect from nearly all fans , except the dingy ones who bleep out the same Anti Team rhetoric . Non stop . Dinkins , Mjmaher , 72, Tom in Salem among the ones who are most flagrant .[/quote]

Who started this thread after the Butler game ? Try and be honest

https://redmen.com/forum-index/redmentalk/272594-a-night-to-be-proud-of-our-guys.html
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279736]I find it insane to think that the Anti Mullin crew on here , have no comprehension of what the loss of Lovett meant to this team in late January -February . Lovett and Ponds were to be the focal point of the team’s offense and could have been the highest scoring duo in last season ‘s College Season . No team could afford the loss of a Star player as valuable a contributor as Lovett was in the prior year . ND floundered badly losing their Star Bonzi Colson for nearly the second half of the season . No different than our losing Lovett . And , no one is justified in putting Lovett’s defection on anyone , except Lovett . He could have used this Year to bolster his pro stock , likely not in the NBA but, somewhere . And , several of the games in the 11 game skid were winnable but, lost in close games . The February resurgence , with wins over Nova and Duke, generated respect from nearly all fans , except the dingy ones who bleep out the same Anti Team rhetoric . Non stop . Dinkins , Mjmaher , 72, Tom in Salem among the ones who are most flagrant .[/quote]

Time to come out of your coma.
I can't count the number of anti Mullin posters on here now.
How many pro Mullin posters are in your group?
To be still sticking up for a man who watches St. Jean coach, Matt recruit, and Richmond get paid for the best seat in the house is insane.
I get it that you must be a family member or friend, but don't knock 50+ year fans for their opinions here.
There isn't one single coach since Louie that I wouldn't take over Mullin, and that in itself is a very sad statement.
You're calling out people who have been to hundreds of games and are ardent SJU fans above any other teams they follow.
You need to see the forest through the trees.
 
It is absurd to say that you would take Norm Roberts or Mahoney over CM at this point in time. The team has incrementally improved each year. Too slow, yes, but improved. There are serious questions about recruiting, team management, turnover etc. But, I think a lot of what ant-Mullin people have said is hyperbole. There are warning signs, and if we regress next year, then it is time to start debating, but thus far, slow and steady improvement in terms of talent and results is evident. And, I am a 40 year fan and not related to Mullin.
 
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At the salaries they earn things should have happened sooner .Last place finishes in the league means you are not doing your job.PATIENCE is no longer an excuse for what the school is paying we demand more than a snails pace improvement.
He gets us to the dance next yr or we should start shopping around
 
"We demand". Really? Easy to say things should have come quicker. And perhaps they would have had some of the defections not occurred. But, fans of a college basketball team are really not in a position to "demand" anything. Hope for a better product? Yes. Hope for a fun experience? Yes. If you donate to the school, and are not satisfied, you can certainly withhold contributions. But as a fan base of a college sport team, to "demand" anything seems again to be hyperbolic as it implies some sort of right to a top 25 team.

I am not patient. I am realistic. In this day and age, once you fall off the cliff (or hang on by your fingernails) it is HARD to climb back up. It is hard to recruit top talent. Unfortunately, you need to demonstrate success to build on toward more success. We have very little consistent success for a few decades now.

Could the hoped for return to relevance happened sooner with a more experienced staff? YES I believe so. Is it frustrating that we are still muddled at the bottom? YES of course. But unless we backslide next year (which is a real possibility), I am satisfied that the progress has been slow and steady. But I agree, next year is crucial and probably decisive for the future of the coaching staff.

[quote="usguard" post=279786]At the salaries they earn things should have happened sooner .Last place finishes in the league means you are not doing your job.PATIENCE is no longer an excuse for what the school is paying we demand more than a snails pace improvement.
He gets us to the dance next yr or we should start shopping around[/quote]
 
[quote="usguard" post=279786]At the salaries they earn things should have happened sooner .Last place finishes in the league means you are not doing your job.PATIENCE is no longer an excuse for what the school is paying we demand more than a snails pace improvement.
He gets us to the dance next yr or we should start shopping around[/quote]

Who should they have been better than this year? Using your logic they should raise mullin to 12 million a year so they win the ncaa championship.

By seasons end they were better than Georgetown but there are no do overs. Our core guys could play with anyone and did, but we were maybe 3 rotation players short of being a great team. I say three because had lovett and mussini stayed and if we had a legitimate big man who could post and rebound we winn maybe 22-23 games. A lot of ifs but i would take ponds Clark Simon on any of our great teams and they would be assets. Owens was a 6 11 version of our Harvard guard who at seasons end mostly shot from 15 and out unguarded.
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279736]I find it insane to think that the Anti Mullin crew on here , have no comprehension of what the loss of Lovett meant to this team in late January -February . Lovett and Ponds were to be the focal point of the team’s offense and could have been the highest scoring duo in last season ‘s College Season . No team could afford the loss of a Star player as valuable a contributor as Lovett was in the prior year . ND floundered badly losing their Star Bonzi Colson for nearly the second half of the season . No different than our losing Lovett . And , no one is justified in putting Lovett’s defection on anyone , except Lovett . He could have used this Year to bolster his pro stock , likely not in the NBA but, somewhere . And , several of the games in the 11 game skid were winnable but, lost in close games . The February resurgence , with wins over Nova and Duke, generated respect from nearly all fans , except the dingy ones who bleep out the same Anti Team rhetoric . Non stop . Dinkins , Mjmaher , 72, Tom in Salem among the ones who are most flagrant .[/quote]

You're the least intelligent on the forum. A flat out nitwit.

I've also noticed two persons are abusing their privilege on here. Don't think I'm not paying attention.
 
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I don’t know what this thread is about anymore, reading the last few pages, but is he a goner? That’s official?
 
Dinkins , you are among the least liked posters on this or the other site. And , have been for years ! All you got in your game is personal attack and name calling . How many times have you been censured , suspended, admonished for your gutter sniping ? More than anyone else , ever !
 
Redmanwest wrote: It is absurd to say that you would take Norm Roberts or Mahoney over CM at this point in time. The team has incrementally improved each year. Too slow, yes, but improved. There are serious questions about recruiting, team management, turnover etc. But, I think a lot of what ant-Mullin people have said is hyperbole. There are warning signs, and if we regress next year, then it is time to start debating, but thus far, slow and steady improvement in terms of talent and results is evident. And, I am a 40 year fan and not related to Mullin.

Agree with the above. Way too early to make a judgment on staff's ability to get it done. Having said that, success next year is critical. Staff needs to keep remaining players and add at least one grad transfer big. If we don't make post season play in 2018-2019, buzz program got from Duke/Nova wins will be gone, recruiting competitors like Willard, Cooley & Hurley will use staff's record against them and consistent success will remain elusive.
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279800]Dinkins , you are among the least liked posters on this or the other site. And , have been for years ! All you got in your game is personal attack and name calling . How many times have you been censured , suspended, admonished for your gutter sniping ? More than anyone else , ever ![/quote]

I'm only "least liked" in your feeble mind. So, stop with your fabrication, in order to feign victim.

The only one's who has something against me are folks like you who deserve it, which is a very, very small fraction of posters. That's because I don't mince my words for turds like you and the likes.

I've never been suspended or banned. Only recently censored because a couple dudes who can't, like you, handle my delivery and has taken their privileges to new heights.

Lastly, I don't give a damn about people like you disliking me. Those types doesn't even matter to me.

Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
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NC Johnnie, I think Hurley will find it tougher than imagined as Coach of Uconn. Their League is not anywhere near the quality of the BE or others .. They should have stayed in the BE instead of thinking the ACC would welcome them . Cooley and Willard have had a good run but, both programs lose a lot from this Season’s teams . Both Schools have shown the importance of having 4 year players as their core . In Business , it’s not a good strategy to openly disrespect your competitors , maybe true in B.B. recruiting as well ?
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279800]Dinkins , you are among the least liked posters on this or the other site. And , have been for years ! All you got in your game is personal attack and name calling . How many times have you been censured , suspended, admonished for your gutter sniping ? More than anyone else , ever ![/quote]

Baghdad Bob strikes again.

How would you know the popularity of all the posters? Have you checked your One?

My favorite is when a poster claims another poster is X and then proceeds to demonstrate he is worse in the same post.
 
Dinkins, your response proves my point , beyond any doubt .. a while ago , i said your comments about Basketball were astute and insightful and you should stick to that and refrain from the personal attacks you seem incapable of limiting . It’s not only me , Dinkins , it’s many posters on here and JJ that find you Offensive . Not a few , Many !
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=279809]Dinkins, your response proves my point , beyond any doubt .. a while ago , i said your comments about Basketball were astute and insightful and you should stick to that and refrain from the personal attacks you seem incapable of limiting . It’s not only me , Dinkins , it’s many posters on here and JJ that find you Offensive . Not a few , Many ![/quote]

Go read fordham's response to you. It's right on point.

Dude, I've been squashing your crap with logic and facts for years. But, astute reasoning and gospel fall on deaf ears when dealing with you.

Then, you proceed with faulty logic, obfuscation, fallacies, hypocrisy, contradictions and fabrication, and want someone to take you seriously. Get for real!

You also called me and several others "dingy" last night without provocation. So, there's more hypocrisy for your silly arse. Then, you absolutely state that I've been banned and suspended from both boards at one point. Both are lies.

You have an issue with me, so that means most of both forums do not like me, either, right? Haha! Critical or logical thinking isn't in your repertoire.

If you don't want stuff thrown your way, then don't come on these forums with foolishness. It's just that simple.
 
Fordham 96, you and a handful of other posters who have hijacked this site and taken it too new lows , obviously support your buddy , Dinkins . Differing opinions about basketball are great . But, with the constant personal attacks and disrespect of another fan’s opinion , enough is enough . Dinkins has a years long history of being obnoxious , here and the Jungle . I respond in kind because I am sick of the nonsense that gets posted continually about this current program of the Men’s B.B. team . Mostly all negative from only a handful of posters . The majority here , often silent , only erupt when the naysayers go off the deep end . And , make no mistake , there are a lot more posters that believe that , than not ! How do I know ? From the Thank you’s and personal messages I get here and JJ . Karma ? Karma indicators are easily hijacked and not a credible statistic .
 
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