17 wins over/under?

i am very surprised with how many of you think we win 15 or less but to each his own....we all have our opinions. and I guess maybe you are just setting yourself up for a surprise success instead of failure??...I just find it insulting ( not sure that's really the word im looking for) when those that say we are gonna win more seem to get jumped on by those that say we wont.......that's just your opinion....we have ours......time will tell who is in the correct camp.........in the end we are all rooting for these guys to succeed......im ready for some beers with some of you guys at some games this year.....cant wait for the season to start!!!!!!!

Sorry Eric but I find the discussion very civil. I don't share your sentiments. However , while we have a deep and talented team the teams that are very successful have great talent , or a very experienced team or great coaching or a combination of the foregoing. We don't have great talent , we don't have a very experienced team and no one will say at this point in time we have great coaching. We had 8 wins , lost quite a few players but got better and more talent.
If we get 15 wins it will be a good sign. Anything more would be great.

I'm not saying its not civil....All I'm saying is it seems every time one of us more optimistic fans says we potentially could be dancing we are always rebuffed by the others.... just because you all feel 13- 15 wins could be max potential doesn't mean its true and will happen and what we should expect and be happy with.... but its stated as if it is fact... but its just your opinions.... I don't discredit those posts.... you all are entitled to your opinions as are the more optimistic people are....I just differ in my optimism for the new talent along with the expected improvement in our core players from last year...... no real ball handler last year cost of 4-5 wins and there is your 13 wins for last year alone....I'm very optimistic with our potential and well rounded team this year

Being optimistic is great. But some on here then start bitching and pointing fingers once their unrealistic goals are not met. Might get better players than we have had but the entire process to become good will take time. I for one don't care about any number as long as Mullin looks more comfortable. That is really the big thing for me this season. 14, 15, 16 or 17 wins should not define this season.

Although I really think we have the potential to do good things this year (ncaa's?..but NIT more reasonable to attain) I would not be bitching if we only win 15-17 and play a fun competitive season..... if this team wins 13-14 or less then that would be a disappointment in my eyes.....im not saying we will be winning over 20 games...but barring injuries and other stuff we have the potential to surprise many in the country including our own fans.....we have the potential to be a great story this season
 
We won 8 games last year but we played some great teams very hard last year like Nova, X and Seton Hall. We also beat a final four team. I'll consider 16 wins a successful season. We're going to play everybody hard this year. That's the culture being built here, play with effort and you'll see results.
 
Yeah they have alot of talent coming in, but they'll be 1st year ncaa players.
I know Lovett practiced last year, but that's not the same as in game experience.

They'll be 1st and 2nd year player, very young.
I'm going with 15wins. 17 would be butters.

I'm next year is their breakout year. 22+ wins. Yeah I know, I'm way ahead of myself.

This year will be a much more fun year, I just don't want to expect to much after last years 8 wins season.

We could still get 15 wins. Serve at home, and steal one road game.
 
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