2025-26 Rankings

[espken]

It means something for a program that has been mediocre at best for the last 30+ years. For Rick it’s old hat.

 

[hersheypa]

As a Penn State football fan, I can agree with Knight that preseason rankings are basically meaningless.

 

[mjmaherjr]

I kinda think we all agree even though we teeet off about things stupid like preseason rankings that we all agree game 1 its ON !

 

[MainMan]

Truly meaningless until games are played, IMHO.

Yes, I remember 1991-92 all too well.

 

[SJU85]

Good find Dink. So on New Years Eve 1984 Gtown, Johnnies and Cuse were all in the top 5.

And it wound up being another Big East Team that won the National Championship.

 

[L J S A]

It means a lot to start high because last year too many voters were screwing us week to week no matter what we did.

 

[MugCostanza]

KenPom ranks dropped today.

SJU 16th.

Computers are much lower on us than humans are

 

[ADORAZ]

KenPom ranks dropped today.

SJU 16th.

Computers are much lower on us than humans are

Johnnies will face 5 OOC top 25 KenPom teams, 6 if you count Michigan. Maybe 7 depending on Vegas. Meanwhile in the BE only UConn is top 40, though there are 4 BE teams from 40-50.

Obviously these rankings will change once games are played, but for a team with Title aspirations like St. John's it was absolutely necessary to schedule a difficult OOC. Rest of the BE needs to step up, which feels funny to say as a Johnnies fan.

 

[Redenbacher]

It's worth the $5 a month for Evan Miyakawa

Miyakawa's rankings are out: UConn #5, SJU #14.
KenPom has UConn #5, SJU #16.

I sense a trend here.

EvanMiya CBB Analytics

Advanced college basketball analytics used widely by coaches, journalists, and fans.

evanmiya.com

 

[gregbodkin]

Miyakawa's rankings are out: UConn #5, SJU #14.
KenPom has UConn #5, SJU #16.

I sense a trend here.

EvanMiya CBB Analytics

Advanced college basketball analytics used widely by coaches, journalists, and fans.

evanmiya.com

Is this just because we don't have a definitive point guard? WE obviously have more talent than PUKONN.

 

[Redenbacher]

Is this just because we don't have a definitive point guard? WE obviously have more talent than PUKONN.

Disagree that we have more talent than UConn and the lack of PG I'm sure is a factor.

 

[gregbodkin]

Disagree that we have more talent than UConn and the lack of PG I'm sure is a factor.

I just watched a video on another thread and Jon Rothstein said that "pound for pound SJU has more talent than any other team in this sport".

 

[Redenbacher]

I just watched a video on another thread and Jon Rothstein said that "pound for pound SJU has more talent than any other team in this sport".

I agree we have a ton of talent. I also think UConn does too and especially at the PG position, relative to us.

 

[logen]

I just watched a video on another thread and Jon Rothstein said that "pound for pound SJU has more talent than any other team in this sport".

One man’s opinion and teams don’t play pound for pound. The Johnnie’s (and every other team) will get ample opportunity to prove what they are the only place it matters, on the court.

 

[kranmars]

As a Penn State football fan, I can agree with Knight that preseason rankings are basically meaningless.

But you are a hockey school now. Football is just a diversion to kill some time.

Made the Frozen Four last season, and then ponied up for McKenna for a year before he probably goes first overall in the 2026 NHL draft.

 

[rnd 78 cba]

But you are a hockey school now. Football is just a diversion to kill some time.

Made the Frozen Four last season, and then ponied up for McKenna for a year before he probably goes first overall in the 2026 NHL draft.

 

[rnd 78 cba]

Carries as much relevance as their women's volleyball championships and 12 of the last 15 years wrestling national titles.

 

[DaTiger]

As an avid St.John's fan, I checked in on Ken Pom's prediction for my 2025-26 Johnnies and Ken has them losing to Iowa St., Kentucky, and twice to Uconn. Their record for the full season is therefore 22-8 and 14-6? That does not compute. Seems like 26-4 and 18-2 would be a reasonable alternative.

 

[MugCostanza]

As an avid St.John's fan, I checked in on Ken Pom's prediction for my 2025-26 Johnnies and Ken has them losing to Iowa St., Kentucky, and twice to Uconn. Their record for the full season is therefore 22-8 and 14-6? That does not compute. Seems like 26-4 and 18-2 would be a reasonable alternative.

Yes the way KenPom calculates the records is by adding up the % to win each game.

For example if you have a 10 game stretch and KP's algorithm projects you to lose each game by 1 point with a 49% chance to win each game your projected record would actually be 5-5 instead of 0-10

 

[ADORAZ]

Another couple AP ballots:

Coffee with Crawford | My Associated Press preseason men's basketball Top 25 ballot

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – This day has made me nervous, I’m not going to lie. This is my first Associated Press Top 25 ballot, and there is no way to

www.wdrb.com

#4 UConn
#6 St. John's
#23 Creighton

Pretty much identical to what I expect the Poll to look like this afternoon, and the next ballot is better for the BE:

Mark Berman's preseason AP Top 25 men's basketball ballot

Purdue is my preseason No. 1.

roanoke.com

#3 UConn
#5 St. John's
#17 Creighton

Updating our average with the confirmed AP voters this year:
Seth Davis (Hoops HQ): #3
David Borges (Connecticut Insider): #4
Jeff Borzello (ESPN): #5
Jon Rothstein (CBS): #3
Chris Murray (Nevada Sports Net): #10
Eric Crawford (WBRD): #6
Mark Berman (Roanoke Times): #5
Average: #5.14