2024-25 Rankings

weathermannyc said:
The NET is imperfect just like the RPI was before it and certainly the "we'll figure it out ourselves" method used before that. It is just a tool. Nothing more. The flaw is how people decide to use it.

But, it's behavior can be anticipated using two main principles.
1. It values neutral court performance more than home performance and values road performance more than neutral performance.
2. The margin of victory may be capped at 10 (and reports of 1 for OT games), but the offensive and defensive efficiencies are unlimited.

So, based on that, UConn was at Xavier and the final score was close. It wasn't going to move the needle much for either team. Also, these tow teams were not operating in a vacuum. There were other teams just ahead or just behind who also had games. Then, there are the results of teams who you have played that get factored in. It sounds complicated because there are a lot of points of data, but it isn't.

(*** disclaimer: this going by what they have published and we don't know what black box ingredients are part of the formula)
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Makes complete sense. It was a Quad 2 game for both teams and it was close.
 
Sunday's results didn't help for AP purposes, but filling in the final couple results this week (in bold):

#11 Purdue (L Vs Ohio St, W Vs #21 Michigan)
#12 Kansas (W @ TCU, L Vs #7 Houston)
#13 Texas A&M (W @ #16 Ole Miss, L @ Texas)
#14 Mississippi St (L @ #6 Tennessee, W @ South Carolina)
#15 Oregon (W Vs Washington, L @ Minnesota)
#16 Ole Miss (L Vs #13 Texas A&M, L @ #22 Missouri)
#17 Illinois (L Vs Maryland, W Vs Northwestern)
#18 Wisconsin (L @ UCLA, W Vs Nebraska)
#19 UConn (W Vs Butler, L @ Xavier)

Teams that could pass us (but probably won't):
#22 Missouri (L @ Texas, W Vs #16 Ole Miss)

We'll 100% be somewhere in the mid to high teens. I'm still thinking around #16, but I could also see our NET ranking (#26) prevent writers from moving us up higher (despite #11-19 all having lost). Worst case I think would be #18 (passing Ole Miss and UConn).

First AP ballot is also in (UConn writer):

#8 Marquette (he had them #11 last week)
#16 St. John's (#16 last week)

That's it, UConn moved off completely (#20 last week). He already had us higher than most other writers, so it's not too surprising we haven't budged, but it wouldn't surprise me if other writers are also hesitant to move us much higher.

Regardless of whether we're #15 or #18 tomorrow, I think could we get to top 15 next week with another 2-0 week, and then top 10 if we start knocking off Marquette/UConn.
 
ADORAZ said:
Sunday's results didn't help for AP purposes, but filling in the final couple results this week (in bold):

#11 Purdue (L Vs Ohio St, W Vs #21 Michigan)
#12 Kansas (W @ TCU, L Vs #7 Houston)
#13 Texas A&M (W @ #16 Ole Miss, L @ Texas)
#14 Mississippi St (L @ #6 Tennessee, W @ South Carolina)
#15 Oregon (W Vs Washington, L @ Minnesota)
#16 Ole Miss (L Vs #13 Texas A&M, L @ #22 Missouri)
#17 Illinois (L Vs Maryland, W Vs Northwestern)
#18 Wisconsin (L @ UCLA, W Vs Nebraska)
#19 UConn (W Vs Butler, L @ Xavier)

Teams that could pass us (but probably won't):
#22 Missouri (L @ Texas, W Vs #16 Ole Miss)

We'll 100% be somewhere in the mid to high teens. I'm still thinking around #16, but I could also see our NET ranking (#26) prevent writers from moving us up higher (despite #11-19 all having lost). Worst case I think would be #18 (passing Ole Miss and UConn).

First AP ballot is also in (UConn writer):

#8 Marquette (he had them #11 last week)
#16 St. John's (#16 last week)

That's it, UConn moved off completely (#20 last week). He already had us higher than most other writers, so it's not too surprising we haven't budged, but it wouldn't surprise me if other writers are also hesitant to move us much higher.

Regardless of whether we're #15 or #18 tomorrow, I think could we get to top 15 next week with another 2-0 week, and then top 10 if we start knocking off Marquette/UConn.
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Agree highly likely somewhere between 16 and 18. Lets shoot for 17.
 
Let's see where the predictions have us:

CBS Tomorrow's Top 25 Today: #15
www.cbssports.com

Tomorrow's Top 25 Today: Houston, Michigan State on the rise amid perfect starts to conference play

With 14 ranked teams losing at least once this week, the AP Top 25 poll Monday is in line for a major shakeup
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

FanSided Projected AP Top 25: #12
fansided.com

Men’s college basketball rankings: Projected AP Top 25 after Houston-Kansas thriller

After a very dramatic Week 11 where 19 ranked teams lost, things were a bit calmer in the college basketball world in Week 12. The Top 5 teams all managed to ha
fansided.com fansided.com

On3 Prediciting the AP Top 25: #15
www.on3.com

College Basketball Rankings: Predicting the AP Poll Top 25 after another week filled with upsets

Check out the latest AP Poll Top 25 predictions after another big week across college basketball changes the outlook.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

Overall a bit higher than most on this board are predicting (I'll still say #16 plus or minus a spot). I absolutely agree that if we go 4-0 the next couple weeks (includes beating Marquette and UConn) that we'd be top 10. Will be tough to do obviously, but absolutely no question that we'd be Top 10 at that point. We may even start getting close to the Top 10 with another 2-0 week this week.
 
ADORAZ said:
Let's see where the predictions have us:

CBS Tomorrow's Top 25 Today: #15
www.cbssports.com

Tomorrow's Top 25 Today: Houston, Michigan State on the rise amid perfect starts to conference play

With 14 ranked teams losing at least once this week, the AP Top 25 poll Monday is in line for a major shakeup
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

FanSided Projected AP Top 25: #12
fansided.com

Men’s college basketball rankings: Projected AP Top 25 after Houston-Kansas thriller

After a very dramatic Week 11 where 19 ranked teams lost, things were a bit calmer in the college basketball world in Week 12. The Top 5 teams all managed to ha
fansided.com fansided.com

On3 Prediciting the AP Top 25: #15
www.on3.com

College Basketball Rankings: Predicting the AP Poll Top 25 after another week filled with upsets

Check out the latest AP Poll Top 25 predictions after another big week across college basketball changes the outlook.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

Overall a bit higher than most on this board are predicting (I'll still say #16 plus or minus a spot). I absolutely agree that if we go 4-0 the next couple weeks (includes beating Marquette and UConn) that we'd be top 10. Will be tough to do obviously, but absolutely no question that we'd be Top 10 at that point. We may even start getting close to the Top 10 with another 2-0 week this week.
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We go 4-0 - were top 5
 
Second AP ballot posted (Louisville):

www.wdrb.com

BOZICH | My weekly AP Top 25 men's college basketball poll ballot

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) — We’re approaching the mid-way point of the conference season — and we’re seeing separation in several power conferences.
www.wdrb.com www.wdrb.com

#8 Marquette
#9 St. John's

No UConn, but New Mexico at #25 which is nice to see. Last week he had us at #19 and no writer had us higher than #15.

This is also the first time any writer has voted us top 10 during the past decade. Top 15 may be within reach today.
 
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